THE Pope Thread (merged)

by **lorenzo** » Wed 20 Apr 2005, 12:43:08

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ebyss', '(')a) Stop promoting us as Baby Machines

by **threadbear** » Wed 20 Apr 2005, 12:45:41

Not only does the church champion women's rights, it has a largely pedophile clergy that provides a first rate, hands on sex education to minors. It has been a haven for pedophiles when everyone else turned their backs on them. Very compassionate.

by **khebab** » Wed 20 Apr 2005, 12:47:05

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('lorenzo', 'B')ut the line only refers to the Jesuit's adagium: "plus est en vous" (there's more in you than you think). When one says "all free people are Catholics and only Catholics are free" it basically means that in every person hides a Catholic waiting to get out. It's just a matter of gently pulling. Pope Benedict XVI will do just that.

by **khebab** » Wed 20 Apr 2005, 12:48:30

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('threadbear', 'N')ot only does the church champion women's rights, it has a largely pedophile clergy that provides a first rate, hands on sex education to minors. It has been a haven for pedophiles when everyone else turned their backs on them. Very compassionate.

by **lorenzo** » Wed 20 Apr 2005, 12:55:23

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('khebab', '
')You're right, notice how Lorenzo avoid to talk about this very sensitive subject!

by **khebab** » Wed 20 Apr 2005, 13:03:46

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('lorenzo', '
')The Catholic Church is the only institution on the planet that defends safe sex. It is also the only one on the planet whose safe-sex program works 100% all of the time.

by **khebab** » Wed 20 Apr 2005, 13:15:54

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('lorenzo', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('khebab', '
')You're right, notice how Lorenzo avoid to talk about this very sensitive subject!

by **Tonttoro** » Wed 20 Apr 2005, 13:21:15

Oh the cognitive dissonance.

Now we all know there are some bad things, and then there are some good things. However the badness or goodness of a thing is not tied to any religious dogma. It is somewhat tied to circumstances and more tied to things it causes between you and others. However as people are tied to their instincts and behaviour, discounting the natural behaviour of people is clearly a stupid thing to do. Of course it is so very nice to tell people what they should do, unfortunately many on't do what they should. Of course people should be adviced to do the right thing, but if the right thing is something most people don't do preaching it is more akin to folly.

Actually there are many bad things waiting to happen and actually happening globally:

- Overpopulation
- Climate change
- Overuse of natural resources (Peak Oil, Loss of arable land, etc.)
- Economic problems

None of these are either problems of faith, or solved with any religious dogma. To claim that Catholicism is the answer is actually stupid.

Now I know I shouldn't participate to a religious debate, because nothing good usually comes out of it.

by **Aaron** » Wed 20 Apr 2005, 13:46:42

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('lorenzo', 'B')ut the line only refers to the Jesuit's adagium: "plus est en vous" (there's more in you than you think). When one says "all free people are Catholics and only Catholics are free" it basically means that in every person hides a Catholic waiting to get out. It's just a matter of gently pulling. Pope Benedict XVI will do just that.

by **DomusAlbion** » Wed 20 Apr 2005, 14:32:00

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('kochevnik', ' ')I think Rome will get nuked, but I am not sure that there will be a concrete reason why

by **BiGG** » Wed 20 Apr 2005, 14:46:38

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('kochevnik', 'T')he only thing that is absurd, bigg is your inability to read ... neither of your url's do ANYTHING to disprove the prophecy.

by **BiGG** » Wed 20 Apr 2005, 15:10:43

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('DomusAlbion', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('kochevnik', ' ')I think Rome will get nuked, but I am not sure that there will be a concrete reason why

by **lorenzo** » Wed 20 Apr 2005, 15:50:07

Wasn't Kubrick raised in a very disciplined Jesuit college?

It's interesting that you refer to a war movie. As you may know, the Jesuits are the Army of Christ. War metaphors are in order here.

by **Phil** » Wed 20 Apr 2005, 16:44:08

Anyone who believes that a human being in the past bore "supernatural" ability to predict future events is a contemptible fool.

I haven't read this thread, because I find it ridiculous. But is it possible that whoever chose this new pope did so to seemingly fulfill this so-called prophecy?

by **threadbear** » Wed 20 Apr 2005, 16:45:46

Lorenzo:

To suggest that we open another thread about "pedophilia in society", minimizes the very specific problem that the Roman Catholic church has with it. This one statement of your's alone does much to illuminate your selective vision of the "moral authority" of the church. You are probably representative of many of the blinkered adherants who catch a buzz off gargoyle gazing at their local cathedral, and therefore feel compelled to support the ghouls inside, who are running the show. Can't you find a more decent bunch to get behind? Woops, wrong phrase.

Their actions and covert mis-handling of this issue, sinks much lower than mere criminality. It is a crime not just against human rights and decency, but against the human spirit and soul. It has, at the very least, turned people away from God in droves. The cover-ups have embittered others and driven countless others, who were directly affected, to suicide.

Rather than celebrate this "church", it should be stripped of all of it's assets and it's senior members subject to a Nuremburg style crimes against humanity tribunal.

By statistical odds the new pope would never have reached his position, unimpeded, if he wasn't directly or indirectly involved
in the cover-up of the grotesque. And yet we celebrate this dude. Is the whole world completely crazy?

Ditch consumerism, but don't turn to this sordid pack of archetype manipulating, masters of medievil special effects.

by **Barbara** » Wed 20 Apr 2005, 17:26:16

Why here?
Because I'm the one and only forum member living in Rome, of course! :lol:

Ask away!

PS About that Malachy prophecy, I'm sorry to disappoint you but I'm afraid it's true. The "gloria olivae" means "glory of the olive tree", which is the symbol of Saint Benedict. But also: Benedict 16th was born on April 16, and guess who is the saint of that day? Good guess: saint Benedict.
Again, tha last Pope Benedict, Benedict the 15th, is known as "The peace Pope", because he was the first Pope in history to speak loudly against war (WWI).

I think there's enough for me to dig that bunker...

by **Ludi** » Wed 20 Apr 2005, 17:34:49

Will the Pope officially apologise for being the only Pope who was in the Hitler Youth?

Will he formally revoke the blanket curse put on all unbelievers at the Council of Trent?

by **Phil** » Wed 20 Apr 2005, 17:44:05

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Barbara', 'P')S About that Malachy prophecy, I'm sorry to disappoint you but I'm afraid it's true. The "gloria olivae" means "glory of the olive tree", which is the symbol of Saint Benedict. But also: Benedict 16th was born on April 16, and guess who is the saint of that day? Good guess: saint Benedict.
Again, tha last Pope Benedict, Benedict the 15th, is known as "The peace Pope", because he was the first Pope in history to speak loudly against war (WWI).

by **Barbara** » Wed 20 Apr 2005, 17:47:13

You don't obviously know how to recognize ironic (and informative) posts.

An idiot is your sister, dear Phil. And you too, of course.

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