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Re: Congressional Vote: 422-1

Postby rangerone314 » Wed 13 May 2009, 08:04:56

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('cbxer55', 'I') guarantee if he runs again, I am going to look at him a lot closer than I have in the past. Someday we gotta get rid of this fucked up two party system of tweedle-dee / tweedle-dum. Probably not in my lifetime, but the bums running the republicrats are looking more and more to be two peas in a pod.Image


Don't you mean tweedle-dumb and tweedle-just-as-dumb?
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Re: Congressional Vote: 422-1

Postby rangerone314 » Wed 13 May 2009, 08:06:56

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Keith_McClary', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('cbxer55', 'I') guarantee if he runs again, I am going to look at him a lot closer than I have in the past. Someday we gotta get rid of this fucked up two party system of tweedle-dee / tweedle-dum. Probably not in my lifetime, but the bums running the republicrats are looking more and more to be two peas in a pod.Image

I read an article about how americans had a low opinion of congress but a high opinion of their local congresscritter.

How to explain that? Americans were smart people 200 years ago but have become Homer Simps? I can't put all the blame on Faux News.


Because their Congressmen are responsible for getting some of the taxpayer's money back to the locals so it can be wasted on needless earmarked projects that create jobs (and dependency on gov & Fed money)
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Re: Congressional Vote: 422-1

Postby Tyler_JC » Wed 13 May 2009, 12:38:52

Why should a golfer be getting a free medal from Congress?

I mean, I like Mr. Palmer but I don't think taxpayer money should be redirected to him.

On the macro level it doesn't matter ($30,000 is a rounding error in the Congressional printer ink budget) but I can fully understand Congressman Paul's decision to vote against this kind of government waste.
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Re: Congressional Vote: 422-1

Postby coyote » Wed 13 May 2009, 17:25:12

How do they pick and choose? I mean, how did golf get chosen over some other activity? Are there lobbyists for awards-bestowing for certain industries? :roll:

I think we should give a $30,000 medal to Frank Frazetta for outstanding contributions to the profession of illustration. I mean, he's pretty good, right? He's already rich, but hey, why not?

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Re: Congressional Vote: 422-1

Postby Ludi » Wed 13 May 2009, 17:36:18

Your tax dollars at work. [smilie=icon_puke_l.gif]
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Re: Congressional Vote: 422-1

Postby jasonraymondson » Wed 13 May 2009, 21:10:11

I want ron paul as president as much as the next guy.. but congress would block his every move. He would never get anything done. It would make a lame duck presidency look all "accomplishing and stuff"
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Re: Congressional Vote: 422-1

Postby dinopello » Wed 13 May 2009, 21:38:24

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jasonraymondson', 'I') want ron paul as president as much as the next guy.. but congress would block his every move. He would never get anything done. It would make a lame duck presidency look all "accomplishing and stuff"


He probably doesn't want to "get anything done" in the conventional sense. Ron Paul would do at least two things that were within his power.

1) He would bring all the troops home from all over the world.
2) He would veto any and every bill unless it repealed a law

I don't think the congress could do much to stop 1). If they wanted to get any bill passed it would have to be agreed upon by a veto-proof majority. Regardless of the make-up of congress, I believe they would reach those majorities. It would be interesting.
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Lawmakers Bill Taxpayers For TVs, Cameras, Lexus

Postby mattduke » Sun 31 May 2009, 10:44:14

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'F')lorida Rep. Alcee Hastings spent $24,730 in taxpayer money last year to lease a 2008 luxury Lexus hybrid sedan. Ohio Rep. Michael Turner expensed a $1,435 digital camera. Eni Faleomavaega, the House delegate from American Samoa, bought two 46-inch Sony TVs.

The expenditures were legal, properly accounted for and drawn from allowances the U.S. government grants to lawmakers. Equipment purchased with office expense accounts must be returned to the House or the federal General Services Administration when a lawmaker leaves office.

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House Vote 405-1

Postby mattduke » Sun 21 Jun 2009, 14:55:27

The only adult in the house votes to mind our own business.

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Re: House Vote 405-1

Postby smallpoxgirl » Sun 21 Jun 2009, 15:04:17

Dumb move. Now Ahmadinejad will smear the protesters as being tools of the Americans.
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Re: House Vote 405-1

Postby JPL » Sun 21 Jun 2009, 17:58:12

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jasonraymondson', 'W')hy do we give a rat's ass about Iranian people. Fuck them in their rusty assholes


When last I read the papers, Iran was just about the only vaguely-functioning democracy in the region. (Iraq & Afghanistan don't count IMHO).

They need our (i.e Western) help, support & constructive input at this difficult monent, not crowing over their mis-fortunes. Iran is a far more progressive State than KSA, for one example ( there are plenty of others).

I really hope things work out for Iran - they are a remarkable people & may yet surprise us all. (At least I hope so.)

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Re: House Vote 405-1

Postby Aaron » Sun 21 Jun 2009, 18:44:36

1. Saudi Arabia 264.3
2. Canada 178.8
3. Iran 132.5
4. Iraq 115.0
5. Kuwait 101.5
6. United Arab Emirates 97.8
7. Venezuela 79.7
8. Russia 60.0
9. Libya 39.1
10. Nigeria 35.9
11. United States 21.4
12. China 18.3
13. Qatar 15.2
14. Mexico 12.9
15. Algeria 11.4
16. Brazil 11.2
17. Kazakhstan 9.0
18. Norway 7.7
19. Azerbaijan 7.0
20. India 5.8

Top 20 countries 1224.5 (95%)
Rest of world 68.1 (5%)
World total 1,292.6
The problem is, of course, that not only is economics bankrupt, but it has always been nothing more than politics in disguise... economics is a form of brain damage.

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Re: House Vote 405-1

Postby Jack » Sun 21 Jun 2009, 19:15:36

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jasonraymondson', 'W')hy do we give a rat's ass about Iranian people. Fuck them in their rusty assholes


1) Because its fun to watch them devolve into civil war.

2) Because civil war over there makes oil go up. :twisted:

Caring does not have to be positive. Schadenfreude is a beautiful thing. 8)
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Re: House Vote 405-1

Postby dukey » Sun 21 Jun 2009, 19:19:50

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jasonraymondson', 'W')hy do we give a rat's ass about Iranian people. Fuck them in their rusty assholes


because they have lots of oil
when they privatised their oil fields in the 50's we had to over throw their democratic government to install some puppets

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 9947#6m36s
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Re: House Vote 405-1

Postby mos6507 » Sun 21 Jun 2009, 20:17:11

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('JPL', '
')When last I read the papers, Iran was just about the only vaguely-functioning democracy in the region. (Iraq & Afghanistan don't count IMHO).


Turkey is probably the least dysfunctional muslim country.

I also think the constant fellating of the Iranian people, the references to their rich history, etc... is a little, how shall I say it, overcompensating? No people deserves to be raised up to Godhood like that, especially one that is funding hezbollah, holocaust denial conventions, and likely to touch off WWIII to get the grand Imam's attention. It's transparent for the "hey man, don't call me racist" mindgame that it is.
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Re: House Vote 405-1

Postby Jotapay » Sun 21 Jun 2009, 22:09:33

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jasonraymondson', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dukey', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jasonraymondson', 'W')hy do we give a rat's ass about Iranian people. Fuck them in their rusty assholes


because they have lots of oil
when they privatised their oil fields in the 50's we had to over throw their democratic government to install some puppets

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 9947#6m36s


I am not sure how many times I have stressed this, but please do not answer my questions with video's of Alex Jones.. It undermines this website, and it makes my eyes and ears bleed.


But his answer was actually factually correct. The content is accurate. You are cutting off your nose to spite your face. Arrogant and ignorant is no way to go through life, son.
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Re: House Vote 405-1

Postby rangerone314 » Mon 22 Jun 2009, 08:41:12

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('JPL', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jasonraymondson', 'W')hy do we give a rat's ass about Iranian people. Fuck them in their rusty assholes


When last I read the papers, Iran was just about the only vaguely-functioning democracy in the region. (Iraq & Afghanistan don't count IMHO).

They need our (i.e Western) help, support & constructive input at this difficult monent, not crowing over their mis-fortunes. Iran is a far more progressive State than KSA, for one example ( there are plenty of others).

I really hope things work out for Iran - they are a remarkable people & may yet surprise us all. (At least I hope so.)

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Iran is about as democratic as a high school, and their elections are about as important as the elections for class president. The real power in the high school is the Principal, and in Iran the real power is the Supreme Leader.

Iran's government will fall, but not this year and only because Iran will be reduced to a charred wasteland after the great powers implement a "Last Man Standing" strategy to deal with Peak Oil.
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Re: House Vote 405-1

Postby Dreamtwister » Mon 22 Jun 2009, 11:33:21

LOL There's no revolution. Think the 1972 elections. Ahmadinejad is Iran's Nixon, and the "protestors" are the hippies. The silent majority is staying out of the media and hoping for another Kent State.
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Re: House Vote 405-1

Postby ForlornHope » Mon 22 Jun 2009, 17:31:06

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Aaron', '1'). Saudi Arabia 264.3
2. Canada 178.8
3. Iran 132.5
4. Iraq 115.0
5. Kuwait 101.5
6. United Arab Emirates 97.8
7. Venezuela 79.7
8. Russia 60.0
9. Libya 39.1
10. Nigeria 35.9
11. United States 21.4
12. China 18.3
13. Qatar 15.2
14. Mexico 12.9
15. Algeria 11.4
16. Brazil 11.2
17. Kazakhstan 9.0
18. Norway 7.7
19. Azerbaijan 7.0
20. India 5.8

Top 20 countries 1224.5 (95%)
Rest of world 68.1 (5%)
World total 1,292.6


Hey wait a minute! I'm from Canada, and I'm not so sure I'm liking the neighbors on that chart we're being lumped with. 8O ...well maybe Norway. :roll:
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Senate Votes To Expand Size Of Army

Postby mattduke » Thu 23 Jul 2009, 12:40:43

The Senators believe that the Republic's army is not large enough. Listen closely and you can hear the recruiters ramping up their sloganeering at high schools across the country.

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