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Should Uncle Sam Actively Seek Out & Deport Illegals?

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Re: Uncle Sam says

Postby vision-master » Thu 30 Apr 2009, 12:40:56

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('eastbay', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ibon', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Aaron', '
')It's a compelling argument... and one that guarantees not only sustained levels of immigration, but an order of magnitude increase across the board.



It is not only the replacement levels of the aged but also the skill level of the work required when we are forced into localization of our economies. If you go to any developing country you will see thousands of cottage industries in any large town; carpenters, blacksmiths, mechanics, shops rebuilding alternators, engines, farmers, potters, tailors, bricklayers, appliance repair, computer repair, air conditioning repair, recycling, etc. etc.

In the future planning forums we discuss the importance of the relocalization of our regional economies in a post peak oil world and the need to make things again in the US.

Well, who has the skill level required to do this. A third generation suburbanite working in the service consumer economy or a migrant Mexican?

I have been saying this for years......if it comes down to a lifeboat strategy I want to have a lot of people of color in my lifeboat......not just a bunch of socially dysfunctional whining caucasians!

Who is really prepared to do the heavy lifting?


Wow, this may be the most racist thing I've read here. Right to the top. Nothing personal, mind you, but I'm sure we'll be reading and hearing more and more such racist nonsense as the economy deteriorates and the process of scapegoating accelerates.

It's all part of the process. Listen to the words: Whites are too lazy. Mexicans are too lazy. Blacks are too lazy. It's going to be a rough ride, that's for sure.


How about Jews and Asians? :lol:
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Re: Uncle Sam says

Postby eastbay » Thu 30 Apr 2009, 13:19:13

VM, I'm fully expecting similar stereotypical racist references about them too. And I'm not just talking about clever jokes, which we all from time to time share.
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Re: Uncle Sam says

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Re: Uncle Sam says

Postby flapjax » Thu 30 Apr 2009, 13:39:10

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Roy', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')his is why I don't like some white Americans. "I've got to keep what I have even if it means killing my neighbor. They are not white anyway so who give a shit. What I have is rightfully mine somehow. It is too bad for you to have been born a Mexican. I'll kill ya if you come on my greener lawn."



Perhaps you should educate yourself on all sides of this issue rather than passing judgment on a whole group of people with whom you apparently have little contact and of whom you posses little first hand knowledge.

I don't give a shit if you like the truth or not. It does not change the fact that it is true.

Just like PO baby. It ain't all rainbows and lollipops.


So you have no problem with passing judgment on a whole group of people - the group of people of me. I clearly stated "some white Americans", like those here who just advocated gunning down Mexicans who attempt to cross the boarder. Being white myself makes me completely capable, thank you, of sometimes having a bit of contact with that part of myself. You on the other hand must be spewing with such great whiteness to defend gunning down Mexicans as only a white American could. Show me the Mexican who is an advocate for such extreme action and I'll show you my surprise. There is racism here, Sir. The sun must reflecting off your shiny skin so much it has made you blind, "baby".
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Re: Uncle Sam says

Postby Ayoob » Thu 30 Apr 2009, 13:57:42

Or maybe the Americans who are left can export the baby boomers to someplace where they can be made to be useful.
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Re: Uncle Sam says

Postby Ludi » Thu 30 Apr 2009, 14:01:52

So far no Mexicans streaming across my lawn. I did see my Latina neighbor at the local eatery last night, though. Scary! 8O
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Re: Uncle Sam says

Postby Ibon » Thu 30 Apr 2009, 15:10:40

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('eastbay', '
')Wow, this may be the most racist thing I've read here. Right to the top. Nothing personal, mind you, but I'm sure we'll be reading and hearing more and more such racist nonsense as the economy deteriorates and the process of scapegoating accelerates.

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Read my post again. I said a lifeboat I would be a mamber of would not JUST have a bunch of whining causaisions and would have people of color. Now you tell me what is racist about such a diverse group of people? . I didn't say wouldn't have caucasions. I said wouldn't have JUST caucasions. And if are looking at the demographics here on the USA of the past 50 years of the race with the most self entitlement than this is just plain and simple white people. On the other hand because I have spent so much time in developing countries when I come back to the USA I do see that self entitlement knows no boundaries and is prevalent in this country regardless of race, religion or creed. A white Bosnian farmer probably has less of a sense of self entitlement than the average African American citizen.

In your concern about racism if we made a poll here on Peakoil.com and asked members what race they belonged to how many of these whining idealistic doomsday, adolescent, frightened posters do you think would be people of color??
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Re: Uncle Sam says

Postby Ibon » Thu 30 Apr 2009, 15:15:47

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Shannymara', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', 'S')o far no Mexicans streaming across my lawn. I did see my Latina neighbor at the local eatery last night, though. Scary! 8O

They have "invaded" my family by breeding with us. :shock: Some of my closest relatives are brown.


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Re: Uncle Sam says

Postby Ludi » Thu 30 Apr 2009, 15:27:55

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ibon', '
')They are my family.



OMG!!!!! 8O 8O 8O 8O

They've taken you over completely!

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Re: Uncle Sam says

Postby Ibon » Thu 30 Apr 2009, 15:35:01

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ibon', '
')They are my family.



OMG!!!!! 8O 8O 8O 8O

They've taken you over completely!

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Re: Uncle Sam says

Postby Pretorian » Thu 30 Apr 2009, 16:14:12

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('flapjax', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Roy', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')his is why I don't like some white Americans. "I've got to keep what I have even if it means killing my neighbor. They are not white anyway so who give a shit. What I have is rightfully mine somehow. It is too bad for you to have been born a Mexican. I'll kill ya if you come on my greener lawn."



Perhaps you should educate yourself on all sides of this issue rather than passing judgment on a whole group of people with whom you apparently have little contact and of whom you posses little first hand knowledge.

I don't give a shit if you like the truth or not. It does not change the fact that it is true.

Just like PO baby. It ain't all rainbows and lollipops.


So you have no problem with passing judgment on a whole group of people - the group of people of me. I clearly stated "some white Americans", like those here who just advocated gunning down Mexicans who attempt to cross the boarder. Being white myself makes me completely capable, thank you, of sometimes having a bit of contact with that part of myself. You on the other hand must be spewing with such great whiteness to defend gunning down Mexicans as only a white American could. Show me the Mexican who is an advocate for such extreme action and I'll show you my surprise. There is racism here, Sir. The sun must reflecting off your shiny skin so much it has made you blind, "baby".



Flapjax, you were brown a few posts earlier. What happened? Desease, surgery, some psychiatric issues?
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Re: Uncle Sam says

Postby Ludi » Thu 30 Apr 2009, 16:18:21

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ibon', '
')Hasta la pinche madre..


I hope you're not taking me seriously!
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Re: Uncle Sam says

Postby flapjax » Thu 30 Apr 2009, 16:26:54

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pretorian', '
')Flapjax, you were brown a few posts earlier. What happened? Desease, surgery, some psychiatric issues?


I'm both. White father, Thai mother. A product of the vietnam war. My white grandmother had nothing to do with me because I am not pure. You would agree with her most likely. Strange how you picked up on that. :lol:
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Re: Uncle Sam says

Postby Pretorian » Thu 30 Apr 2009, 17:33:22

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('flapjax', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pretorian', '
')Flapjax, you were brown a few posts earlier. What happened? Desease, surgery, some psychiatric issues?


I'm both. White father, Thai mother. A product of the vietnam war. My white grandmother had nothing to do with me because I am not pure. You would agree with her most likely. Strange how you picked up on that. :lol:



You are both? how about a neither, flapjax? You openly hate whites, you are a mongrel who is advocating for more mongrels around him-- to be a lesser "white crow'' of course-- and yet you declare yourself white when its convinient to you?
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Re: Uncle Sam says

Postby Ibon » Thu 30 Apr 2009, 17:47:31

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ibon', '
')Hasta la pinche madre..


I hope you're not taking me seriously!


Ludi,,,,I loved your post.....and you remain one of my favorite posters here!
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Re: Uncle Sam says

Postby Ludi » Thu 30 Apr 2009, 17:49:36

*Whew* :oops:
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Re: Uncle Sam says

Postby flapjax » Thu 30 Apr 2009, 18:11:42

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pretorian', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('flapjax', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pretorian', '
')Flapjax, you were brown a few posts earlier. What happened? Desease, surgery, some psychiatric issues?


I'm both. White father, Thai mother. A product of the vietnam war. My white grandmother had nothing to do with me because I am not pure. You would agree with her most likely. Strange how you picked up on that. :lol:



You are both? how about a neither, flapjax? You openly hate whites, you are a mongrel who is advocating for more mongrels around him-- to be a lesser "white crow'' of course-- and yet you declare yourself white when its convinient to you?


Ah, I'm so glad you cleared that up for me. For a second there I thought I was something I'm not. It only took talking to you after 37 years of confusion. Thanks for that.

I don't hate whites at all. I don't put us all together in piles; whites over here, blacks over there, those in between somewhere in the middle. That would be the job of someone with your small intelect to consume your time with. I have better things to do than keep track of race, but you seem to have an apparent skill for it.

Why do the mods allow this guy to post? Has Peak Oil become a whites only exclusive? For the love of God, get this guy out of here.
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Re: Uncle Sam says

Postby Ludi » Thu 30 Apr 2009, 20:50:10

Now, now. This site seems to support freedom of speech, even very offensive speech. Let's keep it that way. You can always enjoy the ignore ("foe") feature.
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Re: Uncle Sam says

Postby dinopello » Thu 30 Apr 2009, 20:54:05

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', 'N')ow, now. This site seems to support freedom of speech, even very offensive speech. Let's keep it that way. You can always enjoy the ignore ("foe") feature.


Is that what "foe" does, put people on ignore ? What happened to keep your friends close and your enemies closer ? I agree though, it is more helpful to hear what people you disagree with say. It can be kind of boring of they say the same thing over and over though.
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Re: Uncle Sam says

Postby eastbay » Thu 30 Apr 2009, 22:05:24

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ibon', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('eastbay', '
')Wow, this may be the most racist thing I've read here. Right to the top. Nothing personal, mind you, but I'm sure we'll be reading and hearing more and more such racist nonsense as the economy deteriorates and the process of scapegoating accelerates.

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Read my post again. I said a lifeboat I would be a mamber of would not JUST have a bunch of whining causaisions and would have people of color. Now you tell me what is racist about such a diverse group of people? . I didn't say wouldn't have caucasions. I said wouldn't have JUST caucasions. And if are looking at the demographics here on the USA of the past 50 years of the race with the most self entitlement than this is just plain and simple white people. On the other hand because I have spent so much time in developing countries when I come back to the USA I do see that self entitlement knows no boundaries and is prevalent in this country regardless of race, religion or creed. A white Bosnian farmer probably has less of a sense of self entitlement than the average African American citizen.

In your concern about racism if we made a poll here on Peakoil.com and asked members what race they belonged to how many of these whining idealistic doomsday, adolescent, frightened posters do you think would be people of color??



Just did. Same conclusion.

You interestingly selected only Whites as (fill in derogatory descriptors). Why not suggest you wouldn't want to be in a lifeboat with lazy Blacks, or lazy Jews, or lazy Mexicans, in each race we find plenty of of lazy people. If you had balanced it by stating you wouldn't want to be in a lifeboat with anyone regardless of race if they're lazy.... etc..., then it would have been non-racist.

Why select out only lazy Whites? This makes no sense and is patently racist. But it's cool ... we all have some racism in us. Anyone stating otherwise about themselves is either delusional or lying.

Regarding this board, I bet it's about the same percentage as people of non-color (wow, what a strange anachronistic categorization), such as some Asians, or some Whites, or some Mexicans and other Latin Americans, because we here at po.com mostly come from a demographic group consisting of concerned people... mostly White, of course, but non-Whites here are similarly concerned about The Great Disaster, which is why they're here. Which is why I'm here. We're here because we want to understand and prepare for this Great Disaster. Fantasizing about who would be or who would not be useful in a lifeboat based on race is silly, pointless, and serves only to fan the flames of racism. And we already have enough of that.

btw, it's 'Caucasians'. :)
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