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Should Uncle Sam Actively Seek Out & Deport Illegals?

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Re: Uncle Sam says

Unread postby Pretorian » Wed 02 Sep 2009, 14:05:10

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('flapjax', ' ')You've been Expletive deleted. on America's plate all this time, and you complain about others? You are a hypocritical bastard.

Actually, it is your hope and expression , that non-white immigrants will be Expletive deleted. on the plates of white Americans. I've never subscribed to it.$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('flapjax', ' ') No I didn't know, Pretorian - the way you speak as if somehow you are entitled to an anti immigration opinion had me guessing otherwise.
good-- I'm glad I wasnt wrong when estimating your mental abilities.$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('flapjax', ' ') Leave the immigration debate to those who are of the USA. LMAO :-D

You mean to that shipped in Ad hom attack deleted. No.. thank you.
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Re: Uncle Sam says

Unread postby flapjax » Wed 02 Sep 2009, 15:14:52

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pretorian', 'A')ctually, it is your hope and expression , that non-white immigrants will be Expletive deleted. on the plates of white Americans. I've never subscribed to it.
You such an absolute Adult content deleted. . I don't hope any of that. Illegal immigrants, or immigrants like yourself Expletive deleted. the American plate. It is not just limited to whites, Ad hom deleted. . You just want to pick and choose who should come in based on ethnicity and use the legality of the immigrant as an excuse.$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pretorian', 'g')ood-- I'm glad I wasnt wrong when estimating your mental abilities.
I'm just not that interested in you, Pretorian and you lack the tools to measure ANYONE's mental capacity.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pretorian', 'Y')ou mean to that shipped in Ad hom attack deleted. No.. thank you.
That "shipped in prostitue" works at the VA helping our troops rehab.

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Re: Uncle Sam says

Unread postby Pretorian » Wed 02 Sep 2009, 17:17:22

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('flapjax', 'Y')ou such an absolute Adult content deleted. . I don't hope any of that. Illegal immigrants, or immigrants like yourself Expletive deleted. the American plate.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('flapjax', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('holmes', 'M')ost Excellent. You proved my point exactly with your response. Thank you and have a great day! :-)

Have you ever had a white man ask you where you where you were born as if it was not your country; the country you were born in? I spitefully welcome every Mexican to come join thier illegal brothers here stateside just so they can take a big Expletive deleted. on your dinner plate. Of course, then you might ask for seconds.
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Re: Uncle Sam says

Unread postby Pretorian » Wed 02 Sep 2009, 17:24:55

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Last edited by Ferretlover on Mon 14 Sep 2009, 22:22:11, edited 2 times in total.
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Re: Uncle Sam says

Unread postby flapjax » Wed 02 Sep 2009, 17:52:03

Off topic text deleted.-FL
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Re: Uncle Sam says

Unread postby Aaron » Thu 03 Sep 2009, 09:29:04

Please refer to our Code of Conduct found in the menu on the left for posting requirements.

I will enforce it without further notice.

And so you know... I do see where everybody is posting from even if you think otherwise, so please don't be cute about this even if you are angry.

Thanks guys...
The problem is, of course, that not only is economics bankrupt, but it has always been nothing more than politics in disguise... economics is a form of brain damage.

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Re: Uncle Sam says

Unread postby flapjax » Thu 03 Sep 2009, 11:56:01

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Aaron', 'P')lease refer to our Code of Conduct found in the menu on the left for posting requirements.

I will enforce it without further notice.

And so you know... I do see where everybody is posting from even if you think otherwise, so please don't be cute about this even if you are angry.

Thanks guys...


I was very angry. My apologies.
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Re: Uncle Sam says

Unread postby Aaron » Thu 03 Sep 2009, 13:08:25

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('flapjax', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Aaron', 'P')lease refer to our Code of Conduct found in the menu on the left for posting requirements.

I will enforce it without further notice.

And so you know... I do see where everybody is posting from even if you think otherwise, so please don't be cute about this even if you are angry.

Thanks guys...


I was very angry. My apologies.


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Re: Uncle Sam says

Unread postby IgnoranceIsBliss » Mon 14 Sep 2009, 22:02:16

link Here is an example of how unsustainable our illegal immigrant situation is. (Grady is a large hospital in Atlanta that serves mostly low income people and those without insurance. It is bleeding red ink and is the only level one trama center for much of the state (where you are flow in if you have a bad auto accident for example). It has been teetering on the brink of closure for years now and running huge deficits)
Grady offers 6-month reprieve to patients of dialysis clinic$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'G')rady Memorial Hospital is offering to relocate about 60 outpatient dialysis patients to other states or send them back to their home countries as the hospital prepares to close its dialysis unit.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'G')rady officials said they plan to close the outpatient dialysis unit because the clinic is old, uses outdated equipment and has lost between $2 million and $4 million a year in recent years.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he problem is that about 60 of the clinic’s 90 patients are undocumented immigrants who cannot collect government aid such as Medicaid. That makes it difficult to transfer them to a private provider.
Virtually none of these 60 patients has insurance or government assistance.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')b]Grady loses about $75,000 a year providing care to each of these nonpaying patients.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'G')rady plans to shift about 30 of the outpatient dialysis patients to private providers in metro Atlanta. These patients are U.S. citizens and almost all either have Medicaid or Medicare or are soon to receive it.
Gove, the hospital spokesman, said hospital officials expect as many as 20 of the patients who are undocumented immigrants will relocate to another state. He said Grady has found about 11 states in the country that provide Medicaid assistance for undocumented immigrants for outpatient dialysis treatment. Georgia does not. The states include New York, North Carolina, Florida, New Jersey, Washington, Virginia, Massachusetts, Connecticut, Ohio, Illinois and Wisconsin.

There was a picture showing immigrant protestors holding signs saying "Healthcare is a basic right".

So we have 11 states that will provide Medicaid benefits to illegal immigrants? What the heck? Folks, it's time to make the tough choices like this. There are no easy answers but we cannot continue in this fashion.
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Re: Uncle Sam says

Unread postby Pretorian » Mon 14 Sep 2009, 23:43:37

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('IgnoranceIsBliss', ' ') So we have 11 states that will provide Medicaid benefits to illegal immigrants? What the heck? Folks, it's time to make the tough choices like this. There are no easy answers but we cannot continue in this fashion.

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Re: Uncle Sam says

Unread postby IgnoranceIsBliss » Thu 17 Sep 2009, 12:45:00

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pretorian', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('IgnoranceIsBliss', ' ') So we have 11 states that will provide Medicaid benefits to illegal immigrants? What the heck? Folks, it's time to make the tough choices like this. There are no easy answers but we cannot continue in this fashion.
Warning: Fascism
So you support giving your tax dollars (or borrowing and growing the debt) to pay for care for every illegal alien in the US? (keep in mind their kids who are born here are already citizens and receive Medicaid)

Medicaid is in deep trouble. It will be bankrupt very soon, which means a tax increase. States have seen their Medicaid rolls grow during the recession and are having great difficulty paying for the increase. (cost shared state and Fed)

I don't take joy in folks getting sick without insurance but it happens every day all over the country. We can't even provide for people who are here legally, so now we should cover illegals too?

The story at Grady shows how we have been going out of our way already, but we have hit the wall. Money is short and the choices are difficult but something has to give.
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Re: Uncle Sam says

Unread postby flapjax » Thu 17 Sep 2009, 15:08:30

What would Jesus do?
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Re: Uncle Sam says

Unread postby rangerone314 » Thu 17 Sep 2009, 15:18:19

What would Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny and the Flying Spaghetti Monster do?
An ideology is by definition not a search for TRUTH-but a search for PROOF that its point of view is right

Equals barter and negotiate-people with power just take

You cant defend freedom by eliminating it-unknown

Our elected reps should wear sponsor patches on their suits so we know who they represent-like Nascar-Roy
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Re: Uncle Sam says

Unread postby flapjax » Thu 17 Sep 2009, 15:44:01

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rangerone314', 'W')hat would Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny and the Flying Spaghetti Monster do?


lol ranger, I agree with you not being a cult member myself. I do think that there are a lot of Christians that would love to keep all they can and give as little as possible though. Even as a non-christian, I'm willing to do the right thing. For the record, on this subject, and before anyone says otherwise, I'm definately not for illegal immigration. I don't however think we should take it out on the poor Mexicans that work hard and provide for thier families on whatever wage American companies feel they can get away with paying them. I'm antidiscriminationist thats all. Being a half-white/half-asian I'm often confused with being Mexican, and I can tell you that the more people bring this stuff up the more I'm treated as a second class citizen. The problem needs to be resolved and the solution is simple. Go after the companies that hire illegal immigrants. If there is no work here why would they stick around when they speak little to no english and thier families are at home in Mexico? It needs to be done before heathcare reform IMHO.
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Re: Uncle Sam says

Unread postby UncoveringTruths » Thu 17 Sep 2009, 15:59:42

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'S')ome people are making San Felipe Del Rio Consolidated Independent School District Superintendent Kelt Cooper the villain for enforcing state law that requires students who attend his schools to live in the district.

But he is right in telling parents of children who are crossing the U.S.-Mexican border each morning that they need to prove residency in the district if they want to continue going to class in Del Rio.

This is not about immigration status.

School officials aren’t allowed to inquire about a student’s immigration status; if they reside in the district they can meet the state’s eligibility for enrollment in school.

The Del Rio News-Herald calls the fact that hundreds of children cross the border each day to attend classes the worst-kept secret in Del Rio.

The situation is not unique to Del Rio; it happens up and down the border.


http://www.mysanantonio.com/opinion/Border_school_district_making_the_right_call_.html
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Re: Uncle Sam says

Unread postby Pretorian » Thu 17 Sep 2009, 22:41:06

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('IgnoranceIsBliss', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pretorian', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('IgnoranceIsBliss', ' ') So we have 11 states that will provide Medicaid benefits to illegal immigrants? What the heck? Folks, it's time to make the tough choices like this. There are no easy answers but we cannot continue in this fashion.

Warning: Fascism


So you support giving your tax dollars (or borrowing and growing the debt) to pay for care for every illegal alien in the US? (keep in mind their kids who are born here are already citizens and receive Medicaid)




Honey, I don't mind if you you club all of them to death , I just found your avatar to be entertaining, considering your post.
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Re: Uncle Sam says

Unread postby IgnoranceIsBliss » Fri 18 Sep 2009, 15:30:31

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('flapjax', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rangerone314', 'W')hat would Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny and the Flying Spaghetti Monster do?


lol ranger, I agree with you not being a cult member myself. I do think that there are a lot of Christians that would love to keep all they can and give as little as possible though. Even as a non-christian, I'm willing to do the right thing. For the record, on this subject, and before anyone says otherwise, I'm definately not for illegal immigration. I don't however think we should take it out on the poor Mexicans that work hard and provide for thier families on whatever wage American companies feel they can get away with paying them. I'm antidiscriminationist thats all. Being a half-white/half-asian I'm often confused with being Mexican, and I can tell you that the more people bring this stuff up the more I'm treated as a second class citizen. The problem needs to be resolved and the solution is simple. Go after the companies that hire illegal immigrants. If there is no work here why would they stick around when they speak little to no english and thier families are at home in Mexico? It needs to be done before heathcare reform IMHO.


So simple, yet so unpalatable to the government I guess. We saw a few big raids on the meat packing industry, but the agents took it out on the workers. "Big Meat" ( :lol: ) probably just got a slap on the wrist.

Same here with the chicken plants. My town has numerous chicken processing plants and they employ large numbers of Mexican workers. One plant was recently fined over $300,000 by OSHA for repeated and willfull safety violations. Why should they keep a safe workplace when the workers can't complain? I have no idea who used to work in these plants before the Mexicans came. (there is NO worker base here to support all of the plants) I know there used to be large #'s of Vietnamese but they left for the gulf coast area (locals told us all about it).

"Give me your tired, your poor,

Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,

The wretched refuse of your teeming shore,

Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,

I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

Sounds great, but practical issues do get in the way. (we broke!)

If God would provide, it sure would be nice.
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Re: Uncle Sam says

Unread postby pablonite » Fri 11 Dec 2009, 10:35:52

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('IgnoranceIsBliss', 'S')o simple, yet so unpalatable to the government I guess. We saw a few big raids on the meat packing industry, but the agents took it out on the workers. "Big Meat" ( :lol: ) probably just got a slap on the wrist.

Same here with the chicken plants. My town has numerous chicken processing plants and they employ large numbers of Mexican workers. One plant was recently fined over $300,000 by OSHA for repeated and willfull safety violations


Speaking of rotten "big meat" in America have you seen the Food Inc. documentary?

The chicken battery owners are debt slaves like the rest of us, they average about $20,000 a year in profit but lay out 300,000 for a modern windownless coup. Some of the footage will make you think twice about eating "processed" meat so your call!
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Re: Uncle Sam says

Unread postby Pretorian » Sat 03 Jul 2010, 13:00:22

well chicken is the most abused and the most drugged animal out there.
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Re: Uncle Sam says

Unread postby Serial_Worrier » Wed 22 Sep 2010, 17:58:39

Does Mexico deport illegals? I say we do what they do. :twisted: :twisted:
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