by ReverseEngineer » Sun 05 Apr 2009, 09:33:13
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')What I am trying to say is that it is not impossible to force Americans into martial laws and military dictatorship.
If it can be done in NK (or number of dozens of other countries), then why not in US?
Nothing is impossible EU. However, the size of the US as well as the history makes running such a large scale military dictatorship very difficult, the only real comparable ones would be China under Mao and the USSR under Stalin. In both cases you are talking about "Communist" totalitarian regimes that only came about after Civil War, and establishing any kind of military dictatorship here, either Fascist or Communist will also first entail a civil war.
You seem to picture most Amerikans as fat lazy slobs who will just roll over and play dead for jackbooted thugs paid by the Banksters. At some point in the recruitment here of additional personnel necessary to fire on their brothers and sisters, the military will fracture. There will be a breakup of the US into Regions, and internecine battles for control within the regions as a much more likely outcome than a single country with one Dictator like Idi Amin or Saddam. Not to say your individual Regions won't have their own little Hitlers or little Stalins, however you can get your Fidels and your Hugos also. The likeliest outcome is that the US becomes a bunch of Banana Republics like you find down in South America, with different Dictatorial leaders who have different qualities. Some better, some worse in terms of the level of violence used to maintain control.
In converting over to Communist Dictatorship from the Monarchies of the Romanoffs and the Chinese Emperors, the general apparatus of Goobermint didn't change all that much, in the case of the US the whole Goobermint apparatus of elected officials at a variety of levels will change A LOT. Even in the best of times the Plutocracy some call Democracy here had a lot of problems running, and moreover the whole business has been based on a Fiat Money system which is now going down the toilet. Without functioning money of ANY kind, its going to be real hard for any individual in any area to take control. Remember, your dictators like Saddam always had outside sources of Money funding them, the less resources a Dictator had to exploit and sell off to the Banksters, the less control over a given area they would have. Idi Amin didn't have as much Oil in his region as Saddam had in his, so he controlled only a smaller population that was even more impoverished than Iraquis were under Saddam.
Thing is, this is actually going to take a little while to play out here because TPTB aren't going to give up the Fiat Monetary system without a fight, which means they will keep printing Dollars until a disconnect happens and people no longer take dollars because they have become meaningless. They will continue to print dollars to continue paying Unemployment, continue paying SS, continue paying the Soldiers. They CANNOT raise enough money through Tax Revenue or Borrowing from the Chinese to do this, so they MUST print it. When it stops working is anybody's guess, but right now the indications are that unrestricted monetary supply inflation can go for another year maybe? By the time it finally implodes, it will be far too late for a single US Dictator to take control here and turn the US into a Fascist version of China or the USSR, so you get the Banana Republic effect.
My guess would be that once the monetary system fails, left to their own and unexploited by outside influences, bribery and greed, the individual regions will resolve most of the overshoot problems through internecine fighting, probably killing off 50% in a typical region. After a while, people will get tired of the fighting and start to rebuild. Plenty of stuff from the Oil Era to scavenge and rebuild from in the first go round of this. The initial fighting will take a while, the rebuilding phase will take a while, then you probably have another go round of this somewhere down the line. I'm not going to put an absolute timeline on it other than I think it takes less than 100 years for at least 2 more go rounds.
I won't be around to see the End Game, that is for sure. Well, unless it all ends on 12-21-2012, which also is possible. I will however...wait for it...
See You on the Other Side.
Reverse Engineer
