[scarly]

I actually just moved back in with my parents due to economic reasons. I used to be a housekeeper, luxury survice for most. No money to keep going, and the field I am in now, was filled where I was living. Here they had an opening.

But to be honest the rural living people I don't think will see much homeless. Houses much farther apart. Hell there are places you would barely notice if someone decided to slip in and start living in it.

I think there were some cases that showed up like that. A few people who had become homeless due to forclosures were living in a forclosed house. Cops found out and kicked them out.

I think you might could fill those houses, but make rules to live in them. Have someone checking on the condition of the house every week to make sure things are in order.

Maybe have levels of homeless. Applications to move certain homeless into a nicer area. No criminal history, and believes in a clean enviroment. There will be some homeless like this. What if that was the case Tinman? Good families that were just made homeless by forclosure, no different from you, just had a run of bad luck in the economy.

I mean the government requires applications for every other fucking thing to get help, why not housing for homeless. There are many different kinds of neighborhoods where houses are empty, and many different kinds of homeless people. Not all people are the same, and not all people got homeless the same way.

I vote applications for where a person goes who is homeless, if we have to provide a place for them.

There is my thought.

[Pretorian]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ReverseEngineer', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('timmac', 'N')ot mine the vacant one next door.

[timmac]

If the economy gets a lot worse and many more homless familes hit the streets and there was proper screening to weed out felons and dead beats and such than I could see short term giving free rent to a family but not more than 1 family per house, not single men or women they can stay at the homless shelters, and the long term mental/crinmal ones now on the streets can stay there, those will only cause the most problems in neighborrs, also they can do work for the community for this free housing but not long term and house must still be up for sale when somone wants house and should be fixed back up for buyer.

Only under these conditions will I accept and many more homowners would feel the same or than that vacant house next to me might mysteriously go up in smoke.

I have paid my due's, taxes, mortage, etc than why should I or my neighborhood or your neighborhood be a dumping ground for deadbeat homless folks..........

[ReverseEngineer]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('timmac', 'I')f the economy gets a lot worse and many more homless familes hit the streets and there was proper screening to weed out felons and dead beats and such than I could see short term giving free rent to a family but not more than 1 family per house, not single men or women they can stay at the homless shelters, and the long term mental/crinmal ones now on the streets can stay there, those will only cause the most problems in neighborrs, also they can do work for the community for this free housing but not long term and house must still be up for sale when somone wants house and should be fixed back up for buyer.

Only under these conditions will I accept and many more homowners would feel the same or than that vacant house next to me might mysteriously go up in smoke.

I have paid my due's, taxes, mortage, etc than why should I or my neighborhood or your neighborhood be a dumping ground for deadbeat homless folks..........

[threadbear]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('scarly', 'I') actually just moved back in with my parents due to economic reasons. I used to be a housekeeper, luxury survice for most. No money to keep going, and the field I am in now, was filled where I was living. Here they had an opening.

But to be honest the rural living people I don't think will see much homeless. Houses much farther apart. Hell there are places you would barely notice if someone decided to slip in and start living in it.

I think there were some cases that showed up like that. A few people who had become homeless due to forclosures were living in a forclosed house. Cops found out and kicked them out.

I think you might could fill those houses, but make rules to live in them. Have someone checking on the condition of the house every week to make sure things are in order.

Maybe have levels of homeless. Applications to move certain homeless into a nicer area. No criminal history, and believes in a clean enviroment. There will be some homeless like this. What if that was the case Tinman? Good families that were just made homeless by forclosure, no different from you, just had a run of bad luck in the economy.

I mean the government requires applications for every other fucking thing to get help, why not housing for homeless. There are many different kinds of neighborhoods where houses are empty, and many different kinds of homeless people. Not all people are the same, and not all people got homeless the same way.

I vote applications for where a person goes who is homeless, if we have to provide a place for them.

There is my thought.

[Aaron]

Soylent Green of course.



How about a judge assigns the homeless as butlers and maids and such for solvent families?

The homeless get room & board... everyone else gets cheap domestic services.

Win/Win

I got dibs on RE...

[timmac]

This whole business of *mysterious* burning of properties to prevent the Goobermint from housing people near you bothers me. How does having burned out shells of homes surrounding you halep your property values?



I would rather have a burnt shell next door than a house full of deadbeat/criminal homeless folks any day of the week...

[ReverseEngineer]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Aaron', 'S')oylent Green of course.



How about a judge assigns the homeless as butlers and maids and such for solvent families?

The homeless get room & board... everyone else gets cheap domestic services.

Win/Win

I got dibs on RE...

[MarkJ]

I'd rather own properties next to burned structures, than in neighborhoods near subsidized housing projects or near a high density of low income apartment buildings and non owner occupied multi-family homes.

Burned structures are often cleaned up by the cities, then sold for expansion/parking to neighbors. With so many older balloon framed homes and multi-families with fuse boxes, knob & wiring, aluminum wiring, light gauge wiring, cobbed up wiring, overloaded circuits, space heaters, wood stoves etc, there are always plenty of burned up shells in some older sections of cities.

These homes are much easier for landlords to torch as well when they can no longer afford the mortgage, property taxes, insurance, heat, hot water, electric, water, sewer, garbage removal, maintenance, repairs, safety/code/blight compliance, lawsuits, eviction costs, lost time, lost work etc.

Many homeless, low income and under-employed people couldn't afford many of the expenses listed above if you gave them a home free of charge. Some regions have actually tried giving tax auction homes away in the past, but the owners couldn't afford property taxes, insurance, heat, electric, water, sewer, maintenance, repairs and/or they trashed the places and failed to comply with blight/safety/fire/occupancy/health codes.

[Jack]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ReverseEngineer', 'S')o the question I am posing to the group members is just what kind of policies we need to take towards the increasing Homeless population both in the short term and in the long term?

[timmac]

It looks as if the vacant house next door might have sold,, This is great news for me because no homeless bums will be placed here now..


Saw on the news that Cali has removed about 200 homeless living in tents in a vacant lot and bused them away to homeless shelters,, brought in bulldozers and dump trucks and leveled the site, tents and all, sounds like they know what to do in Cali, we need the same here but bus the homeless to Alaska near R.E. house..

[anador]

There have been some rumblings in the metro miami area recently.

A group of vigilantes apparently have been resettling foreclosed families into foreclosed and abandoned properties.

There are many benefits, they keep the neighborhood neat, and well kept. The houses being occupied makes the area safer than a street of abandoned houses.

The police have said they cannot and will not act unless banks make specific complaints on specific properties.

The banks never send anyone out after the initial foreclosure until the eventual auction, which are now indefinitely postponed more often than not.

So the effect is, less families on the streets.

This doesn't really relate to a post peak scenario, except that as things fall apart, the over built glut of housing stock will be less and less monitored, until it becomes very easy for anyone to live in a house, they just won't own it.

[Jotapay]

They are rounding up the homeless in CA. I'll post the news story with footage as it becomes available. Alex Jones (say what you want about him, but he is the only one reporting this stuff right now) sent two reporters to Los Angeles to record the camps.

1. CPS is taking the families' children.
2. They are pulling over RVs and people living in their cars. If you don't have insurance, the police seize the vehicle and possessions and sell them.
3. They described the people in the camps as just trying to survive.
4. The reporters (one is from LA) were searching Los Angeles for the normal spots where the homeless usually hang out, but they could not find any.

[vision-master]

FEMA camps.

No, you can't leave............

[AgentR]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jotapay', '2'). They are pulling over RVs and people living in their cars. If you don't have insurance, the police seize the vehicle and possessions and sell them.

[vision-master]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'c')ompassion to carry insurance

[Jotapay]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'g')iant death machines in the public realm without even the compassion to carry insurance to help those whom they mutilate?

[OilsNotWell]

I found this post to be somewhat misleading after searching for any corraborating information. It seems that your post is based on most of the information in this story:
article
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')b]Camp Arnie: A Glimpse of Things to Come by Kurt Nimmo, Infowars, Mar 29, 2009
Bloomberg: California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger said a make-shift tent city for the homeless that sprang up in the capital city of Sacramento will be shut down and its residents allowed to stay at the state fairgrounds.

[Schmuto]

Visiting Infowars is like panning for gold in a decent river; you have to sift through a lot of worthless sediment to find the gold nugget.

Alex believes that fluoride makes you dumb.

I had fluoride my whole life and I'm the 3rd smartest person I know.

So either they're being hysterical about that, or I could have been the world's smartest man.

[vision-master]

inforwars is like http://www.earthfiles.com/