[rangerone314]

I suppose you could legalize drugs, but for who?

21 year olds?

18 year olds?

5 year olds?

We always draw lines somewhere...

Unintended consequences of a drug & crime-free society: more peace of mind, leave doors unlocked, people would be less paranoid about crime and probably more friendly to strangers, less taxes since less spent on social services.

My system would actually work. It would come pretty close to curing a problem.

Our systems (whether governmental or medical) don't cure many problems... we treat them. We have many treatments for diseases but not a lot of cures, since cures are not profitable. If everyone was healthy we wouldn't need doctors as much.

If the government actually FIXED problems instead of perpetuating them, they would work themselves out of their jobs. The war on drugs makes for a nice system that allows for crimes against the citizenry to occur while we have a revolving door prison system, and spend money on law enforcement and security apparatus.

If they bring back the draft to fight a war, which is NOT ancient American history, that would be for some a death penalty, and a fairly arbitrary one.

[Dreamtwister]

I think we've strayed somewhat from the topic of this thread. Could we please return to it?

[rangerone314]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('KingM', 'H')ow many of you have actually been to Mexico?

There's a saying in Spanish that applies: en boca cerrada, no entran moscas.

[rangerone314]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('eastbay', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cynus', 'G')reat article over at the Oil Drum on the ongoing collapse:
http://www.theoildrum.com/node/5172#more

[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', '
')Kill the achievers!

[Sixstrings]

Well, score a +1 for peakoil.com. This Mexico collapse watch thread has been going on for a long time.. and now it's coming to pass, with TSHTF with the drug lords and it's all over the MSM.

Obama needs to get the Army down on that border before this mess spreads into Texas more than it has already.

[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', 'W')e are risen Ludi.

[eastbay]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Sixstrings', 'W')ell, score a +1 for peakoil.com. This Mexico collapse watch thread has been going on for a long time.. and now it's coming to pass, with TSHTF with the drug lords and it's all over the MSM.

Obama needs to get the Army down on that border before this mess spreads into Texas more than it has already.

[Dreamtwister]

Will Obama Deploy Troops To U.S.-Mexico Border?

NPR link. They mentioned something about border patrols on CNN this morning as well, but I only caught the last 15 seconds or so of the item, so I don't know the context.

[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Dreamtwister', 'W')ill Obama Deploy Troops To U.S.-Mexico Border?

[rangerone314]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Dreamtwister', 'W')ill Obama Deploy Troops To U.S.-Mexico Border?

[Pretorian]

For the last time: If there are any doomsayer here who had shorted MXN?

[Sixstrings]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'N')PR link. They mentioned something about border patrols on CNN this morning as well, but I only caught the last 15 seconds or so of the item, so I don't know the context.

[wisconsin_cur]

To be fair some on the right and libertarians also objected on the basis of army troops carrying out a mission on us soil in what could be construed as a law enforcement issue.

[Tanada]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('wisconsin_cur', 'T')o be fair some on the right and libertarians also objected on the basis of army troops carrying out a mission on us soil in what could be construed as a law enforcement issue.

[eastbay]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Tanada', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('wisconsin_cur', 'T')o be fair some on the right and libertarians also objected on the basis of army troops carrying out a mission on us soil in what could be construed as a law enforcement issue.

[Cynus]

On the one hand we're discussing sending troops to the border, on the other we're going out of our way to give illegal immigrants jobs on the taxpayers's dime.

Illegal immigrants might get stimulus jobs, experts say

http://www.usatoday.com/money/economy/e ... jobs_N.htm

LOS ANGELES — Tens of thousands of jobs created by the economic stimulus law could end up filled by illegal immigrants, particularly in big states such as California where undocumented workers are heavily represented in construction, experts on both sides of the issue say.

They fault Congress for failing to require that employers certify legal immigration status of workers before hiring by using a Department of Homeland Security program called E-Verify. The program allows employers to check the validity of Social Security numbers provided by new hires. It is available to employers on a voluntary basis.

The version of the stimulus bill passed by the House of Representatives included a provision requiring employers to check immigration status with the E-Verify system before hiring. The Senate did not include such a provision, and it was not in the version sent to President Obama. The Obama administration has delayed until at least May 21 a Bush administration executive order requiring federal contractors to use the E-Verify system in hiring. It had been scheduled to take effect in January.

[truecougarblue]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Sixstrings', ' ')and no we really don't want to look like East Germany or some such.