[ReverseEngineer]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rangerone314', '
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How can one be sure it is a monetary system collapse and not a Depression, in the manner of a K-wave winter? It does seem to fit the pattern of a 60-year odd K-wave cycle.

If it is a total collapse, then your idea has great merit, except for the difficulty of getting the world leaders to do something that actually makes sense, and getting them all to coordinate.

[rangerone314]

If you are forward looking towards a situation where energy is the standard for economics, why both with separate currencies?

You could simply have a single world unit of energy credits, where essentially one credit is redeemable for a given amount of energy.

Perhaps everyone gets a certain quota of energy, and then it is up to them to decide what to do with their quota of energy.

[vision-master]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')t fits the cycle pattern, and it IS a Kondratieff Winter, but in order to see that it goes BEYOND that you have to look at the signs coming from OUTSIDE the economic cycle patterns. Those signs are what we see in the natural world. The collapse of ecosystems, the droughts in ag areas of the world that support the current population, and most of all from the perspective of this board, the Peak Oil problem.

[sjn]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ReverseEngineer', '
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I want to make one point very clear here to my good friend Pops. I AM doing something, and its not the same thing he does which is focusing on just what one does for oneself in a small way. I am TRYING to get many people to THINK about BIG solutions. There is no problem so big it cannot be solved. You just have to grasp hold of it and get enough people working on the solution to make it possible. We have those people here. ShortonOil, put on your Thinking Cap. Lets work it out.

Reverse Engineer

[ReverseEngineer]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('sjn', '
')All problems may have solutions, but solutions are not necessarily acceptable to those with problems. Sometimes, those with the problems are the problem.

[timmatoil]

How realistic is President Obama’s call for Americans to “discover great opportunity in the midst of great crisis”? (See here: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090307/ap_ ... wh/obama_2) It’s a “survival of the fittest” thing, says the Stock Research Portal:“Whether there are enough people who can discern and act on opportunities in the current climate to turn the U.S. economy around any time soon remains to be seen.”

Via Stock Research Portal (http://www.stockresearchportal.com)

Do you agree? Is their a great opportunity now?

[vision-master]

Fixed: “survival of the richest”

[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', 'F')ixed: “survival of the richest”

[gnm]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', 'Y')ep. Unless the non-rich can work together to prevent the rich from accumulating the remaining wealth.

Otherwise, buh-bye middle class, hello New Feudalism.

[vision-master]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gnm', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', 'Y')ep. Unless the non-rich can work together to prevent the rich from accumulating the remaining wealth.

Otherwise, buh-bye middle class, hello New Feudalism.

[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gnm', '
')Ludi, I really think we are there already.

-G

[gnm]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gnm', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', 'Y')ep. Unless the non-rich can work together to prevent the rich from accumulating the remaining wealth.

Otherwise, buh-bye middle class, hello New Feudalism.

[rangerone314]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gnm', '
')Ludi, I really think we are there already.

-G

[jasonraymondson]

People who make 100,000 work 10 times harder than someone who makes 10,000

Obviously, anyone who thinks that, has not done physical labor.

I worked in a foundry for two years. I guaran mother fucking tee you that no god damn ceo has ever worked that fucking hard in their life.

[threadbear]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jasonraymondson', 'P')eople who make 100,000 work 10 times harder than someone who makes 10,000

Obviously, anyone who thinks that, has not done physical labor.

I worked in a foundry for two years. I guaran mother fucking tee you that no god damn ceo has ever worked that fucking hard in their life.

[jasonraymondson]

I love how people claim they work so hard and are under so much pressure to perform, that their lively hood is based on performance of the company?

I would really like to know what the ceo actually does other than delicate authority and get $50,000,000.00 severance packages.

[vision-master]

They got the 'vision'.

[gnm]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('threadbear', 'B')eing a CEO--piece of cake. Great money. All you have to do is think, and you can delegate much of that, too. I'm sure any of us here could have done better running Wall street, than the bunch of ideologically retarded fools who have pretty much destroyed everyone's stock portfolios.

If I've learned anything in 53 years, it's to have a LOT of respect for people who actually work, and not much for those who, like parasites manage to worm their way into positions of hyper status, that they don't deserve.

[deMolay]

Sir Josiah Stamp "Banking was conceived in iniquity and was born in sin. The Bankers own the earth. Take it away from them, but leave them the power to create deposits, and with the flick of the pen they will create enough deposits to buy it back again. However, take it away from them, and all the great fortunes like mine will disappear and they ought to disappear, for this would be a happier and better world to live in. But, if you wish to remain the slaves of Bankers and pay the cost of your own slavery, let them continue to create deposits."