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Re: Ubuntu Ultimate Edition 2.0

Unread postby pedalling_faster » Tue 02 Dec 2008, 13:30:22

it's good to keep an old computer around so you can experiment with worthwhile programs like Ubuntu before making the commitment on your primary system.

anyway, thanks for the link.
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Re: Ubuntu Ultimate Edition 2.0

Unread postby TWilliam » Tue 02 Dec 2008, 14:38:28

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('sjn', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mgibbons19', 'I')t's funny that this should pop up now. In my wife's 'fix the closet' projects, out came an old box, which I started to reset up. (P333 I think)

Pentium II?
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')The old Win 2k runs fast, but there is something mildly wrong with it that makes it difficult to work with.

I installed the new ubuntu off a live CD, and was impressed that I finally (after years of fiddling but not committing) got a linux to work. Of course that says more about the newer distros than me.

But man, it's slow. Which is unfortunate because now I have grand plans to set this up as the music server plugged into my stereo, blah blah blah.

I wouldn't expect it to be fast, although it shouldn't be unusably slow. You'll definitely want to be using the right driver for your graphics hardware!

Something that will make it somewhat slower on that hardware, Ubuntu is not optimised for the Pentium II, in fact performance critical components such as glibc are optimised for the Pentium 4 (netburst architecture), as far as I know (this is definitely true of Fedora). This penalises non-netburst machines (not as badly as running non-netburst optimised code on a Pentium 4 though, which is why it's done that way) although newer machines are fast enough for it not to be to noticable and still faster than using i386 code. It's one of the reasons I always use Gentoo! ;)

One other thing is, you'll need plenty of RAM, at least 512Mb really, otherwise you really would be better off going for a lighter weight distribution.
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Indeed. Ubuntu is pretty much cutting edge and requires fairly recent hardware to run well, tho' of course you can strip it down to improve performance. I'd go with sjn on this one and try some of the lighter distributions.

Damn Small Linux is a pretty good 'bare bones' distro. It's based off of Debian, so you have access to pretty much all of the same software that Ubuntu does (it also being based on Debian); it's just not all pre-installed. It will likely take some more configuration work to get everything working at its best, but it's still a good starting point.
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Re: Ubuntu Ultimate Edition 2.0

Unread postby perdition79 » Tue 02 Dec 2008, 15:22:44

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TWilliam', '[')url=http://damnsmalllinux.org/]Damn Small Linux[/url] is a pretty good 'bare bones' distro. It's based off of Debian, so you have access to pretty much all of the same software that Ubuntu does (it also being based on Debian); it's just not all pre-installed. It will likely take some more configuration work to get everything working at its best, but it's still a good starting point.


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Re: Ubuntu Ultimate Edition 2.0

Unread postby JoeSixPack » Tue 02 Dec 2008, 15:24:13

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('bodinagamin', 'L')inux distros are becoming more user-friendly over the years... but I still prefer Mac OS X.

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Re: Ubuntu Ultimate Edition 2.0

Unread postby TWilliam » Wed 03 Dec 2008, 14:40:57

*ahem*

Ok... SO... returning to the topic...

One of my favorite recent discoveries (well ok, I've known about it for awhile, just never bothered looking at it) is desktop virtualization. Using software for the purpose, such as Sun's VirtualBox, one can create a virtual environment (essentially a software-based representation of a computer's hardware) within one's current environment, and then boot another OS inside of it. I've been using it to check out different Linux 'live' CDs (those such as the subject of the OP) that interest me. It's neat because I can usually do so just by loading the ISO file into the virtual machine, without ever having to actually burn a CD.

In fact, I just made this post from this Ubuntu Ultimate Edition running inside VirtualBox... :)
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Re: Ubuntu Ultimate Edition 2.0

Unread postby jasonraymondson » Wed 03 Dec 2008, 16:07:18

I am sick of constantly downloading
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Re: Ubuntu Ultimate Edition 2.0

Unread postby bodigami » Wed 03 Dec 2008, 16:42:51

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TWilliam', '*')ahem*

Ok... SO... returning to the topic...

One of my favorite recent discoveries (well ok, I've known about it for awhile, just never bothered looking at it) is desktop virtualization. Using software for the purpose, such as Sun's VirtualBox, one can create a virtual environment (essentially a software-based representation of a computer's hardware) within one's current environment, and then boot another OS inside of it. I've been using it to check out different Linux 'live' CDs (those such as the subject of the OP) that interest me. It's neat because I can usually do so just by loading the ISO file into the virtual machine, without ever having to actually burn a CD.

In fact, I just made this post from this Ubuntu Ultimate Edition running inside VirtualBox... :)


Virtualization is quite useful. I have a copy of VMware Fussion... but I deleted all virtual machines from my Mac... tired of "the distro of the month".
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Re: Ubuntu Ultimate Edition 2.0

Unread postby CarlosFerreira » Wed 03 Dec 2008, 16:57:53

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TWilliam', '*')ahem*

Ok... SO... returning to the topic...

One of my favorite recent discoveries (well ok, I've known about it for awhile, just never bothered looking at it) is desktop virtualization. Using software for the purpose, such as Sun's VirtualBox, one can create a virtual environment (essentially a software-based representation of a computer's hardware) within one's current environment, and then boot another OS inside of it. I've been using it to check out different Linux 'live' CDs (those such as the subject of the OP) that interest me. It's neat because I can usually do so just by loading the ISO file into the virtual machine, without ever having to actually burn a CD.

In fact, I just made this post from this Ubuntu Ultimate Edition running inside VirtualBox... :)


I've been looking for a competent, free virtualization software in which to try Ubuntu. Thanks for that! :razz:
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Re: Ubuntu Ultimate Edition 2.0

Unread postby TWilliam » Thu 04 Dec 2008, 00:13:24

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('bodinagamin', 'V')irtualization is quite useful. I have a copy of VMware Fussion... but I deleted all virtual machines from my Mac... tired of "the distro of the month".

I've heard VMware's products are supposed to be pretty much the Rolls Royce of virtualization solutions. If I was developing a virtual infrastructure for production deployment they'd probably be the choice. However for my limited hobby use, VirtualBox seems adequate. Not to mention the price is right (free)... 8)

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('CarlosFerreira', 'I')'ve been looking for a competent, free virtualization software in which to try Ubuntu. Thanks for that!

You're quite welcome. Keep in mind however that these setups aren't without occasional issues. The wide array of hardware options in computers always presents opportunities for unusual challenges. I consider myself fortunate that my setup has worked pretty well so far with minimal fuss...
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Re: Ubuntu Ultimate Edition 2.0

Unread postby CarlosFerreira » Thu 04 Dec 2008, 05:42:08

Thank you for the tips, TWilliam. I'll keep that in mind.
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Re: Ubuntu Ultimate Edition 2.0

Unread postby bodigami » Thu 04 Dec 2008, 11:39:45

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TWilliam', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('bodinagamin', 'V')irtualization is quite useful. I have a copy of VMware Fussion... but I deleted all virtual machines from my Mac... tired of "the distro of the month".

I've heard VMware's products are supposed to be pretty much the Rolls Royce of virtualization solutions. If I was developing a virtual infrastructure for production deployment they'd probably be the choice. However for my limited hobby use, VirtualBox seems adequate. Not to mention the price is right (free)... 8)

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VMware Server is gratis but has no Mac version.

VMware Fussion is great, I bought it when it was $40 instead of $80... and when there was only Parallels. The other app I bought was Corel Painter Essentials... those 2 are quite useful and fun apps =)
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Re: Ubuntu Ultimate Edition 2.0

Unread postby smallpoxgirl » Sun 07 Dec 2008, 12:55:18

Well...I got ubuntu up and running. Seems pretty cool so far. Definitely not plug and play though. First I had to figure out how to install Java. Then I had to get the DVD player to work. Now I'm struggling with making it recognize my dual monitors. I suppose given that it's a whole new operating system that I'm not at all familiar with, the set up really wasn't that bad.

***Update: got my monitors and RAID array working. Now the printer. [smilie=eusa_think.gif]
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Re: Ubuntu Ultimate Edition 2.0

Unread postby TWilliam » Mon 08 Dec 2008, 01:48:37

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('smallpoxgirl', 'W')ell...I got ubuntu up and running. Seems pretty cool so far. Definitely not plug and play though. First I had to figure out how to install Java. Then I had to get the DVD player to work. Now I'm struggling with making it recognize my dual monitors. I suppose given that it's a whole new operating system that I'm not at all familiar with, the set up really wasn't that bad.

***Update: got my monitors and RAID array working. Now the printer. [smilie=eusa_think.gif]


Wowwwww... a girl braving The Penguin... and with dual monitors and RAID no less...

I'm impressed SPG... :wink:
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Re: Ubuntu Ultimate Edition 2.0

Unread postby Aaron » Tue 24 Feb 2009, 07:40:44

I have switched to running UE exclusively on my laptop & I'm really impressed.

Wine runs many of my Windows apps & driver support is excellent.

Boot time, universe downloads, driver translation... excellent.

When necessary, I run Sun's VirtualBox & launch Windows there.

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Re: Ubuntu Ultimate Edition 2.0

Unread postby jasonraymondson » Tue 24 Feb 2009, 09:33:36

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TWilliam', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('smallpoxgirl', 'W')ell...I got ubuntu up and running. Seems pretty cool so far. Definitely not plug and play though. First I had to figure out how to install Java. Then I had to get the DVD player to work. Now I'm struggling with making it recognize my dual monitors. I suppose given that it's a whole new operating system that I'm not at all familiar with, the set up really wasn't that bad.

***Update: got my monitors and RAID array working. Now the printer. [smilie=eusa_think.gif]


Wowwwww... a girl braving The Penguin... and with dual monitors and RAID no less...

I'm impressed SPG... :wink:


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Re: Ubuntu Ultimate Edition 2.0

Unread postby Jotapay » Tue 24 Feb 2009, 11:16:25

I've been messing with a Ubuntu Linux server at my house for a few weeks now. It's just an old Dell 2.4 GHz machine with a gig of RAM.

It's going to be my own home robot. Control my cameras, FTP stuff around the internet, etc. The tricky thing is getting the configuration settings working correctly for all the hardware. My home router has been a little wonky so far; I can't seem to SSH into the box from my job. But the firewall at my job is really draconian and the iptables firewall that I wrote is also very insanely draconian.

How did everyone configure their IP tables firewall to allow connections from the outside? I locked mine down super tight and I'm not sure if that's really necessary as I want to be able to get to Apache served web pages and SSH from the outside. Right now I have all rules set to DROP by default and I just allow certain sources/IP addresses set to ACCEPT with a limit rule (10/hour to prevent brute force password attacks) on port 21. I have FreeNX and the SSHD server configured to use the common FTP port 21 since my corporation's firewall is so locked down from the inside and I probably can't get out on port 22.

I got ZoneMinder up and working. It does pretty well with my two Panasonic IP/network cameras. The only thing I don't like is that authentication with the cameras isn't secure using ZoneMinder, so I may need to put the IP cameras and the Linux box behind their own firewall. There are other users on my network.
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