by Pops » Fri 20 Feb 2009, 15:10:50
Great thread Ludi you sure know how to stir the pot!
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('HeckuvaJob', '&')quot;Make a plan and work it". OK, this sounds promising. Lets say that we get 90% of our members "peak oil ready" (as defined by... some criteria). What about our communities? After all, no man is an island. But I'm having a hard enough time getting my own shit together.
Ain't that the truth. There are several threads discussing community preparations/transitions/etc. in PFTF but it isn't all about protests I think, mostly about just building ties. grow some tomato starts and give or sell them to a neighbor, help them out when the sink leaks, take over some food when they have a death or birth in the family and take them some cookies at Christmas.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('seldom_seen', 'A') revolutionary doesn't have to be out in the streets making an ass of himself. That's for the mob...
Yea, that's the thing.
All politics are local.Or:
Lead, follow or get trampled by the mob trying to get out of the way.$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ReverseEngineer', 'T')he problem would be it offends Pops' "Make a Plan and Work It" Philosophy of Life. If you aren't hip deep in horse shit, Pops has no time for your Revolutionary ideals. LOL.
... Pops, you could work your way out of the horse shit once in a while to a higher plane as well

The mind is a terrible thing to waste.
Now RE you know, I hope, that there are several threads in PFTF started or compiled by yours truly discussing ideas for urban/suburban transition and many ideas I have posted in those threads would look like a revolution to those living insuch places.
But hey, my hobby horse is re-localization, especially in small town America, what can I say? Here is a guy I have elevated my eye's from the pies to read and correspond with from time to time:
http://web.missouri.edu/~ikerdj/papers/He is a guy you would admire because he talks about things The Greater Other should do and not what he has done.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Aaron', 'W')ho will you revolt against?
Your own actions, or more likely,
inactions, put the powers that be in there to begin with.
Gonna revolt against yourself?
The legitimate object of government, is to do for a community of people, whatever they need to have done, but can not do, at all, or can not, so well do, for themselves -- in their separate, and individual capacities.
-- Abraham Lincoln, Fragment on Government (July 1, 1854)
by Pops » Fri 20 Feb 2009, 21:12:21
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('oowolf', 'I')'ve been revolting for decades....
I'm trying to learn to be revolting oo, but it's just hard to do when one is as naturally appealing as myself.
Go Man.
The legitimate object of government, is to do for a community of people, whatever they need to have done, but can not do, at all, or can not, so well do, for themselves -- in their separate, and individual capacities.
-- Abraham Lincoln, Fragment on Government (July 1, 1854)
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by mos6507 » Sat 21 Feb 2009, 10:27:54
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('cbxer55', ' ')Does not have to be me.
Why isn't it you?
I was talking to you in this thread - the people who promote and cheer revolution but do nothing about it themselves.
I would say someone who is already unemployed like cbxer55 is in a better position to make big changes in his life than someone like me, for instance, who has golden shackles as a well-paid programmer. But then, maybe someone who is unemployed and spending all his hours on peakoil.com bashing Obama might be indicative of a lack of motivation.
by vision-master » Sat 21 Feb 2009, 10:33:42
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mos6507', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('cbxer55', ' ')Does not have to be me.
Why isn't it you?
I was talking to you in this thread - the people who promote and cheer revolution but do nothing about it themselves.
I would say someone who is already unemployed like cbxer55 is in a better position to make big changes in his life than someone like me, for instance, who has golden shackles as a well-paid programmer. But then, maybe someone who is unemployed and spending all his hours on peakoil.com bashing Obama might be indicative of a lack of motivation.
He hate's unions, so he's on his own accord.
