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Re: The Singularity University

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Sat 14 Feb 2009, 18:52:32

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Dezakin', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Carlhole', '
')Hey, PMS, start a "Bah!" thread or something. You're boring.
Maybe to you. I think that I am keeping this cool thread alive by taking a contrarian position. If it wasn't for me, this thread would be page two by now! Bah! :-D

Congrats, I actually appreciated that insight.
Anytime I see a thread that needs a little bump, a thread worth keeping up, I'm going to do my best before it slips into the memory hole. Carlhole has given us a fascinating topic. Even if he and rsch20 are a bit crabby about dissent it's OK. Not to worry, the machines aren't going to take over. 8)
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Re: The Singularity University

Unread postby bodigami » Sat 14 Feb 2009, 19:00:16

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Dezakin', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('bodinagamin', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Sixstrings', 'P')lease tell me federal tax dollars are not funding this university on the NASA campus.

As for the "singularity.." as far as it relates to computing (that is, the point at which artificial intelligence becomes self-aware), it is an inevitability. Moore's Law on processing power has held up for what? 30, 40, 50 years now?


It is far from an inevitability. The density of transistors doesn't help program AI. In fact, "strong" AI hasn't developed much in the last decades.

Thats just not true. While AI based in symbolic logic is fairly mature for a fairly small set of applications (theorem proving in mathematics) it does continue to advance. But more advances are continuing to occur.

For instance, computational neuroscience has made huge advances over the past several decades. We've done full neurological simulation of C. elegans in software, and today we do full simulation of mammilian neocortical columns. It will be several more decades before we fully understand the structure necissary for doing real time simulation of human brains, and likely brain uploading is more decades out, so the likelyhood of singularity cultists finding immortality in a box is slim unless we can reconstruct the neurological structures from the frozen mess of skulls soaked in liquid nitrogen.

But its obviously inevitable that we will be able to replicate biologically realistic brains in software. After that, the world becomes a decidedly different place. And biological simulation is only the most obvious avenue to artificial intelligence being pursued.


It is not obviously inevitable. And Brain ≠ Mind
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