[kpeavey]

Take a look at vermiculture. Worm make a fine high protein food source for fish.

You will find that changing a portion of the water regularly will be required if the plants and filters are not able to keep up with waste removal/abatement. Pond water makes a fine irrigation source for land based crops, although weed control will be in order due to seeds in the water.

Keep us posted on your plans and results.

[Sixstrings]

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[StormBringer]

Welcome

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[LeCiel]

Hello folks,

I have read a lot about the peak oil issue in the past few days and joined the forum today. Apart from the question of how all this could influence my daily behavior (I don't expect suggestions on that!) another question came to my mind:

I was wondering if there is data available on the production cost distribution for existing proved oil reserves. One of the key statistics I have seen so far, strongly suggesting a peak in global oil production at some point is the overlay of new oil discoveries with the actual oil production over time where you see that we are producing more than we are discovering each year.
Has anyone seen a graph which indicates how much of the discovered reserves can be lifted at what cost? Furthermore, I would be curious to see a graph which indicates in how far the potential lifting cost for new oil discoveries has increased over time.

I am sure that there will be hundreds of pitfalls impeding the correct interpretation of the data but let's forget that for a second...

Thanks!
LeCiel

Btw: I tried a search!

[Maddog78]

Varies wildly.
New fields in SA and Iraq maybe less than $10/bbl.
New fields in Deep Water Offshore Brazil maybe $60/bbl or more.
New fields in the Arctic, ???

[LeCiel]

exactly, and given this variation it would be interesting to see which fraction one can lift at 10 $ , at 20 $, at 30 $, and so on. Are the discoveries from 2007 more difficult to lift than those of 2006 and 2005...

[Maddog78]

That's a big question that oil companies have whole departments of people working on.

I don't think you are going to get a short and quick answer and if you do it would be endlessly debated.

Good luck.

[misterno]

Given the oil price today, that means every oil producer except SA and gulf countries (excl Iran) are losing money.

Isn't that right?

[davep]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('misterno', 'G')iven the oil price today, that means every oil producer except SA and gulf countries (excl Iran) are losing money.

Isn't that right?

[MisterB]

Just decided to do something I have never done before...post in the new members post here section.

Stumbled across this site about 5 mins after reading Last Light.

I had already decided that things were going downhill pretty (are we allowed to swear on this forum) quickly. Coming from the UK, a country that struggled to feed itself during world war 2 when there were about 20-30million less people, where we buy food from abroad with faith based money (what happens when people loose faith in it?).

I have been aware of the idea of peak oil (I think) for a while, but not given it too much thought. Maybe I have been giving it a bit too much thought now for the past couple off days.

I have also just decided that I would like to keep bees. They are kind of hard to steal. Also if sugar is in short supply then honey may be in short supply. Though I have not figured out where to keep them since I cannot afford my own land.

I also like brackets (because otherwise I would end up using too many commas)

[Aaron]

Welcome Mr. B [if that is your real name],



Bees are good... so is knowledge.

Nice work so far...

[Last_Historian]

Hi MisterB,

Good luck.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/e ... 604401.ece

You might need it.

[dunewalker]

Welcome, MisterB. I also just finished reading "Last Light"--couldn't put it down, very compelling as well as depressing. Keep us informed about the state of affairs in your world.

[POAlex]

Welcome, MisterB.

Alex

[gissele]

Hi, I am Gissel from CA. I have been looking around this forum since from last two weeks and found this forum very informative. Hoping for good times here with mates.

[Quinny]

Hi

Hows things out therein CA? According to many on here it's starting to get rough.

[Franny]

I first found out about peak oil in the summer of 2005. I was working on a creative project about the future, and did a lot of research for that. The two biggest problems that seemed insurmountable to me were peak oil and climate change. My life at that point - living in NYC, working in the arts - seemed pretty unsustainable. I wanted to do more community-oriented work.

I remember when I first started reading about it, that August of 2005, I was completely alarmed and suggested to relatives living here (in NY) that we should move to the homestead of where my parents are living, in the countryside of a remote part of the U.K. I was greeted with disbelief - no go.

Anyway, somehow other things took precedence - I moved upstate a little, and became enmeshed in the community in this quaint little town. I forgot about PO for a while. Got a job teaching at a small college that lasted for a year, then lost it.

Fast forward to today... over the past week, it has hit me hard, and I've been researching like crazy. After almost two long years of unemployment, I have a great interview coming up for a job here, at another college. I like the community I'm in, and being around my friends. However, I can't get it out of my head that I'd be better off moving to the U.K. and establishing myself there, sooner rather than later. The area that my parents are in is quite rural, surrounded by farms. I could possibly pick up a trade, and start making friends with the locals. While I don't have savings, I don't have debts. Unfortunately, it is unlikely I could get a college position over there. But I keep thinking that whatever earnings I would make if I actually got the teaching job here in NY doesn't outweigh the likely societal collapse... and heavily armed/criminal elements around here. (There's already an almost daily shooting or stabbing!) Not to mention the consequences of folks fleeing the big city...

The UK spot isn't without its woes... there is a history of criminality in the area there as well, but it feels instinctively safer. One of the other downsides, though, is its a fairly religiousy area, and I am not particularly religiousy... I know I will miss the big cities... but, so it goes.

Anyway - I have scoured these forums many times and found much insight and provoking thought here. Thank you one and all.

[LNC]

Hi, everyone. I'm Nick, a 19 year old Canadian mechanical engineering student.

I am concerned about peak oil and its implications, but I am an optimist; there is a lot of room for consumption cuts in North America without undermining key infrastructure.

I am aware of the need for a large human dieoff, and I am aware of the range of ways in which that could happen; the most positive (and least likely) being a large birth rate decrease, but I am fairly confident that things will not be as bad in North America compared to some other parts of the world considering the small fraction of our current oil imports which is necessary to grow food (Assuming people decrease their meat consumption and fast food becomes a thing of the past).

Worrying about total collapse scenarios like the most die-hard doomers do is silly; if they happen, then most people will die and survival will come down to luck and will to live. Worrying about these outcomes is about as useful as worrying about a meteor strike eradicating life on this planet; even if you are correct you cannot change the outcome.

Anyway, I prefer to think about the worst outcome in which I have a reasonable chance of survival and a decent quality of life; thinking about doom scenarios is not very useful.

[Pops]

Hi LNC and welcome.

I agree with your thoughts, with one caveat:

Planning for something less than the "Worst Case" does seem prudent don't you think?


No need to "Bunker UP" just plan on making some provisions...

[LNC]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pops', 'H')i LNC and welcome.

I agree with your thoughts, with one caveat:

Planning for something less than the "Worst Case" does seem prudent don't you think?


No need to "Bunker UP" just plan on making some provisions...