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So did anyone actually listen to Roccman?

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Re: So did anyone actually listen to Roccman?

Unread postby outcast » Mon 09 Feb 2009, 08:25:14

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Narz', '
')I just want to see this forum get some respect. If all we can do is say "oil is running out, therefore we're doomed" no one will take us seriously.


That's all you see here at p.o.com? We seem to be reading different messageboards. Many here people are doing a lot more than just saying "we're doomed." Many are taking active steps to change their lives, help their families and their communities.




That isn't all that still is a large part. What we see is mostly "we're doomed, head for the hills, and outfit your doomstead before it's too late!" Given that so many have already taken such steps themselves because they are doomers it isn't hard to imagine them spreading the doom as much as possible.
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Re: So did anyone actually listen to Roccman?

Unread postby Narz » Mon 09 Feb 2009, 14:14:16

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Narz', '
')I just want to see this forum get some respect. If all we can do is say "oil is running out, therefore we're doomed" no one will take us seriously.


That's all you see here at p.o.com? We seem to be reading different messageboards. Many here people are doing a lot more than just saying "we're doomed." Many are taking active steps to change their lives, help their families and their communities.

Yeah, in the "Planning for the Future" subforum & a bit in the "Welcome" subforum.

That's one of the reasons I stay (that & the entertainment value).

Unfortunately many of the long-term survival plans involve 500lb bags of rice & lots of guns & a copy of Crude Awakening looping over & over again inside their heads. This type of thing isn't serving them or their communities.

Learning skills, sharing knowledge, I'm all about that. Except many shun any skills or knowledge that doesn't sound "green" to them (computers are not part of a sustainable future, etc.).
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Re: So did anyone actually listen to Roccman?

Unread postby Pretorian » Mon 09 Feb 2009, 17:46:27

there is nothing wrong with having 500 lbs of rice and lots of guns. With additives, its 2 years worth of food. Even if nothing ever happens, this is a pretty cheap insurance.
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Re: So did anyone actually listen to Roccman?

Unread postby Pops » Mon 09 Feb 2009, 18:06:52

I know not many here are into country music but there is a song titled: "I'm So Much Cooler Online".

I think many of us are not only much more idealistic than in RL but we also are more prone to share our successes than our failures.


In answer to the question of the thread I didn't follow roc's advise but I didn't follow my own either.

I did OK using a CC as capital to raise feeder steers from birth, did ok but didn't see the commodity bubble jacking up grain prices in 07-08 and depressing feeder prices - which is my market. I didn't see the following WWDII coming to chop feeder prices more, which between the two took about 40% off my receipts.

I didn't see cheese exports diving for the same reason, cutting raw milk prices in half and causing dairymen to start sending thousands of cows to slaughter which will shave probably another 20% off my market in the next year or two.

Point being, for 2 years I did fine using short term debt to finance my little deal but my balance sheet is currently In The Red with little relief in sight because beef/dairy/depressions don't turn overnight.


So there you go: no guns, no rice, no doom, no idealism, no cool, no success.
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Re: So did anyone actually listen to Roccman?

Unread postby Newfie » Mon 09 Feb 2009, 20:26:38

Well Pops I'm pretty much with you on this one.

I didin't see the collapse of the energy sector and bought into it with what free cash I had.

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Re: So did anyone actually listen to Roccman?

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Mon 09 Feb 2009, 20:59:57

Some Japanese Senator named Tamura said that what we have is a situation of hyper deflation so what is needed is a policy of hyperinflation. In other words, all bets are off. There is no way to make any kind of rational decision in such an unstable environment. Anything can happen and no one knows what's next. Roccman may have the last laugh.
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