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Re: Best countries for buying a wife

Unread postby blukatzen » Tue 03 Feb 2009, 16:34:17

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('oowolf', '.')....."dogged persistence"....

...is true love.....

Congrats Oowolf, and all the best to you and your lady.
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Re: Best countries for buying a wife

Unread postby Madpaddy » Tue 03 Feb 2009, 17:27:15

oowolf,

My best wishes. I don't know you or your friend but that news made me feel good. Thanks.
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Re: Best countries for buying a wife

Unread postby Heineken » Tue 03 Feb 2009, 21:39:16

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('blukatzen', 'L')et's get back to topic, ok. This thread is about Heineken and his future.

That's extremely sweet of you, Blu, but I'd like to think the thread could also be for other people in my situation.

Admittedly, I have some characteristics that are fairly unusual. For instance, the ten-year relationship I was in, which has now ended was with a MAN.

How do I explain that to potential woman-mates? Potentially it stirs up a nest of vipers. Should I lie, or at least varnish the truth? Obviously not, but telling the truth drastically diminishes the already small population of women available to me (locally at least) as candidate mates.

For the record: I don't have a sexist bone in me, despite whatever sexist comments I have made here or anywhere else (which were driven by anger, frustration, or humor). I have deep respect for women, and any lady that I'm lucky enough to end up with will be treated like a queen, not a slave or a collection of body parts.

OTOH: I do have some "issues" with women---issues that drove me away from them, at least in the past.
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Re: Best countries for buying a wife

Unread postby outcast » Tue 03 Feb 2009, 22:27:52

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'F')or instance, the ten-year relationship I was in, which has now ended was with a MAN.

You do realize that in traditional agricultural societies, such as what you want us to go back to, you would have been ostracized for having such a relationship right?
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Isn't that like someone saying "I'm not a racist" and then going off to say lots of racist stuff?
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Re: Best countries for buying a wife

Unread postby blukatzen » Wed 04 Feb 2009, 02:15:09

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'Y')ou do realize that in traditional agricultural societies, such as what you want us to go back to, you would have been ostracized for having such a relationship right?


Obviously you have not done much homework into traditional cultures and their acceptance of homosexuality or bisexuality in their cultures.

I had a very long response towards you, but I lost it as we are upgrading the system and I lost it as I hit "submit", still might post it tomorrow, but for the record, start reading here for some initial responses towards your point above.

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Re: Best countries for buying a wife

Unread postby outcast » Wed 04 Feb 2009, 03:55:25

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'O')bviously you have not done much homework into traditional cultures and their acceptance of homosexuality or bisexuality in their cultures.



From your link:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'M')y personal research into homosexuality in the Viking Age shows clearly that the Vikings had words (and therefore mental constructs and concepts) of same-sex activity; however since the needs of agricultural/pastoral living require reproduction not only to work the farm but also to provide support for the parent in old age, it was expected that no matter what one's affectional preferences were that each individual would marry and reproduce. There are no recorded instances of homosexual or lesbian couples in the Viking Age: moreover, the idea of living as an exclusively homosexual person did not exist in most cultures until present day Western civilization appeared.


And generally traditional monotheistic societies were extremely intolerant towards any form of homosexuality. I should have been more clear about that, but since we are referring to rural America this is the kind of society that is relevant.

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Yeah, lots of tolerance in those traditional, non-industrialized countries. :roll:


EDIT: And I'd also like to add that homosexual activity was illegal in the US until, starting in the '70's the laws against it started getting repealed.
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Re: Best countries for buying a wife

Unread postby Heineken » Wed 04 Feb 2009, 10:17:11

Gosh. Maybe I deserve the death penalty. Thanks for sharing this wonderful and highly relevant map, Outcast.
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Re: Best countries for buying a wife

Unread postby uNkNowN ElEmEnt » Thu 05 Feb 2009, 03:42:39

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('blukatzen', 'I') think many women here are in a PARTNERSHIP. I certainly am NOT a "glorified servant", in fact, my electrical engineer husband usually comes on Saturdays (yes, my company pays him) to help out at my garden centers, he helps unload plants, waters, helps customers, answers questions, fixes things, etc. He doesn't *have to*. He doesn't NEED the extra money he gets. (sure it helps, but it's not "survival money", for him, it's "ebay money").



Well, good for you. I wasn't talking for you or to you. When a thread is titled "buying a wife" somehow I don't think they were talking about women in the most respectful manner. Or that they were thinking about them in terms of a "partnership".

Afterall, I doubt he was referring to your individual case either.

I was replying in the same spirit that the title was implying, and I can say (having polled a number of women over the past couple days) that you are quite likely not in the majority of women.

Tell me what respect you could find with the concept as stated... preferably before you go off on someone for not holding the same oppinion as yourself.
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Re: Best countries for buying a wife

Unread postby outcast » Thu 05 Feb 2009, 04:22:01

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Heineken', 'G')osh. Maybe I deserve the death penalty. Thanks for sharing this wonderful and highly relevant map, Outcast.



Didn't say that. Just pointing out the consequences of living in agrarian monotheistic societies.
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Re: Best countries for buying a wife

Unread postby Ludi » Thu 05 Feb 2009, 11:27:13

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('blukatzen', '
')Obviously you have not done much homework into traditional cultures and their acceptance of homosexuality or bisexuality in their cultures.


I think he's just talking about monotheistic agricultural societies, not all the thousands of other cultures.
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Re: Best countries for buying a wife

Unread postby mos6507 » Thu 05 Feb 2009, 14:49:23

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Heineken', '
')How do I explain that to potential woman-mates?


I'd say it's no worse than explaining to your potential woman-mate that you think we're headed for zompocalypse and that instead of entering into the lap of 1st world luxury you're going to power down into an austerity not that different from the world she's leaving behind. Can you say.... bait and switch?
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Re: Best countries for buying a wife

Unread postby frankthetank » Thu 05 Feb 2009, 18:01:31

Heineken-

Listen to me. Here in Wisconsin, you'll get TWICE the woman for your money. These hogs will show you things you can't find on the internet. They'll teach you moves (and possibly do physical damage) that you didn't think your body was capable of. So take a trip northward and let one of my neighborhood girls test the suspension in that ole' Ford truck (or whatever you drive, don't worry, it'll need NEW suspension)...
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Re: Best countries for buying a wife

Unread postby Madpaddy » Thu 05 Feb 2009, 18:31:46

outcast,

you need a new colour on that map for Iceland who have just elected a lesbian prime minister.
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Re: Best countries for buying a wife

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Thu 05 Feb 2009, 19:25:48

"Buying a wife" is perhaps a poor choice of words. Buying a husband is a time honored tradition with dowries and such. Heineken, you need to get a good dowry with your new wife. I would think 50 grand should do it. Then again, is that a sale or a bribe? And maybe 50 grand is far too cheap. If you look up dowry and dower at wiki it gets quite confusing. Buying a wife, selling a wife, paying the bride's family, paying the groom's family; reminds me of the situation in California: Counties won't send tax money to the State and the State won't send funds to the counties.
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Re: Best countries for buying a wife

Unread postby da23 » Thu 05 Feb 2009, 20:46:14

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Madpaddy', 'o')utcast,

you need a new colour on that map for Iceland who have just elected a lesbian prime minister.


She looks ok, not a militant bull dyke and the people seem fine with it so far.
We have Mandelson, he farked up 3 times (officialy) so they made him a Lord.

PMS I'd buy you if I could get credit, and heineken sorry for the OT post just be careful ok those girls got tazers if you piss em off ;)
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Re: Best countries for buying a wife

Unread postby frankthetank » Thu 05 Feb 2009, 21:54:17

Girls up here don't like them small, so to be on the safe side...

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Re: Best countries for buying a wife

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Thu 05 Feb 2009, 22:11:01

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')PMS I'd buy you if I could get credit
I don't do windows. You can put your own damn TV dinner in the microwave oven & I've got a perpetual headache. You're going to have to vacuum the floor, scrub the toilet and buy me whatever I want or I'll take you to the cleaner for half and more of whatever pathetic little sum of worth you've got. I get the goldmine, you get the shaft.
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Re: Best countries for buying a wife

Unread postby Heineken » Thu 05 Feb 2009, 23:21:22

Since there's been so much concern about diction, I'd like to explain some of the motivation behind my "buying a wife" phrase.

In women's eyes, I'm badly tarnished by my past gay relationship. Partly as an experiment, I've already disclosed the fact of that relationship to a number of traditional American women met through the two online dating sites I'm currently subscribing to, and with whom I was in the process of establishing a good rapport before said disclosure.

Their reaction: A kind of indignant rage. Insults. Wild fears. One accused me of plotting to rape her son.

Thus I'm beginning to conclude that only nontraditional routes remain open to me.

Either that or I'll just give up.
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Re: Best countries for buying a wife

Unread postby SeaGypsy » Thu 05 Feb 2009, 23:24:43

Hi Heineken;
I don't like the title either; but I can give you some advice.
I live in the Philippines with my wife, who is 20 years younger than me, multi lingual, college educated, fantastic around the home and extremely jealous.
The truth is that you can come to Asia and almost take your choice.
The Philippines is easiest because of the visa laws and the fact all beurocracy is done in English.
Being a fit 52 year old and never married puts you in the highly sought after category of foreign husband.
On the other hand a lot of guys here go the library rout; (Why buy a book?).
You are right that we middle aged guys are virtual non entities in western countries. Unles we are super rich, and even then we know we can't trust much of what goes on around us.
Taking a wife into the states has become much more dificult lately with waits of up to 2 years normal; I have one friend who is still waiting after 4. The quickest way is to bring her in on a 'Prospective Marriage' visa, marry in the USA then apply for permanent. This can take about 4 months.
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Re: Best countries for buying a wife

Unread postby threadbear » Thu 05 Feb 2009, 23:25:52

You have to meet a woman who has been in a gay relationship who would like to try hetero. It can't be that difficult. You just have to define your demographic, cast your net and hope you don't catch a chick with a moustache and tatoos :lol:
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