[jasonraymondson]

Has any one on here been a RPCV What was your experience and would you recommend it.

I met with a peace corp recruiter tonight and I am really interested.

[max_power29]

"The Peace Corps, by the way, is basically a cover for mil-gov and corporate operations. They'll send a couple volunteers into a poor village that just so happens to be near an oil reserve or gold mine or something that they figure will be of great importance 10 or 20 years in the future. That's why there were all those Peace Corps volunteers sent in to Africa starting 30-to-40 years ago. The oil and weaons companies, the IMF, etc. all knew that African oil and resources would be extremely important in the future as more accessible reserves were depleted. So they take some bright eyed 24 year old, have them help the poor villagers for 2 years. Fast forward 20 years and the former volunteer is now working for one of those corporations or the IMF or World Bank creating psy-ops, excuse me "public relations" so that the village's oil reserves can be sold to Shell or Occidental.

It's all couched in terms of economic development that is purported to help pull the village out of poverty so the former Peace Corps volunteer, who has probably retained at least a bit of their youthful idealism, doesn't realize what is going on until they're in too deep and need the high paying job to pay for their kid to go to the liberal arts college. So by that time they will have rationalized whatever it is they're involved in.

Of course, not all or even the majority of former volunteers go on to work directly for MNCs. That's no big deal as their time in the Corps still serves, albeit indireclty, the interests of the MNCs.
The idea is to give the villagers a favorable connection to westerners so that when the World Bank and IMF show up the villagers are more open to them. Most likely the 43 year old MBA from Occidental Petroleum who shows up in 2007 looks and sounds darn similar, at least to the villagers, as the 23 year old liberal arts major Peace corps volunteer.who showed up back in 1987.

It's the same thing that missionaries did back in the 17th and 18th centuries. The missionaries would go in with good intentions and get on friendly terms with the natives for a generation or so. The natives get used to the westerners, even start to like them. Then, not coincidentally, the western MNCs move in 25-to-50 years later, kill off the villagers, and grab the resources.

If you want to learn mor about how this works, check out "Confessions of an Economic Hitman" for a more in-depth explanation of how this works.

If a person is of high character and wants to be of service there are plenty of ways to be of service within 100 miles of their location. But those opportunities haven't been given the prestige of the Peace Corps. Gee, I wonder why . . .

The people who volunteer for this sort of thing are usually big-hearted idealists and thus, by their very nature, tend not to be able to comprehend the truly sinister nature of what is going. And since it feels so good to help people while they're on their tour, it becomes even more impossible for their brain to understand what is really going on. "After all, how could helping poor people in the third wold be part of a larger plan so incredibly sinister?", the brain thinks to itself. The reality of the bigger picture conflicts with their experience during their 2 years so the brain can't quite come to grips with the truth."- Matt Savinar From LATOC

[big_rc]

Max_Power,

You do not know what you are talking about. As a matter of fact, if you were a Peace Corps volunteer then maybe you can talk, but if you were not then please be quiet.

Yes this is coming from a former Peace Corps volunteer with two years of service in West Africa. It was the best two years of my life and really opened my eyes to the good and bad of "development". I came in with a rather large group of people and only a handful are currently working for MNCs. Most are still save-the-world leftist idealists.

[max_power29]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('big_rc', 'M')ax_Power,

You do not know what you are talking about. As a matter of fact, if you were a Peace Corps volunteer then maybe you can talk, but if you were not then please be quiet.

Yes this is coming from a former Peace Corps volunteer with two years of service in West Africa. It was the best two years of my life and really opened my eyes to the good and bad of "development". I came in with a rather large group of people and only a handful are currently working for MNCs. Most are still save-the-world leftist idealists.

[jasonraymondson]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('max_power29', '"')The Peace Corps, by the way, is basically a cover for mil-gov and corporate operations. They'll send a couple volunteers into a poor village that just so happens to be near an oil reserve or gold mine or something that they figure will be of great importance 10 or 20 years in the future. That's why there were all those Peace Corps volunteers sent in to Africa starting 30-to-40 years ago. The oil and weaons companies, the IMF, etc. all knew that African oil and resources would be extremely important in the future as more accessible reserves were depleted. So they take some bright eyed 24 year old, have them help the poor villagers for 2 years. Fast forward 20 years and the former volunteer is now working for one of those corporations or the IMF or World Bank creating psy-ops, excuse me "public relations" so that the village's oil reserves can be sold to Shell or Occidental.

It's all couched in terms of economic development that is purported to help pull the village out of poverty so the former Peace Corps volunteer, who has probably retained at least a bit of their youthful idealism, doesn't realize what is going on until they're in too deep and need the high paying job to pay for their kid to go to the liberal arts college. So by that time they will have rationalized whatever it is they're involved in.

Of course, not all or even the majority of former volunteers go on to work directly for MNCs. That's no big deal as their time in the Corps still serves, albeit indireclty, the interests of the MNCs.
The idea is to give the villagers a favorable connection to westerners so that when the World Bank and IMF show up the villagers are more open to them. Most likely the 43 year old MBA from Occidental Petroleum who shows up in 2007 looks and sounds darn similar, at least to the villagers, as the 23 year old liberal arts major Peace corps volunteer.who showed up back in 1987.

It's the same thing that missionaries did back in the 17th and 18th centuries. The missionaries would go in with good intentions and get on friendly terms with the natives for a generation or so. The natives get used to the westerners, even start to like them. Then, not coincidentally, the western MNCs move in 25-to-50 years later, kill off the villagers, and grab the resources.

If you want to learn mor about how this works, check out "Confessions of an Economic Hitman" for a more in-depth explanation of how this works.

If a person is of high character and wants to be of service there are plenty of ways to be of service within 100 miles of their location. But those opportunities haven't been given the prestige of the Peace Corps. Gee, I wonder why . . .

The people who volunteer for this sort of thing are usually big-hearted idealists and thus, by their very nature, tend not to be able to comprehend the truly sinister nature of what is going. And since it feels so good to help people while they're on their tour, it becomes even more impossible for their brain to understand what is really going on. "After all, how could helping poor people in the third wold be part of a larger plan so incredibly sinister?", the brain thinks to itself. The reality of the bigger picture conflicts with their experience during their 2 years so the brain can't quite come to grips with the truth."- Matt Savinar From LATOC

[MattSavinar]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('big_rc', 'M')ax_Power,

You do not know what you are talking about. As a matter of fact, if you were a Peace Corps volunteer then maybe you can talk, but if you were not then please be quiet.

Yes this is coming from a former Peace Corps volunteer with two years of service in West Africa. It was the best two years of my life and really opened my eyes to the good and bad of "development". I came in with a rather large group of people and only a handful are currently working for MNCs. Most are still save-the-world leftist idealists.

[jasonraymondson]

We can all have conspiracy theories. But until you come up with proof.

[MattSavinar]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jasonraymondson', '
')
All you seem to be doing is respreading crap, that he doesn't have the sources to back up.

How about you come with some information on your own before spewing someone elses BS

[jasonraymondson]

Have you ever heard of Georgia, use to be in what was once the OLD Soviet Union. This is where I am going.


Please explain off that one to me.

Not a great deal of oil in Georgia

[roccman]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MattSavinar', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jasonraymondson', '
')
All you seem to be doing is respreading crap, that he doesn't have the sources to back up.

How about you come with some information on your own before spewing someone elses BS

[MattSavinar]

Jason,

From Perkin's book, sorry to burst your bubble. It's important you know the truth so you don't recommend that other people (unknowingly) make the same mistake. As you already said it was the best 2 years of life, I'm going to guess you've encouraged others to sign up. Oh well.

As I explained up top, it is not usually explicit. the peace corps volunteer has no direct connections to the CIA/NSA or MNCs and in fact would probably be abhorred by such connections. (There are actually laws/regulations to prevent this, as I'm sure you know.) It works better that they don't know what they're being used for.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')fter he graduated from Boston University, John was hired by the NSA who ran him through a series of tests, lie detector tests, psychological tests, etc., all in his last year of college. And then he was "encouraged" by the NSA to join the Peace Corps.

Now, as I recall from a phone conversation I had with Perkins shortly after his first book came out, it was his ex-wife's father who encouraged him to join the Peace Corps, where he and his wife were sent to Ecuador to "live with indigenous people in the Amazon and the Andes, people who today and at that time were beginning to fight the oil companies." He goes onto say on the Amy Goodman program that the experience, "was incredibly good training for what I was to do" implying that yes, the NSA was using the Peace Corps to train their future spies.

Next, he says, "while I was still in the Peace Corps, I was brought in and recruited into a US private corporation called Charles T. Main. It was here that he learned how to be an "economic hit man."

In his book, Perkins gives examples of what he means from the Congo, Lebanon, Latin America, and he begins always by linking his Peace Corps years with his career of destroying third world countries.

[MattSavinar]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jasonraymondson', 'H')ave you ever heard of Georgia, use to be in what was once the OLD Soviet Union. This is where I am going.


Please explain off that one to me.

Not a great deal of oil in Georgia

[MattSavinar]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jasonraymondson', '
')
We can all have conspiracy theories. But until you come up with proof.

[ohanian]

Missionaria Protectiva

The Bene Gesserit practice "religious engineering" through a faction called the Missionaria Protectiva, which spreads contrived myths, prophecies and superstition (collectively known as Panoplia Prophetica) among the populations of the Empire. A Bene Gesserit may then later take advantage of the prophecies, casting herself as a guide, protector, or some other figure in fulfillment of the prophecy, in order to manipulate the religious subjects for protection or other purposes. These myths also exploit religion as a powerful force in human society; by controlling the particulars of religion, the Bene Gesserit have a manipulative lever on society in general.

[jasonraymondson]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ohanian', 'M')issionaria Protectiva

The Bene Gesserit practice "religious engineering" through a faction called the Missionaria Protectiva, which spreads contrived myths, prophecies and superstition (collectively known as Panoplia Prophetica) among the populations of the Empire. A Bene Gesserit may then later take advantage of the prophecies, casting herself as a guide, protector, or some other figure in fulfillment of the prophecy, in order to manipulate the religious subjects for protection or other purposes. These myths also exploit religion as a powerful force in human society; by controlling the particulars of religion, the Bene Gesserit have a manipulative lever on society in general.

[MattSavinar]

Greetings from LATOC!

I'm bumping this as the PC is a topic of discussion over at LATOC and I linked this thread there too:

link

Note that the OP here in this trhead said to me "matt you don't know what you're talking about. they're going to send me to Georgia. No oil there! stop spreading conspiracy theories!"

Well there was a pipeline (as I pointed out back in 2007) and now that Georgia has been in what even the MSM acknowledged was an energy war with Russia last year maybe this will teach people a lesson: do some research before making life changing decisions.

[Chuckmak]

Why in the blue f*ck are you bringing up 15 month old posts, Matt? Really. C'mon now.

[jasonraymondson]

yes, thanks for bringing up a post in where i horribly humiliated myself through stupidty and naiveness.