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Cause & effect: riots, rioting and rioters pt 1 (merged) Arc
Re: Russian Peasants Storm the Kremlin
by ReverseEngineer » Sun 01 Feb 2009, 10:21:53
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('RdSnt', 'A')n example of this is the recent husband/wife murder suicides. Why do they take their children as well? It's a selfish and depraved denial of a future and a rejection that their children should have a better/different life than their own.
Is that really true? In the parade of history as one group of people enslaved another, as the battles came to a close and those who knew they were lost had to make a choice between Slavery or Death for their children, MANY mothers put their children under the knife. Is this so much different?
If these folks perceive NO HOPE for themselves, if all is lost to them, if THEY can no longer feed and protect their children, WHO will? In some places already, some parents sell their children to the slave trade. Is that less "selfish" then dispatching them?
It is difficult to understand the level of desperation some folks already are in. We all acknowledge here that the earth is in overshoot, and some if not most will have to die. Some are CHOOSING to die, because the alternative of life isn't very good anymore. Their children are helpless, and no one will save them either, rather they are more likely to be used and abused. And so off goes the whole family into the Great Beyond.
I think to lay on these folks that they are "selfish" really does them an injustice. Its not a choice anyone ever would want to make, but this is a Hobson's Choice for them, which is no choice at all really.
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Re: Russian Peasants Storm the Kremlin
by StormBringer » Sun 01 Feb 2009, 10:24:35
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('RdSnt', 'Y')es at some point I would think Americans will actually shift the overfed behinds enough to protest, but how long will that take? --snip-- An example of this is the recent husband/wife murder suicides. Why do they take their children as well? It's a selfish and depraved denial of a future and a rejection that their children should have a better/different life than their own
What is this bash America and Americans day???Thats not even what this thread was about.
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Re: Bookies taking bets on cities that will riot...
by Aimrehtopyh » Sun 01 Feb 2009, 12:17:50
Did anyone mention Miami yet? It's probably a long shot, but I would say it's just as ripe as most of the other cities they named.
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Re: Bookies taking bets on cities that will riot...
by Quinny » Sun 01 Feb 2009, 12:50:25
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Re: Russian Peasants Storm the Kremlin
by Dreamtwister » Sun 01 Feb 2009, 14:22:13
You do realize that Vladivostok is like 6400km from the Kermlin, right?
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Re: Russian Peasants Storm the Kremlin
by eXpat » Sun 01 Feb 2009, 15:05:10
Vladimir Putin faces signs of mutiny in own government as protests break out in east
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'S')ubordinates have begun openly to defy Mr Putin, a man whose diktat has inspired fear and awe in the echelons of power for nine years, according to government sources. Meanwhile a rift is emerging between Mr Putin and President Dmitry Medvedev, the figurehead whom he groomed as his supposedly pliant successor.
As Russia's economy begins to implode after years of energy-driven growth, Mr Putin is facing the germs of an unexpected power struggle which could hamper his ambition to project Russian might abroad.
Mounting job losses and a collapse in the price of commodities have triggered social unrest on a scale not seen for at least four years, prompting panic among Kremlin officials more accustomed to the political apathy of the Russian people.
The unease was deepened yesterday after thousands of protestors marched through the Pacific port city of Vladivostok and other cities, including Moscow, demanding Mr Putin's resignation for his handling of the flailing Russian economy.
Up to one million Russians are estimated by financial analysts to have lost their jobs over the past two months, and the economy is expected to shrink by up to three per cent this year. Meanwhile the Russian rouble has been falling steadily against other currencies for months, making it the world's third worst performing currency this year, and industry is disintegrating.
"I was furious when I heard Putin speaking fairy tales in Davos about how our economy is under control," said Yevgeny Antipov, a 21-year-old student in Vladivostok, insisting that he was not afraid to be marching against the government for the first time.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'S')ubordinates have begun openly to defy Mr Putin, a man whose diktat has inspired fear and awe in the echelons of power for nine years, according to government sources. Meanwhile a rift is emerging between Mr Putin and President Dmitry Medvedev, the figurehead whom he groomed as his supposedly pliant successor.
As Russia's economy begins to implode after years of energy-driven growth, Mr Putin is facing the germs of an unexpected power struggle which could hamper his ambition to project Russian might abroad.
Mounting job losses and a collapse in the price of commodities have triggered social unrest on a scale not seen for at least four years, prompting panic among Kremlin officials more accustomed to the political apathy of the Russian people.
The unease was deepened yesterday after thousands of protestors marched through the Pacific port city of Vladivostok and other cities, including Moscow, demanding Mr Putin's resignation for his handling of the flailing Russian economy.
Up to one million Russians are estimated by financial analysts to have lost their jobs over the past two months, and the economy is expected to shrink by up to three per cent this year. Meanwhile the Russian rouble has been falling steadily against other currencies for months, making it the world's third worst performing currency this year, and industry is disintegrating.
"I was furious when I heard Putin speaking fairy tales in Davos about how our economy is under control," said Yevgeny Antipov, a 21-year-old student in Vladivostok, insisting that he was not afraid to be marching against the government for the first time.
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Re: Bookies taking bets on cities that will riot...
by davep » Sun 01 Feb 2009, 17:00:29
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Quinny', '[')url=http://www.break.com/usercontent/2009/2/Riots-Paris-01-30-2009-660213.html]This doesn't count then.[/url]
I'm starting to sulk!
I'm starting to sulk!
Nope! That was merely the afters of an organised protest. Doesn't count, I'm afraid...
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