[Pops]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Aaron', ' ')If there's any blame to go around, it's us voting citizens who put some of these guys in power, not our military, who should receive the blame.

[rattleshirt]

I am glad to live where I live and love my land and my friends and family. I consider all nation-states and these bizarre corporate entities to be enemies of freedom and usurpers of power. Though the degree varies. Nonetheless, for me my loyalty is to my people and land and I will act as best for them. Note: When I say land I mean presicely that.


"And the Laird has a smile,
For the makers of graves,
The builders of Empire,
The takers of slaves.
For he's kept his great house,
loosing nothing but
Pride,
While his kinsmen
they huddle
Along the shoreside.

For there's fire in the Glen...

So beware of our banners,
And their Generals lies,
There's no glory for the poor man,
No glittering prize."

From the song "Fire in the Glen"

[Quinny]

So if your country commits international war crimes you should be proud?

and if you're not, you should leave the country?

Surely as a patriot you should stay and try and sort the situation out!

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AlexdeLarge', 'A')s an American, regardless of your political persuasion or beliefs, if you find you cannot be proud of your Country on this day........you have a serious problem and should consider other abodes.

[mos6507]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Quinny', '
')Surely as a patriot you should stay and try and sort the situation out!

[Quinny]

The operative word was TRY.

As a socialist in a capitalist system, I've been trying for years.

[Pops]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Quinny', 'S')o if your country commits international war crimes you should be proud?

[Schmuto]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pops', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Aaron', ' ')If there's any blame to go around, it's us voting citizens who put some of these guys in power, not our military, who should receive the blame.

[Nickel]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('GASMON', 'W')e Brits were once the worlds policeman. Now its the turn of the USA. Would you trust the Russians or Chinese in a similar role ??.

[Heineken]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pops', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Quinny', 'S')o if your country commits international war crimes you should be proud?

[Quinny]

Churchill - sends troops against miners. Sounds like 'Little Steel'

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Nickel', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('GASMON', 'W')e Brits were once the worlds policeman. Now its the turn of the USA. Would you trust the Russians or Chinese in a similar role ??.

[Pops]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Heineken', 'B')ut to what do "we" aspire?

[Heineken]

Pops, you know my aspirations if you've read my posts.

A carless world of walkable, human-scale small towns full of cottage industries, surrounded by small, family-run organic farms, surrounded in turn by large belts of wilderness before you get to the next small town. A few larger, truly green cities. Everything connected by trains. Minimal government and an emphasis on localism, self-determination, and individual freedom.

Values that frown on growth and would actually celebrate and reward downsizing and deinstitutionalization.

Not what we have, and not what Obama aspires to, which amounts to mo' of the same, or a desperate effort to get back to where we were as an engine of infinite "growth."

[vision-master]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'N')ot what we have, and not what Obama aspires to, which amounts to mo' of the same, or a desperate effort to get back to where we were as an engine of infinite "growth."

[Byron100]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Heineken', 'P')ops, you know my aspirations if you've read my posts.

[b]A carless world of walkable, human-scale small towns full of cottage industries, surrounded by small, family-run organic farms, surrounded in turn by large belts of wilderness before you get to the next small town. A few larger, truly green cities. Everything connected by trains. Minimal government and an emphasis on localism, self-determination, and individual freedom.

Values that frown on growth and would actually celebrate and reward downsizing and deinstitutionalization.[/b}

Not what we have, and not what Obama aspires to, which amounts to mo' of the same, or a desperate effort to get back to where we were as an engine of infinite "growth."

[Heineken]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Byron100', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Heineken', 'P')ops, you know my aspirations if you've read my posts.

[b]A carless world of walkable, human-scale small towns full of cottage industries, surrounded by small, family-run organic farms, surrounded in turn by large belts of wilderness before you get to the next small town. A few larger, truly green cities. Everything connected by trains. Minimal government and an emphasis on localism, self-determination, and individual freedom.

Values that frown on growth and would actually celebrate and reward downsizing and deinstitutionalization.[/b}

Not what we have, and not what Obama aspires to, which amounts to mo' of the same, or a desperate effort to get back to where we were as an engine of infinite "growth."

[Nickel]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('GASMON', 'B')ut for Winston we would be drinking cool and clear german beer instead of luke warm cloudy bitter, driving BMW's and Mercedes instead of Rovers and eating many varied varieties of sausages instead of spam. !!!!!!!

[Nickel]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Heineken', 'A') carless world of walkable, human-scale small towns full of cottage industries, surrounded by small, family-run organic farms, surrounded in turn by large belts of wilderness before you get to the next small town. A few larger, truly green cities. Everything connected by trains. Minimal government and an emphasis on localism, self-determination, and individual freedom.

[bratticus]

just eat your toxic peanut butter and shut up