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Re: PeakOiler's Grass Fire Pics

Unread postby PeakOiler » Mon 29 Dec 2008, 22:21:14

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jotapay', 'M')y best prediction, using my Geology degree (paleo-climatology, etc.) and other science classes that I took, is that climate change is going to accentuate the severity of historical weather patterns. Drier regions will get drier, wetter years will get wetter, etc. We in Central Texas are in a transition zone, between wetter coastal regions and the drier interior, so we will see the effect of both drier and wetter extremes, depending on which is dominant at the time.

Last year (record rain and floods) and this year (scant rain at all) are not that unexpected when using this model. I think that we will have to be able to weather long drought and intense rainy periods in the future if we want to prosper in this area. Luckily we are not in extremely close proximity to the violent Gulf of Mexico, but close enough to get adequate humidity from it and the resultant rainfall over the long term.

Another effect of climate change towards a hot house environment is that the tropical latitude bands are going to expand away from the equator. So the tropical weather patterns and rainfall that they bring are going to move farther northwards into the USA, making it slightly more tropical in the southern states.


I hope your prediction is right, but I still think we're talking decades, not years, if at all.

Nuclear winter could change all that.
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Re: PeakOiler's Grass Fire Pics

Unread postby Jotapay » Tue 30 Dec 2008, 00:56:59

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PeakOiler', 'I') hope your prediction is right, but I still think we're talking decades, not years, if at all. Nuclear winter could change all that.

Yes, I don't care to place a precise time frame on it since that is impossible to do with any precision.

But the hot-house trend in which we find ourselves is undeniable. It started 11,00 years ago at the peak of the last ice age.

In my opinion, we are starting to see the effect of human-induced climate change in a very pronounced way. The "if at all" part has already begun. It won't happen all at once, but my best guess is that 50-120 years from now all the ice on the poles and most of the world's glaciers will be gone.

Scientific aside: The scary thing is, if we keep adding greenhouse gasses to the atmosphere once the maximum historical hothouse environment has been achieved (no polar icecaps, jungles everywhere), what do you think will happen then? You can't just keep adding heat to the world and expect it not to turn into Mars.

edit: You have a electron microscope image of a pollen or sand grain as your avatar. You are a scientist or an engineer, no?

As one of my last hurrahs at the Uni of Texas, I worked for a legendary professor there, as his slave, more or less. I was able to work on the UT Geology department's electron microscope and worked on nannobacteria (sic) and such. Those were some of the most valuable experiences I've had in my life, bar none.
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Re: PeakOiler's Grass Fire Pics

Unread postby PeakOiler » Wed 31 Dec 2008, 09:07:33

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jotapay', '
')edit: You have a electron microscope image of a pollen or sand grain as your avatar. You are a scientist or an engineer, no?

As one of my last hurrahs at the Uni of Texas, I worked for a legendary professor there, as his slave, more or less. I was able to work on the UT Geology department's electron microscope and worked on nannobacteria (sic) and such. Those were some of the most valuable experiences I've had in my life, bar none.


Very good guess Jotapay. Answer here: About my avatar

Our lab is about to get a new SEM. The images will be much better than with that old 1994 TopCon SEM.

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Re: PeakOiler's Grass Fire Pics

Unread postby Ludi » Wed 31 Dec 2008, 11:28:08

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PeakOiler', '
')I hope your prediction is right, but I still think we're talking decades, not years, if at all.



Jotapay's prediction is in line with the "official" predictions for our region (I'll find a link if you need one). More extremes in this land of extremes. 8O

Back to fires: it never hurts to repost these links


http://www.firesafecouncil.org/education/landscaping/


http://www.usfa.dhs.gov/downloads/pdf/fswy12.pdf
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Re: PeakOiler's Grass Fire Pics

Unread postby PeakOiler » Wed 31 Dec 2008, 11:40:57

Thanks for the links, Ludi. They just got bookmarked.

Taken Saturday:

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Re: PeakOiler's Grass Fire Pics

Unread postby PeakOiler » Wed 31 Dec 2008, 17:05:18

Below are a couple more pictures taken Saturday:

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The whiteout below is from the smoke. At one point, my house was in a smoke whiteout too. I am going to give the Bertram Fire Department crew a few cases of beer and a cash donation for their efforts. :)

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Re: PeakOiler's Grass Fire Pics

Unread postby PeakOiler » Fri 09 Jan 2009, 19:34:35

Today I finally went by the local volunteer fire department with a case of beer for the firemen, but none of them drink!

I did give them a $100 check.

I was told the total amount of land that burned was closer to 290 acres, not 250 as reported by KXAN.

Was also told that the cause of the grass fire was an electrical short in some equipment near the water treatment plant.
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Re: PeakOiler's Grass Fire Pics

Unread postby JJ » Fri 09 Jan 2009, 21:54:50

Glad you survived that with no damage, P Oiler, it sure is dry. Aguy came into produce yesterday and said he got 2 inches of rain in Bertram, but I don't think it rained anywhere near that here in Burnet...it sure is dry. Softened the ground up enough I was able to till in some compost though. But I'm wondering it was so dry last year we were barely able to grow anything, wonder what this summers going to be like. Did you get that letter saying the water causes kidney and liver damage and cancer?
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Re: PeakOiler's Grass Fire Pics

Unread postby Ludi » Fri 09 Jan 2009, 22:27:11

Looks like we're supposed to have a warm, dry Spring and Summer, and a wetter Fall.

So, another tough gardening year. :(

http://www.almanac.com/weatherforecast/us/11
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Re: PeakOiler's Grass Fire Pics

Unread postby PeakOiler » Sat 10 Jan 2009, 08:58:08

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('JJ', 'D')id you get that letter saying the water causes kidney and liver damage and cancer?


No. What letter? Which water?
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