[Barbara]

Just found this on Indymedia Italy. No time to check it, I'm in a rush, but I think it's from an arabian source. Very scaring.
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Battle Raging Between Mujahideen and Saudi Arabia's Security Forces In Al-Rass
Apr 03, 2005 , JUS News Desk:
Numerous unconfirmed reports are coming in from Saudi Arabia that a fierce battle is currently underway in the town of Al-Rass near Buraidah Aunazah. The battle, which began this morning, is said to be still ongoing and that Saudi Arabian (Sulul) security forces are said to be using poison gas in an attempt to flush out the Mujahideen. At one point in the combat, the Mujahideen fired at a Sulul helicopter that was flying overhead, forcing it to increase altitude.
Medical sources say that so far at least 22 Sulul security agents have been admitted to the Al-Rass main hospital, some with serious injuries.
At the time of this filing, shots are still being fired and thick smoke is rising over the Al-Jawazat quarter of Al-Rass. Some reports suggest that Saleh al-Aoofi, the leader of Al-Qaida in the Arabian Peninsula is said to be in that area directing the battle however other reports say he may be among the casualties. One Saudi vehicle is still burning and a house has been completely demolished
The latest information indicates that a large reinforcement contingency has arrived from Anizah and that the entire town is now completely surrounded by Saudi Sulul forces. This is a developing story. More details are to come as they are available.

[leal]

Here is some more info about the gunbattle in Saudi.

[Tyler_JC]

Allah help us if this is the start of The Revolution. Gas at $4 a gallon will turn into the good old days if the Saudi royal family is kicked out of the country.

[mryan]

speculation is good for noone, just wait till there is more information.

[0mar]

If a revolution is made and the government is overthrown, it would be great news for the Saudi people. The royal family is one of the most corrupt and self-serving governments in that region for the last couple decades or so.

[Tyler_JC]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')f a revolution is made and the government is overthrown, it would be great news for the Saudi people. The royal family is one of the most corrupt and self-serving governments in that region for the last couple decades or so.

[RonMN]

what PERFECT timing!!! It's not that saudi has peaked...it was over-thrown...so we'll escalate the wars!

[Ebyss]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'S')crew Saudi suffering, think of your self!

[Tyler_JC]

Ireland uses oil too. Imagine tens of thousands of your fellow Irishmen losing their homes and being reduced to poverty. That's the situation we would look forward to if Saudi Arabia has a revolution.

It really has nothing to do with Nationalism. It has to do with self interest. It is against nearly everyone's self interest to have a revolution in Saudi Arabia. The only people who would benefit would be the leeches (the wealthy class that profits from everything) and the leaders of this revolution. Everyone else would suffer as a consequence.

It's a no-brainer for me. A Saudi revolution would be a disaster.

[Ebyss]

I know it would be a disaster, PO and it's aftermath will be a disaster. I think the outcome could/will be horrible. I'm afraid I can't share your "screw Saudi suffering" attitude (although I took this with a pinch of salt, I didn't think you were serious). Maybe I'm just at the "get it over with" stage. I'd still rather the whole thing didn't happen. But America busting into Saudi Arabia to sort out a problem that isn't any of it's business is just going to make things worse.

[shortonoil]

If SA goes offline the US will have all of Europe behind it. This time it wouldn't be an Iraq! There will be troops from every nation in the EU there.

[tokyo_to_motueka]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ebyss', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Tyler_JC', 'S')crew Saudi suffering, think of your self!

[Ebyss]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'H')ow did OUR OIL get under their sand?

[erl]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('shortonoil', 'I')f SA goes offline the US will have all of Europe behind it. This time it wouldn't be an Iraq! There will be troops from every nation in the EU there.

[gg3]

"Screw (someone else's) suffering, think only of yourself" is pure unadulterated evil, and there is no excuse for it. Shame! I can only hope that Tyler had his tongue in his cheek.

I doubt that the present situation is the beginning of revolution. Saudi security will probably capture & kill the terrorists, and the captured ones will get a dose of their own medicine by having their heads lopped off.

However I think we can expect to see a gradual increase in these incidents over time. Whether that adds up to revolution remains to be seen.

A revolution won by Al Qaeda or its equivalent, would be a shitty day for the Saudi people in any case. If there's anything that's worse than the present Wahhabi tyranny, it's the kind of tyranny that would result from an Al Qaeda revolution.

So in fact, what's bad for the industrialized world also turns out to be horrid for the Saudi people themselves.

Question is, would an "Al Qaeda Arabia" decide to turn off the taps out of spite, or would it keep the oil flowing in order to keep the revenues flowing? I don't think the answer is a foregone conclusion.

Either way, if the Saudi regime were toppled, yes, the industrialized world's armies would be in there in weeks if not days. Possibly not fast enough to prevent key oil facilities being sabotaged and wells set afire.

The US would have to institute a draft, and would have to rotate troops out of South Korea to deal with the emergency. This in turn would give North Korea an opening for more mischief, though probably not an overt invasion of the South.

China is an interesting question. What would China do...?

What I find most interesting is the fact that in the 21st Century, the course of human events is still being shaped by primitive passions. The passionate hatred that drives Al Qaeda to abuse religion as an excuse for atrocities; and the passionate gluttony that drives the Western world to abuse economics as an excuse for overshoot-and-collapse.

[Jack]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gg3', '"')Screw (someone else's) suffering, think only of yourself" is pure unadulterated evil, and there is no excuse for it. Shame! I can only hope that Tyler had his tongue in his cheek.

[Cyrus]

Is this not the domino needed to fall to start the 105 dolalr price spike!!!

[tokyo_to_motueka]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jack', 'O')n the contrary, gg3, on the contrary. Taking care of oneself is far from pure evil; rather, it is a rational adaptation to the demands of physical existence.

I regret to say that you will probably have need to recalibrate your definition of evil if future events unfold as a hard crash. Indeed, we all will.

[Jack]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('tokyo_to_motueka', '
')we kill them and invade their country and take the oil.

simple, no evil involved. just cold hard rationality.

eh, mr cheney?

[SidneyTawl]

Is this town or house in or near to an a oil producting area. Seems to me if its in an oil producing region, facility, then the gitters will be there. If its not, it could be interpreted as something good. The fact that the SA forces are going after the insurgency, and winning can easily be spun into a positive.

The fact that outright fighting has happened will not be as important to someone trying to spin this and finding a way to spin it as a positive.