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Re: Two More Bank failures tonight!

Unread postby frankthetank » Tue 30 Sep 2008, 08:58:22

SPG-

I stopped going to that site a couple months ago, but you are right. Marketwatch also has a large group of doomers. Someone yesterday was saying CNBC made mention of them? and called the posters "terrorists"...funny $hit!
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Re: Two More Bank failures tonight!

Unread postby yesplease » Tue 30 Sep 2008, 09:15:13

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('smallpoxgirl', 'O')ur only saving grace is that compared to tickerforum.org we look like shameless optimists.
To be fair, anyone who knows anything about the market knows that they have to push the lows in order to make the most off the highs.
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Re: Two More Bank failures tonight!

Unread postby seahorse2 » Wed 26 Nov 2008, 10:14:31

Nice update on the banking situation.


$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'G')rim FDIC Quarterly Banking Profile

Inquiring minds are looking at the FDIC Quarterly Banking Profile for the third quarter of 2008. Here are some highlights from the report:

* Asset-Quality Problems Continue to Depress Earnings
* Net Income of $1.7 Billion is Second-Lowest Since 1990
* Loan-Loss Rate Rises to 17-Year High
* Net Interest Margins Register Improvement
* Failures Are Highest Quarterly Total in 15 Years


Return On Assets .05 Percent

Expenses for credit losses topped $50 billion for a second consecutive quarter, absorbing one-third of the industry's net operating revenue (net interest income plus total noninterest income). Third quarter net income totaled $1.7 billion, a decline of $27.0 billion (94.0 percent) from the third quarter of 2007. The industry's quarterly return on assets (ROA) fell to 0.05 percent, compared to 0.92 percent a year earlier. This is the second-lowest quarterly ROA reported by the industry in the past 18 years.

Nine Failures in Third Quarter Include Washington Mutual Bank

The number of insured commercial banks and savings institutions fell to 8,384 in the third quarter, down from 8,451 at midyear. During the quarter, 73 institutions were absorbed in mergers, and 9 institutions failed. This is the largest number of failures in a quarter since the third quarter of 1993, when 16 insured institutions failed. Among the failures was Washington Mutual Bank, an insured savings institution with $307 billion in assets and the largest insured institution to fail in the FDIC's 75-year history. There were 21 new institutions chartered in the third quarter, the smallest number of new charters in a quarter since 17 new charters were added in the first quarter of 2002. Four insured savings institutions, with combined assets of $1.0 billion, converted from mutual ownership to stock ownership in the third quarter. The number of insured institutions on the FDIC's "Problem List" increased from 117 to 171, and the assets of "problem" institutions rose from $78.3 billion to $115.6 billion during the quarter. This is the first time since the middle of 1994 that assets of "problem" institutions have exceeded $100 billion.

Deposit Insurance Fund (DIF) Underfunded

The Deposit Insurance Fund (DIF) decreased by 23.5 percent ($10.6 billion) during the third quarter to $34,588 million (unaudited). Accrued assessment income increased the fund by $881 million. Interest earned, combined with realized and unrealized gains (losses) on securities, added $653 million to the insurance fund. Operating and other expenses, net of other revenue, reduced the fund by $233 million. The reduction in the DIF was primarily due to an $11.9 billion increase in loss provisions for bank failures.

The DIF’s reserve ratio equaled 0.76 percent on September 30, 2008, down from 1.01 percent at June 30, 2008 and 1.22 percent one year ago. The September figure is the lowest reserve ratio for the combined bank and thrift insurance fund since June 30, 1994, when the reserve ratio was 0.74 percent.

DIF Restoration Plan

Recent bank failures significantly increased the Deposit Insurance Fund’s losses, resulting in a decline in the reserve ratio. As of September 30, 2008, the reserve ratio stood at 0.76 percent, down from 1.01 percent at June 30 and 1.19 percent at March 31. The Federal Deposit Insurance Reform Act of 2005 (the Reform Act) requires that the FDIC’s Board of Directors adopt a restoration plan when the Deposit Insurance Fund reserve ratio falls below 1.15 percent or is expected to within 6 months.

Absent extraordinary circumstances, the restoration plan must provide that the reserve ratio increase to at least 1.15 percent no later than five years after the plan’s establishment. The FDIC Board adopted a restoration plan on October 7.

24% of Institutions Reported a Net Loss

Almost one in every four institutions (24.1 percent) reported a net loss for the quarter, the highest percentage in any quarter since the fourth quarter of 1990, and the highest percentage in a third quarter in the 24 years that all insured institutions have reported quarterly earnings.

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All of the above text and charts with the exception of a few bold headlines is from the report.

The trend is clear and that trend is a rapid deterioration of asset values, earnings, and income. Looking ahead, chargeoffs are going to soar from already high levels in response to rapidly rising unemployment.

The financial sector bottom is not in. And until the financial sector bottom is in, it is unlikely that the overall market bottom is in. Look for fresh lows in 2009 after a technical rally that may last for the remainder of the year.

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Re: Two More Bank failures tonight!

Unread postby Specop_007 » Wed 26 Nov 2008, 10:44:06

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('OilFinder2', 'I')'d heard of Indymac, but not the others. Not sure if Freddie and Fannie are actual "banks," but I suppose you could call them that if you wanted to.

This won't be the first time a bunch of banks have failed. And it won't be the last, either. Oh well.


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Re: Two More Bank failures tonight!

Unread postby DefiledEngine » Wed 26 Nov 2008, 11:15:22

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
')This is a doomer forum. It's packed to overflowing with morbid, negative, defeatist doomers. The darker our prognostications, the more strokes, points, and compliments we get. Many are champing at the bit for total anarchy to ensue as soon as possible.


It wasn't always like that. Many here had high hopes for how people soon would see the errors of unsustainability, and that a green utopia would form powered by food gardens around every outhouse, feelings of superiority from not using oil and fusion. I guess being slapped by the reality of how ignorance and unwillingness to change by "the machine" again and again has renders anyone unable to get thier jollies off unless they hear about another bank drowning or another western country teetering on collapse.
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Re: Two More Bank failures tonight!

Unread postby IslandCrow » Wed 26 Nov 2008, 11:26:54

Nice report Seahorse. From the charts in Mish's page I see that the even in the early stages of this crisis the amount of FID-insured deposits has increased in the latest quarter from $4 465 139 million, to $4 543 752, a 1,76% increase.

It looks like more money is flowing into banks...OR...businesses are getting smart and spreading their accounts around more of what money they have is FID-covered.

On the idea of banking with different banks, when I started working here in Finland many companies would bank with 5 or 6 different banks. Over the years most companies have concentrated their accounts in just one banking group. I guess the feeling is that they expect the government to bail them out if one of the big banks fails. This concentration is in my opinion a bad move, but our insurance cover is so much smaller than in the States.
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Re: Two More Bank failures tonight!

Unread postby bratticus » Thu 27 Nov 2008, 20:45:45

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('DefiledEngine', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
')This is a doomer forum. It's packed to overflowing with morbid, negative, defeatist doomers. The darker our prognostications, the more strokes, points, and compliments we get. Many are champing at the bit for total anarchy to ensue as soon as possible.


It wasn't always like that. Many here had high hopes for how people soon would see the errors of un-sustainability, and that a green utopia would form powered by food gardens around every outhouse, feelings of superiority from not using oil and fusion. I guess being slapped by the reality of how ignorance and unwillingness to change by "the machine" again and again has renders anyone unable to get their jollies off unless they hear about another bank drowning or another western country teetering on collapse.
When I look at videos of Cuba I don't see people's gardens getting raided or riots in the streets over bread. Could it be that they are a close knit community while suburbanites in the US are isolationists? Or were things bad that way for a while before they stabilized?
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