by allenwrench » Tue 14 Oct 2008, 19:33:52
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('IgnoranceIsBliss', 'S')hopping/ buying things is our national pastime. It's what we do for amusement. People will still try to buy the usual junk until the bitter end. (ie their credit card is maxed and then cut off) I think we will see a lot more credit card defaults when folks just run them up and then stop paying. (maybe after a job loss)
Then comes anger because "hey, I work hard but can't afford that big screen TV that I have to get!"
I've been wondering the same thing: how is our economy going to recover (let alone grow again) without the consumer spending component?
The only answer that I see right away is some kind of gov't funded public works projects to provide jobs and help us transition into a green economy. Chances of this actualy happening: minimal at best
Maybe more people will join the military to get work and benefits. That would solve the troop shortage, but give us a lot of untrained personnel. Maybe we wage more wars to keep the military industrial complex fully funded and providing more jobs.
We can see we have created a time bomb. Even the highest level brainiac economists can't fix what ails us. Our whole system is based on an unsustainable model that will eventually collapse no matter how much money that is printed up by the Fed. (...they don't even need to print money nowadays, all that needs to be done to create billions is to magnetize a silicon chip!)
Now maybe if our energy supply was stable and affordable and global warming was not an issue, things would be different and we could keep on consuming and expanding as infinitum
Sad thing is...IT'S NOT THAT SIMPLE TO DO A 180...Without compulsive spending and conspicuous consumption funded by unaffordable debt, we would fail as a country.
You ever hear the saying...'I got the tiger by the tail and can't let go?' That is how it has developed in the US of A.
Lets say everyone becomes voluntary simplicity and frugal squirrel devotees. We recycle, reuse, repair and just say no to buying more crap. If we stop buying all the stuff that America imports from China - who keeps the billion plus people in China from starving, so they do not go back to old ways of trying to take over the world?
And on a more local level, if the consumer stops consuming even US goods, the US companies go bust, everyone loses their jobs and his or her retirement funds will collapse.
What about growing a a garden...nothing wrong with that? Lets say everyone starts growing 'victory gardens' in the backyard as food has become unaffordable. So some of the few farmers left in the US go bust cause their food just rots on the shelves unsold. Now there is less food being produced and at even a higher cost to those that can afford it the least.
What about more taxes? Tax the little guy so DC can pay for their compulsive spending disease. More taxes = less for us to compulsively spend 'trying' to buy happiness = lower earnings for the greedy corporations = raise hell with the DOW = less cap gains tax income for the gov to squander = everyone's retirement funds sink lower and lower = even less compulsive spending since everyone is poorer..."A debt-based society cannot prosper and is doomed to fail..." ~ Ron Paul
Back in the day, (prairie and turn of the century) citizens were more of a self sufficient nature. Most of us have lost that skill of self sufficiency and we have shifted gears to be dependent on gov and a few other such as farmers or oil producers or China to take care of the whole pop of the US. The problem is, it is very hard to go back without causing a lot of pain. (Actually a lot of deaths)
Hell, the impotent people of modern day and age can't even make pancakes or peanut butter sandwiches and have to buy them ready made in the store...it's really scary.