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Re: Preparing your children

Unread postby Crazy_Dad » Fri 10 Oct 2008, 08:22:22

Wow, at last people who are thinking and talking sense.
Apart from a few idiots. There are some genuine expressions and sound wisdom to be had in this thread.

I'm in Australia, and I swear I can smell the coming storm.
I will start preparing my kids as best as I can, which is difficult. They don't live with me. I have a new wife and baby on the way.

My boys mother left me for doom saying, I also suffered from depression. I could see this coming for over 10 years(I quit Environmental management 12 years ago after talking to mining/oil/gas industry types - no hope to overcome the system) My new wife has a greater understanding, although I think I need to be gentle in explaining PO.

I will just start learning what I need to know. I started archery a few weeks ago. Then I will teach my wife and kids.

When should I plan to evacuate the kids? Thats my biggest dilemma. Hopefully their mother will wake up soon. She listens a bit more these days - she is not too dumb to see the signs now.

Good luck and go in peace.
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Re: Preparing your children

Unread postby Bigfoot3814 » Mon 13 Oct 2008, 00:33:22

If this whole thing comes about, I personally see myself hopping freight trains and bumming around western towns.
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Re: Preparing your children

Unread postby ReverseEngineer » Mon 13 Oct 2008, 00:54:32

Teach your children to be strong, to be tough, to be fearless. Don't allow them to be lazy, don't countenance disrespect, make them accountable for their actions.

You might be able to insulate them for a while here, but not for long. Best to get to the task now of hardening them for the trials that will come before them.

Communicate NO FEAR. Be as strong as you can be for them. Save As Many as you Can.

Remember though, you CANNOT save them all. If you are the Mother in the Tsunami and you have 2 in your grasp, you might just have to let one go, elsewise you all will drown. Steel yourself for the moment you have to make that CHOICE. It will come.

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Re: Preparing your children

Unread postby Bigfoot3814 » Mon 13 Oct 2008, 12:50:49

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ReverseEngineer', 'T')each your children to be strong, to be tough, to be fearless. Don't allow them to be lazy, don't countenance disrespect, make them accountable for their actions.


Never mind the end of the world as we know it, you ought to be doing that stuff anyway.
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Re: Preparing your children

Unread postby Narz » Mon 13 Oct 2008, 22:26:07

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Bigfoot3814', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ReverseEngineer', 'T')each your children to be strong, to be tough, to be fearless. Don't allow them to be lazy, don't countenance disrespect, make them accountable for their actions.


Never mind the end of the world as we know it, you ought to be doing that stuff anyway.

I agree.

Except I think "fearless" is unrealistic and undesirable. One should just try to teach (and cultivate within oneself) the art of differetiating true fear (the "sixth sense" that may well save your life in an emergency) from panic & irrationality & general franticness (which is more likely to get you killed or hurt than to save you).

True fear is your ally. False fear is the enemy, this is the fear people always talk about overcoming.
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Re: Preparing your children

Unread postby Bigfoot3814 » Mon 13 Oct 2008, 22:42:33

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Narz', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Bigfoot3814', '
')Never mind the end of the world as we know it, you ought to be doing that stuff anyway.

I agree.

Except I think "fearless" is unrealistic and undesirable. One should just try to teach (and cultivate within oneself) the art of differetiating true fear (the "sixth sense" that may well save your life in an emergency) from panic & irrationality & general franticness (which is more likely to get you killed or hurt than to save you).

True fear is your ally. False fear is the enemy, this is the fear people always talk about overcoming.


"The only difference between a hero and a coward isn't the fear, it's what you do with it." I'm sure somebody really smart said that (besides me of course).
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Re: Preparing your children

Unread postby Sixstrings » Tue 14 Oct 2008, 07:16:45

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '-') No TV, internet, CD players, iPods


Actually, I would say the Internet will live a long life. As energy becomes more scarce, there will be a premium attached to getting things done without people around so much.
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Re: Preparing your children

Unread postby Crazy_Dad » Tue 14 Oct 2008, 07:25:23

I think the internet is a wonderful thing. I came here for guidance and information for example.

I think as energy get more expensive, the internet will begin to die off. Much like roundup used on plants. The extremities will go first.

I have such a huge wealth of data on a 2TB SAN device, but no way to preserve it beyond the energey crisis.

I plan to allow for a solar setup to run my PC and SAN. Even though I know my motherboard will crap out sooner or later - hopefully my community(Yet to be developed) will learn enough to survive.

My kids think the internet is like tap water. I'll be just as sorry as them to see it go.
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Re: Preparing your children

Unread postby ReverseEngineer » Tue 14 Oct 2008, 07:39:36

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Narz', '
')Except I think "fearless" is unrealistic and undesirable. One should just try to teach (and cultivate within oneself) the art of differetiating true fear (the "sixth sense" that may well save your life in an emergency) from panic & irrationality & general franticness (which is more likely to get you killed or hurt than to save you).

True fear is your ally. False fear is the enemy, this is the fear people always talk about overcoming.


Accurate for the most part. However, in Human Beings, inherent fear exists in some to a greater extent than others. Some children are absolutely fearless, some are incredibly timid. I have spoken many times about teaching children, I will tell you specifically what I do. I teach competitive gymnastics. I teach children to throw very hard tricks, tricks that can kill them if they screw up. I teach 6 year olds to throw double back somersaults in the air. I have been doing this for near 30 years now.

You won't live too long as a gymnast if you don't understand what you are doing is dangerous and just go an throw willy nilly. Neither will you be successful at doing these things if you are not incredibly well prepared to do them, very strong of body and of mind. In the world of gymnastics, we wash them out all the time, very few can stand up to the rigors of this sport. Its so tough to make it thru you cannot believe it. But in every generation I have taught, some always come to it, some in fact do make it thru and succeed at it. I don't like seeing them wash out, but most do. I have to let them go, and I have to place my effort in training with those who CAN succeed, who can survive. Many things come into play, from physical attributes to psychological ones, emotinal and economic ones also. Its a micorcosm of life, and I learned most of what I know teaching it.

You think the Boys Scouts or Girls Scouts are the best place for a child to learn to survive? I dont think so. Try competitive gmynastics. Only the strong survive.

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Re: Preparing your children

Unread postby bratticus » Thu 27 Nov 2008, 08:36:13

The children are too good for what will come.
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Re: Preparing your children

Unread postby patience » Tue 16 Dec 2008, 21:05:42

We taught our kids to think critically, how to use good judgement, and how to provide for themselves, among other things. We exposed them to the widest variety of people and lifestyles we possibly could. We exposed them to the world of nature and let them go as far as they wanted with their own ideas. We also taught them to never push their physical abilities to the point of risking injury. They are 40 and 42 years old now, and I am still convinced we did it right.

I believe that physical competition is just another manifestation of the elementary school game of "mine is bigger than yours", seen throughout our debased society. I can see no reason that such competition exists, beyond preparation for war, another fatal flaw of humanity.

I think of "professional" sports as being the most contra-social of entertainments. If young people were taught cooperation to achieve goals, how much more benign would our world be? Rather than how to knock down your football opponent with a bone-crushing thud, that regularly results in outrageous medical bills, and ruined young lives. To crown this achievement, we have old Joe Quarterback on the pain reliever commercial, touting its' benefits! But, the Roman Circuses must go on, right?
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Re: Preparing your children

Unread postby Lord_Garth » Fri 26 Dec 2008, 18:04:38

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
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After you have killed them by methods typically used in butcher shops such as electrocution, cutting their heads off, etc., hang them upside down, cut the throat and let the blood drain out. You can collect the blood for other recipes, if desired. Cut off the arms and legs using a sharp saw and using a sharp knife, cut off the meat from the arms and legs. The meat can be cooked in boiling oil, boiling water or fried or baked. You can sprinkle spice on them the same way you spice chicken, beef, etc. Alternatively, you can bread them using a bread mix or make your own. For the torso, cut that in half, take out the internal organs and cut the meat off with a sharp knife. For more information, google meat packing union or methods.
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Re: Preparing your children

Unread postby medicvet » Thu 05 Feb 2009, 08:15:28

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')f you are the Mother in the Tsunami and you have 2 in your grasp, you might just have to let one go, elsewise you all will drown.


I am sorry, but I prefer to think that there are other alternatives in this thing we call life than making a "Sophie's Choice". Ask me to choose, and I guess we all go down, because my first instinct will be to take the mofo out.
Human history becomes more and more a race between education and catastrophe.-H.G. Wells

The only basis for a nation’s prosperity is a religious regard for the rights of others. - ISOCRATES
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