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Re: Vanga's Peak Oil Prophecy

Unread postby Minvaren » Wed 06 Aug 2008, 21:41:38

Eschatology is an interesting thing, and I've spent a fair bit of time researching it. But when it gets really fun is when you run into those rare people who have the high hit rates over long periods of time.

The only other prophet I've found like that is Malachy - which made it all the funnier when the current pope chose his papal name. Do we play to it, or is it really already decided?

It will be interesting to see how Vanga turns out. Based on what's reprinted from the newspaper, we should know in the next couple of years...
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Re: Vanga's Peak Oil Prophecy

Unread postby Pretorian » Wed 06 Aug 2008, 21:47:49

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cid_Yama', '
')Vanga is Bulgaria's Edgar Cayce.



I actually wanted to open a thread about her a week ago or so. But then thought that noone ever heard of her here. She had some neat prediction about 2011 or 2012. Like WWIII or something
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Re: Vanga's Peak Oil Prophecy

Unread postby Cid_Yama » Wed 06 Aug 2008, 22:07:42

Yeah, WWIII is supposed to start in November of 2010 and will eventually involve nuclear weapons. She even stated it would be fighting over energy resources.

You can't get more specific in predictions than that. At the time she died there was no discussion of imminent oil decline in the world.

In 1960 she was predicting a near cessation in oil production in 2018.

She also predicted the melting of the polar ice caps @2033 - also not apparent at the time of her death. Heck, she did a better job than the IPCC.

Since we can see the above already unfolding, I would say if we find ourselves in a world war in November of 2010, I would consider it time to start worrying.
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Re: Vanga's Peak Oil Prophecy

Unread postby berechia » Thu 07 Aug 2008, 01:10:37

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cid_Yama', 'W')HAT do the break-up of the Soviet Union, the Chernobyl disaster, Boris Yeltsin’s electoral victory, the date of Stalin’s death, the sinking of the Russian submarine Kursk, and Topalov’s victory in the world chess tournament this year(2005) have in common? Before conspiracy theorists get carried away; they are all events said to have been foretold by “Baba Vanga”.

Evangelia “Vanga” Dimitrova, or Baba Vanga, as she was know to many Bulgarians, is a powerful, mystical figure in Bulgaria’s recent history, whose prophecies have been compared by some to those of Nostradamus.

Such was her standing, that when the communists came to power in 1945, she was not interfered with, and later they even made allowance for her, making her what has been described as the first “subsidised prophetess”.

“One of Lozanov’s many research activities involves the evaluation of the predictions made by the blind, peasant woman, Vanga Dimitrova, who may be the modern world’s first Government supported prophetess. <b>“Studies are reported to have shown that Dimitrova’s predictive abilities - particularly strong in terms of finding lost relatives and friends - are about eighty percent accurate.”</b>

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I watch out nfor false prophets all the time they are everywhere.

those things that were predicted are not difficult to predict if you know you are going to cause them

I can predict going to california in the year 2009 in march and then all I have to do is go there and now I am a true prophet?

False prophets are communicating with high level spirits who already control the world that stuff is easy to predict.

also here prophecies are rip offs of the only true prophecies, the one about a meteor coming and wiping out the islands and hitting the ocean with tsunami, this is not difficult, it is simple plagarism from the Bible

christians have known how the world is going to end for 2000 years by meteor, fire and nuclear explosions.

2 Pet 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
2 Pet 3:11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,


ELEMENTS MELTING (fission) FERVENT HEAT and the earth WHOLE earth being burned up

2000 years ago predicted, it shall happen.

Rev 18:21 And a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with violence shall that great city Babylon be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all.


Babylon is the name for the last day empire that forces everyone to worship the beast (beasts are world powers)

one day it will be wiped out by a meteor and huge tsunamis

Rev 6:12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;
Rev 6:13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.
Rev 6:14 And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places.

Meteor, hits ocean, tsunami wipes out islands, earthquake splits the crust like an expanding apple hit by a 22 hollow point, crevaces open up, lava pours out,

2 Pet 3:7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.


lots more texts, and these are the truth

many prophets claim to be prophets but they usually just copy the bible.

lots of money in being a false prophet.
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Re: Vanga's Peak Oil Prophecy

Unread postby berechia » Thu 07 Aug 2008, 01:24:39

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mos6507', 'N')ibiru again? Sheesh. Someone move this to Out of This World.


So why read the thread, go somewhere else.
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Re: Vanga's Peak Oil Prophecy

Unread postby Pretorian » Thu 07 Aug 2008, 01:27:05

My problem with these profecies is that they do not price in the domino effect caused by them in the first place. The future might change just because people acted differently than usual just because they believed/disbelieved or just spent time on reading these profecies, instead of getting into a car-accident, finding a spouse or bidding on ebay or whatever.
for example

"2256 - Spaceship brings a freighting new disease into Earth.'

It is obvious that if previous predictions will come true than Earth will be shut off all incoming spaceship, which will make this prediction false
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Re: Vanga's Peak Oil Prophecy

Unread postby Cid_Yama » Thu 07 Aug 2008, 02:59:10

<i>I watch out for false prophets all the time they are everywhere.

False prophets are communicating with high level spirits who already control the world that stuff is easy to predict.</i>

Have you perhaps been diagnosed with Schizophrenia?
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Re: Vanga's Peak Oil Prophecy

Unread postby angrysurgeon » Thu 07 Aug 2008, 12:19:17

Did she manage to "forecast" the fall of the iron curtain?
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Re: Vanga's Peak Oil Prophecy

Unread postby Cid_Yama » Thu 07 Aug 2008, 23:17:05

WHAT do <b>the break-up of the Soviet Union</b>, the Chernobyl disaster, Boris Yeltsin’s electoral victory, the date of Stalin’s death, the sinking of the Russian submarine Kursk, and Topalov’s victory in the world chess tournament this year have in common? Before conspiracy theorists get carried away; they are all events said to have been foretold by “Baba Vanga”.

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Re: Vanga's Peak Oil Prophecy

Unread postby Cid_Yama » Mon 11 Aug 2008, 21:10:33

I find Vanga's predictions quite comforting. She says WWIII doesn't start til November 2010.

If not for that, I'ld be worried it's starting right now.'8O'
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Re: Vanga's Peak Oil Prophecy

Unread postby angrysurgeon » Tue 12 Aug 2008, 01:53:41

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cid_Yama', 'W')HAT do <b>the break-up of the Soviet Union</b>, the Chernobyl disaster, Boris Yeltsin’s electoral victory, the date of Stalin’s death, the sinking of the Russian submarine Kursk, and Topalov’s victory in the world chess tournament this year have in common? Before conspiracy theorists get carried away; they are all events said to have been foretold by “Baba Vanga”.

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Yes but before i commit myself into "believing", there are some things that must be cleared. One of them is the phenomenon, which can be observed when you open up any newspaper and read the horoscope part of it. Here from www.horoscope.com Taurus:

"You’ll be on a roll today, Taurus, thanks to a string of positive influences, which emphasize those things that makes life so great. There is one small note of caution: don’t trust everything you hear, because it’s possible that someone may overstate a particular problem!"

It's so generally written that it can be bent into any form.

Another phenomenon is that rumors tend to blow the original story out of proportions, making the story more biased, more exaggerated over time.

What would be very interesting is to find someone who can translate the original texts carefully and really, with a scientific loupe, see if the reality bends to her predictions or if she really truly was predicting everything correctly.

Here is an interesting passage from this site:
http://jebzingo.tripod.com/psychics/vangamania.html

"According to Russian Psychologist Tatiana Somova, psychic predictions are easy to believe after-the-fact and that many of Vanga's predictions have passed without being fulfilled."
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Re: Vanga's Peak Oil Prophecy

Unread postby Cid_Yama » Tue 12 Aug 2008, 02:54:18

Well, actually, I was making a joke about the current tensions in the world.

It would be interesting if it were possible, but it wouldn't necessarily be good if <b>Vanga's</b> predictions were true.

That would mean nuclear war was only 3 years away.

Might be good to live one's life as if they were true. Making the most of the next 3 years couldn't hurt anyone.

<i>What would be very interesting is to find someone who can translate the original texts carefully and really, with a scientific loupe, see if the reality bends to her predictions or if she really truly was predicting everything correctly.</i>

If I'm not mistaken, the Bulgarians(with Russian assistance), did exactly that. The studies must be out there somewhere.

Frankly, I'ld like to continue to look at it as an interesting curiosity. Make it too real and I might have trouble enjoying the next few years.

Maybe getting a sailboat and going Jimmy Buffet would be the best way to go. Do they have saiboat size desalination units? Solar oven to cook the fish. Fermentation tanks for drink, it could be done.
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Re: Vanga's Peak Oil Prophecy

Unread postby Cid_Yama » Sun 09 Nov 2008, 21:14:46

It's not going to take God or the Anti-Christ for man to get his comupance. Man is doing it to himself.
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Re: Vanga's Peak Oil Prophecy

Unread postby angrysurgeon » Wed 31 Dec 2008, 19:57:55

So nothing happened in 2008 now did it? I guess we can put Vanga and her prophecies to rest...No assassination attempt on prominent politicians, and now troubles as far as i can see in indonesia...
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