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Re: "Efficient" furnace not necessarily economical

Unread postby Kingcoal » Tue 21 Mar 2006, 20:04:53

A heating system has to looked at from a distance. There are often several things that need to be improved to save fuel. For instance, my old furnace was over sized for the house. It used to "short cycle" a lot, which wastes a lot of fuel. Even though it had the same efficiency rating as the new one, the new one uses much less fuel because it is a lower btu unit and runs in widely spaced long cycles. New windows, doors and lots of house doctoring have saved me a lot.
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Self Powered Solar Box Furnace gadget

Unread postby jsb1969 » Sun 03 Sep 2006, 12:33:40

"Some example data was taken with the solar furnace. On a sunny day with a 10 degree C outdoor temperature, the furnace was able to increase the interior garage air from 12 degrees C to 29 degrees C. The fan's air flow rating is 30 cubic feet per minute at full speed"

Interesting, eh?

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http://www.solorb.com/elect/solarcirc/s ... index.html
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Re: Self Powered Solar Box Furnace gadget

Unread postby PeakOilPrincess » Sun 03 Sep 2006, 17:57:23

I have found all sorts of solar stuff like that on the web, including this:
http://www.builditsolar.com/Projects/Sp ... eating.htm


Most of it seems to be circa 1970s energy crisis time. You can tell by the haircuts and the clothes the people wear in many of the photos.


What I would like to find is a website that has collected data on all these solar gizmos and how they fared over the past 30 years. Anyone know of such a website?
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Biomass Furnace

Unread postby rethin » Mon 02 Apr 2007, 22:40:27

Can anyone advise me on a biomass furnace?

My father owns some land in upstate NY. His house is currently heated via propane.

We have been talking of PO preparedness and one point has been switching from/adding to the propane furnace with a biomass furnace. (He's already installing a PV system).

I googled this and have found mostly websites from vendors trying to sell furnaces.

Can anyone point me to some more general resources reguarding these (or other) heating systems?

Thanks
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Re: Biomass Furnace

Unread postby Tanada » Sun 06 May 2007, 11:03:44

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rethin', 'C')an anyone advise me on a biomass furnace?

My father owns some land in upstate NY. His house is currently heated via propane.

We have been talking of PO preparedness and one point has been switching from/adding to the propane furnace with a biomass furnace. (He's already installing a PV system).

I googled this and have found mostly websites from vendors trying to sell furnaces.

Can anyone point me to some more general resources reguarding these (or other) heating systems?

Thanks


I would be willing to do a little googling for you myself but I need to know exactly what you are looking for. Do you want a traditional wood stove, a pellet furnace, something where you make your own fuel out of dried plant material? Or do you mean a biodiesel burning oil furnace or a mother earth news type glycerol furnace you run with the glycerol left over from making biodiesel?
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Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will
To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.
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Re: Biomass Furnace

Unread postby rethin » Sun 06 May 2007, 22:27:55

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I would be willing to do a little googling for you myself


Thanks but I have answered my own question in the mean time.
I never did find a good summary of the available options, but other threads here at po.com and extensive googling have lead me in the right direction.
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Canadian police warn "Put a lock on furnace oil tank.&a

Unread postby NoWorries » Thu 17 Jul 2008, 12:45:21

PEI
News item from Canada's smallest province, after thieves stole the furnace oil from a local church.
moved to current energy news by Eastbay
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Re: Canadian police warn "Put a lock on furnace oil tan

Unread postby HEADER_RACK » Thu 17 Jul 2008, 12:47:45

A lock will only keep an honest man honest.
Nothing is more dangerous than a man with nothing left to lose but has everything left to gain.
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Re: Canadian police warn "Put a lock on furnace oil tan

Unread postby Fishman » Thu 17 Jul 2008, 13:50:33

So what can you put in the furnace oil to screw up the use of the stolen fuel? Perhaps a setup tank with significant gasoline mixed, perhaps blow up their furnace?
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Re: Canadian police warn "Put a lock on furnace oil tan

Unread postby emeraldg40 » Thu 17 Jul 2008, 13:58:08

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Fishman', 'S')o what can you put in the furnace oil to screw up the use of the stolen fuel? Perhaps a setup tank with significant gasoline mixed, perhaps blow up their furnace?


My Canadian bro-inlaw has 15 rigs...he had one at a service bay overnight, the mech. comes in the next day........found that 1400.00 worth of petro was stolen out of his truck. Unreal. So I go and buy a locking gas cap for my chevy lol only to find out the theives puncture a hole in the tank....what to do?
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Re: Canadian police warn "Put a lock on furnace oil tan

Unread postby Rabbit » Thu 17 Jul 2008, 17:55:34

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'w')hat to do?


Park the trucks indoors at night.
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Re: Canadian police warn "Put a lock on furnace oil tan

Unread postby EndOfSewers » Thu 17 Jul 2008, 18:21:36

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('HEADER_RACK', 'A') lock will only keep an honest man honest.
If your tank has a lock and the one next door doesn't . . .
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Re: Canadian police warn "Put a lock on furnace oil tan

Unread postby gandolf » Thu 17 Jul 2008, 20:20:46

I drain my petrol from the tank each night and bring it inside with me where it is safe.

It means I have to leave my Flatscreen TV and DVD player outside to make room... But no one seems interested in these inexpensive items
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Re: Canadian police warn "Put a lock on furnace oil tan

Unread postby Twilight » Fri 18 Jul 2008, 12:27:05

For fixed tanks, why not try a covering of razor wire with bells?
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Re: Canadian police warn "Put a lock on furnace oil tan

Unread postby emeraldg40 » Fri 18 Jul 2008, 14:14:17

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Rabbit', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'w')hat to do?


Park the trucks indoors at night.



Hmm. Well maybe he should just take his licks then eh? Cost wise hes better off losing 1400.00 than building a indoor garage for 15 Kenworths. What a mess.
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Natural Gas Furnace Replacement

Unread postby vision-master » Sun 05 Oct 2008, 09:46:19

Instead of replacing my central natural gas furnace from the early 70's, I'm thinking for getting one of these instead. They ain't cheap tho. About $3,000. Wood heat is not a option were I live.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'S')tandard Features
- Ultra High Efficiency
- Pilotless Automatic Ignition
- Unlimited Venting Possibilities - Including Down
- Wide Adjustable BTU Range
- Automatic, 2-Speed 450 CFM Fan
- Built-in Heat Port - Transfers Heat to Another Room
- 5-Piece Ceramic Log Set with Embers
- True-Flame™ Burner Technology - Realistic Flame
- Back Flame Shut Off
- Smart Valve™ Control
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- Approved for Use in Manufactured Homes
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    Maximum Input Rating (BTU / hr) - Natural Gas: 43,000 Propane: 43,000

    Minimum Output Rating (BTU / hr) - Natural Gas: 12,000 Propane: 12,500

    Efficiency - Up to 92% AFUE
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Re: Natural Gas Furance Replacement

Unread postby Cashmere » Sun 05 Oct 2008, 09:54:06

Why is wood not an option? Are you downtown? Code?
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Re: Natural Gas Furance Replacement

Unread postby drew » Sun 05 Oct 2008, 09:56:03

Get a new furnace. That thing uses gas anyways.

There are bi-fuel furnaces btw. Google it and you'll find a manufacturer down there that makes 'em.

Your options are gas or oil in combination with wood or coal. You have to choose either gas or oil from the manufacturer. Last time I looked the furnace was $5,000.

Coal is pretty cheap!

:? 8O

Cough, cough!!

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Re: Natural Gas Furance Replacement

Unread postby vision-master » Sun 05 Oct 2008, 10:00:35

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cashmere', 'W')hy is wood not an option? Are you downtown? Code?


Big city - Townhouse.
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Re: Natural Gas Furance Replacement

Unread postby vision-master » Sun 05 Oct 2008, 10:02:07

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('drew', 'G')et a new furnace. That thing uses gas anyways. There are bi-fuel furnaces btw. Google it and you'll find a manufacturer down there that makes 'em. Your options are gas or oil in combination with wood or coal. You have to choose either gas or oil from the manufacturer. Last time I looked the furnace was $5,000. Coal is pretty cheap! :? 8O Cough, cough!!

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