[pedalling_faster]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('eastbay', 'I') then quickly sat up in bed and I was surprised to see my daughter standing in the room staring out the window into the night's darkness. I said hello to her and she replied that she just had a terrible nightmare, but couldn't remember the details.

[eastbay]

I rarely have nightmares... or dreams so frightening that they cause me to suddenly wake up.

She too rarely has dreams causing her to wake up frightened.

What are the odds of us each having such a dream on the same night at the same moment, particularly since she was the focus of mine? It must be millions to one.

Someone once said there are no such thing as coincidences especially something as freaky as this.

I tend to agree.

[PhebaAndThePilgrim]

Good day from Pheba, from the farm:
Okay, this is the post where I lose all credibility on this web-site.
In 1983 or 1984 My husband purchased a new bedside alarm clock radio combination. The new radio had the latest thing, a digital clock. The large orange letters were easy to read. That night I woke up, and looked over at the clock.
The time said 11:11. I thought I had awakened because I drank so much Pepsi, and went to the bathroom. This was in April, and every night I continued to awaken when the digital clock read 11:11. I thought; great, now my body clock is screwed up and I am waking up each and every night at 11:11. How irritating.
I was young and healthy, and usually slept through the night.
This pattern continued until late fall. I jokingly thought that with the switch from daylight savings time in October that the habit would cease or at least change the time on the clock.
Nope. After we turned the clocks back I still awakened every night at exactly 11:11 on the digital clock .
Shortly after this we purchased our first microwave oven. This behemoth weighed a ton, and cost about 400.00. This was 1983/84. We purchased it from Sears, and it was a Kenmore.
The beast had a digital clock, and I set it on a stand in the kitchen opposite the sink. Shortly after the purchase I was doing dishes
and felt what I can only describe as an strange pulling desire to turn around and look behind me. When I did the time on the digital clock on the microwave read 11:11.
I began seeing this number everywhere. I would be in the car and feel a strange pulling in my abdomen, like somebody was yanking on a string. I would look down at the digital clock and, you guessed it; 11:11.
I went back to college in 1999. That was my first access to the internet. I was between classes, and happened to notice that the date on my paper was 11/11/99. On a silly whim I went to Google and typed in 11:11.
I pulled up a web-site with all kinds of new age silliness about humanity entering the next stage of spiritual development, etc. etc. I did not discount it, but neither did I buy into it.
My daughter and I had made a joke of 11:11 over the years. What did this craziness mean?
Here are some ideals we came up with.
Mom was crazy.
Mom was communing with aliens.
Mom was receiving vision of her death date.
Mom was receiving visions of winning lottery numbers. (I loved this one)
This went on from 1983/84 (can't remember exactly) through about
2002 or 2003. The only thing I can relate to the stopping of the craziness was my increasing awareness and feeling that something strange was going on. I began reading about energy and environmental issues, and the more I learned the less I saw the number 11:11. Also, the discomfort I had always felt with the number went away. Am I crazy? Is this a minor mental fluke?
I am a cancer survivor and see a counselor who helped me get back into creation after my surgery. I once told him about my 11:11 craziness. He said it was a harmless mental anomaly (sic).
Okay, I have developed a theory about all of this. Tell me what you think.
I also began having a recurring dream in 1985, and had the dream about 10 or 12 years.
In this dream there is a blizzard, and I am in a horse drawn wagon going from door to door in a subdivision selling food. I remember the sky is very dark, even though it is daylight. The dream haunted me, and I can't figure it out. At that time I had not heard or read about nuclear winter, environmental issues. etc.
The dream went away as I learned about the environment and peak oil, along with the 11:11 silliness.
My theory: I have read about epi-genes, and I believe we do have a collective conscience. I believe the 11:11 is some kind of a message, sort of a heads up in a dna way. that's the nearest thing I can make any sense of with all of this.
Once I learned about peak oil, and the destruction of our ecosystem I literally got the message, and the 11:11 ceased. Either that or the 11:11 was my own subconscience absorbing information that I was unable to assemble on my own, and the 11:11 was my minds way to get in touch with me. Who knows.
Sorry this is so rambling and long. I have only told a few people about this. Guess the world knows now. Have a great evening.
Pheba, from the farm.

[eastbay]

Maybe we're all in for something significant in about four years... on 11/11/11.

Interesting that you had this dream for maybe 10 or 12 years, but not for 11 years. 11 must frighten you somehow.

It's no coincidence that you had this unusual and telling dream for so many years. Tales of dreams revealing future events are common and appear across all cultures. Let us know when you find out what 11-11 is all about, other than my sisters birthday.

In late 1979, as the second oil shock was underway, I was commuting with a few guys and told them of a vivid dream I just had that previous night about an earthquake causing significant damage around our area. At 10am, two hours after we started working, we all felt a 5.9 quake which hit centered nearby causing surprisingly very little damage but scaring us all nicely. For the next few months the guys would ask me if I had any bad dreams so they could get prepared... heh.

[Revi]

I really don't get into the whole mystical thing, but I do believe that dreams do tell us things we have buried in our subconcious. There is a lot of denial out there. I suffer from it myself. I think our subconcious punches through to tell us what's going on once in a while. We may have been seeing signs of an impending event and even know that it's going to happen, but we block it because we don't want to think about it. Our subconcious drags it back out in the open. We are much more in tune with what's really going on as peakers. We should listen to our dreams. There may be something that we need to know. Soon.

[bobaloo]

Pheba, I read a lot of alternative web sites and listen to Coast when I get bored, and there have been many, many people who have been having the same experience you have with the number 11:11. It seems to be going around these days.

I'm of the feeling that it's an echo backwards in time from some big event in the near future. I've had a number of strong precognitive events in my life and have seen the effect myself, and it really reminds me of that.

[pedalling_faster]

i think when we were taught in public schools that "human beings have 5 senses", that the teachers were simplifying things.

the last time Thanksgiving was on a November 22, was in 2002. it happened to be the biggest day of the year, in terms of wave size, 10 feet @ 17 seconds rolling into Torrey Pines. surfers remember these things.

i was out skin-diving at La Jolla the Tuesday before. it was one of those weeks when you try to escape from work but get drawn in for some project, so it's almost a week of vacation.

i had done that particular swim a lot, 20 or 30 times, where you go from the Shores over to the Cove and then swim in the kelp beds. there's usually other people diving and swimming, also plenty of marine life. seals, leopard sharks, sea bass 4 feet long, etc.

it takes so much preparation, you never abort a dive. between coordinating one's digestive system so that the essential tasks are taken care of before putting on the wetsuit, to driving to the beach, to enduring the first 10 minutes of discomfort as you immerse yourself in 60 degree water, you know there will be some work before you get to the fun part. usually, swimming through seaweed muck in low-visibility is part of the swim. you get inured to these things.

one other thing. the water is about 20 feet deep right off-shore,then drops to 120 feet about a half mile offshore, then plunges to a canyon 2000 feet deep. Great Whites, we are told, go there to give birth. i always thought a mother animal would be hungry after all that work, but with all those millions of swimmer-hours, there hasn't been an attack since about 1950-something.

while i was still near shore, i got a very strange feeling. Terrified. un-explainable heeby-jeeby feeling, like in a good sci-fi movie when you get really scared. like the first time you see Alien, during the Chest-bursting sequence.

i thought, this is silly, just keep swimming. so i kept swimming, but the feeling didn't go away. i kept thinking, "this is SO silly", but there was something in my body that was quite tangible. so, i got out of the water after a half hour, and went and bought a computer. "coincidental laziness", i thought, though i had never aborted a dive or a swim ever ... in 40 years of swimming.

then, 2 days later, the waves came rolling in Thursday Thanksgiving day. nice big day, wave wise.

on Saturday, there was an article in the local paper. a lobster fisherman was out about 1/2 mile west of the cove, pulling up his lobster traps, working from a boat. he saw a large great white Shark eating a mother seal. and decided to call it a workday.

as it turns out, that was about 2 days before my Tuesday dive.

so, i wonder ... what happened ?
* just got lazy once
* the metallic taste and smell of blood in the water.
* a sixth sense that tells us when a large animal is
nearby, hunting for food.
* the ability to feel the fear of the seals

it gets a little wierder. a year later, 2003, i was at the YMCA in North County, in the pool. i see another guy standing at the edge of the pool. bodysurfer, i knew it. i asked him if he surfed, he said he was into body-surfing.

he went out the day after Thanksgiving 2002, at a beach 2 miles north of La Jolla Shores, Torrey Pines. the waves were a little smaller, but still big, for San Diego. the kind of day a surfer waits all year for.

he also got a heeby-jeeby feeling, and got out of the water. He said that was the only time in his life that he had that happen, cut a surfing session short because he felt inexplicably scared.

anyway, i always wanted to collect the birthdays of the people involved, and give the information to an astrologer. i think it would make an interesting case study.

but, i accept that some things we can feel, but not understand.

- - -

as far as the 11-11 thing, my guess is it means something.

[yeahbut]

{merged with Dream thread-FL}
I guess it had to happen, with the crash course I've had over the last couple of years, and the startling speed that some of the early effects of PO seem to be happening all around us.
A couple of weeks ago I woke up feeling very freaked out and extremely grateful to be awake and to realise I still had some time left to get my sh*t together. Only a few minutes before, I had been stuck in a horrible, '28 Days Later' type atmosphere, running and hiding thru a very threatening apocalyptic cityscape. My girlfriend and I took refuge in a carpark building where there were lots of hungry, dirty, crying people, wrapped in old blankets and asking for food. It was fooking awful. Never been so glad to wake up. Have got a bit more motivated on old Pops' "make a plan and work it" level since then...
Anyone else had something like this? Or am I once again the solitary victim of an over-active imagination...

[Ferretlover]

No, you are not alone. Believe me, you are not alone. (I need to find all the posts about PO nightmares, and merge them-quite enlightning!)
The subconcious never sleeps.

[Peleg]

That would be a great thread to put in the psychology forum. I find that prayer helps with nightmares, but also planning. Just take some time to talk with someone you love about the issues and think contingency. if this happens this would be wise, etc. That does not make the issue go away but people do need to feel like a) the evils of the past can be overcome and left behind b) the evils of the future are at least being planned for. Surrounding yourself with people you love and trust can help too, even if they do not see things the way you do such people will not be averse to talking about things with you and that in itself can be reassuring.

God bless.

[cannedsalmon]

I had a dream, I was walking down an unused road, and passed a sign that said "Peak Processed food here"

[Opies]

I've had a few doomer dreams now.

First one I had I was in a grocery store and I guess shit hit the fan and it went from being a normal situation to having walls collapse, people grabbing everything, cars flipped over and on fire. I just remember grabbing as much medicine as I could then booking it out of there and trying to find my family.

Second one I had I was in New York (never been, but I'm sure thats where I was) and I watched a nuke fall on the city, quite a ways away. I ducked and turned the other way when it dropped as to not go blind, then all the feelings sunk in. Panic, fear, desperation, hopelessness. It was a dream and not real, but the feelings were very vivid and I won't soon forget how I felt.

[mystiek]

My relative has prophetic dreams at times. He is definitely not someone that "seeks" these dreams and its very disturbing when they occur. There's several big events that happened that he had dreams prior. One was the space shuttle that blew up in the 80's-neither one of us had been following the news since we were both working for an engineering company and the place we were renting didn't have good tv reception-the next day it was announced the shuttle blew up-so we watched it on someone elses tv and my relative turned pale-it was exactly as he had dreamed. Recently he had a dream that he was holding my youngest son up in his arms trying to "escape" from an area that just had been hit by a nuclear explosion. He said there was like "white-gray ash" falling all around him. He wasn't sure where he was or where the nuke attack occurred. I sure hope this wasn't one of these prophetic dreams! We are Christians and I know he prays for wisdom regarding these dreams because not every dream has some significance-they're just dreams-active subconscious (or perhaps ate too much pizza before going to sleep). However, I have reminded him of the verse in Joel 2:28 about the last days-..."that I will pour out My Spirit on all mankind; and your sons and daughters will prophesy, your old men will dream dreams, your young men will see visions".

[PenultimateManStanding]

I'm feeling so diminished. Just a few years ago I had answers to the mysteries of dreams. Now I don't have answers to anything. I'll be glad when when my daughter comes home from Finland. She has answers.

[threadbear]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', 'I')'m feeling so diminished. Just a few years ago I had answers to the mysteries of dreams. Now I don't have answers to anything. I'll be glad when when my daughter comes home from Finland. She has answers.

[PenultimateManStanding]

Things are not good for me now, Threadbare. I've got a ton of worries. Thinking about dreams is at the bottom of my list.

[threadbear]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', 'T')hings are not good for me now, Threadbare. I've got a ton of worries. Thinking about dreams is at the bottom of my list.