Donate Bitcoin

Donate Paypal


PeakOil is You

PeakOil is You

How many people do you know on psych meds?

What's on your mind?
General interest discussions, not necessarily related to depletion.

Re: How many people do you know on psych meds?

Postby Dreamtwister » Mon 30 Jun 2008, 10:34:52

You know, I have to wonder if it might have something to do with the deluge of unactionable bad news with which people are inundated.

60% of people are overweight? What a bummer, but what can I do about it? 50,000 people are flooded out of their homes? It's sad, but what can I do? We might be gearing up for another interminable war which could end civilization? That sucks, but all I can do is watch.

Are we seeing a trend here?

We are fed a constant diet of information, disinformation and misinformation, designed to make us feel depressed, isolated and powerless. And they intersperse this crap with ads for the latest poison to make you "feel good".

And people wonder why everyone they know are taking meds?
The whole of human history is a refutation by experiment of the concept of "moral world order". - Friedrich Nietzsche
User avatar
Dreamtwister
Intermediate Crude
Intermediate Crude
 
Posts: 2529
Joined: Mon 06 Feb 2006, 04:00:00

Re: How many people do you know on psych meds?

Postby vision-master » Mon 30 Jun 2008, 10:41:36

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Dreamtwister', 'Y')ou know, I have to wonder if it might have something to do with the deluge of unactionable bad news with which people are inundated.

60% of people are overweight? What a bummer, but what can I do about it? 50,000 people are flooded out of their homes? It's sad, but what can I do? We might be gearing up for another interminable war which could end civilization? That sucks, but all I can do is watch.

Are we seeing a trend here?

We are fed a constant diet of information, disinformation and misinformation, designed to make us feel depressed, isolated and powerless. And they intersperse this crap with ads for the latest poison to make you "feel good".

And people wonder why everyone they know are taking meds?


Our lifestyles - yes
Out of the closet - somewhat

FYI: They don't make you "feel good". At best they just flatten your mood and or clam you down.
vision-master
 

Re: How many people do you know on psych meds?

Postby Dreamtwister » Mon 30 Jun 2008, 10:56:53

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', 'F')YI: They don't make you "feel good". At best they just flatten your mood and or clam you down.


I know that, but that's not what the ads say.
The whole of human history is a refutation by experiment of the concept of "moral world order". - Friedrich Nietzsche
User avatar
Dreamtwister
Intermediate Crude
Intermediate Crude
 
Posts: 2529
Joined: Mon 06 Feb 2006, 04:00:00

Re: How many people do you know on psych meds?

Postby vision-master » Mon 30 Jun 2008, 11:35:20

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Dreamtwister', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', 'F')YI: They don't make you "feel good". At best they just flatten your mood and or clam you down.


I know that, but that's not what the ads say.


Guess what, they are addictive too. Many ppl who have quit using em experience bad side-effects for years.

Quiting cannabis is like quiting coffee. Why would one want to quit the morning buzz, eh?
vision-master
 

Re: How many people do you know on psych meds?

Postby Kingcoal » Mon 30 Jun 2008, 11:59:43

I would estimate that approximately 45% of the US population is on some sort of psych drug(s). Makes me wonder how people survived before big pharma. These drugs are very expensive and some are very addictive. In fact, xanax is considered by many to be more addictive than heroin. A heroin addict rarely dies from withdraw, however a xanax addict can. These harmless looking pills are hard drugs and IMO should be avoided. Coming home after a days work and having a drink or a toke of plant material to unwind is one thing, but needing drugs just to function at work means you have a serious problem. I wouldn't want anyone working for me who is doped up on the job. What happens when they cause an accident? Who's libel then? The employer of course - that happened to a buddy of mine who owns a tree service. He was sued not only for the damage caused when some guy smashed a reach into a telephone pole, but also by the guy who did it! The guy admitted to being on xanax and told the judge that even though he withheld that information from his employer, his employer "should have known" by his messed up appearance.
"That's the problem with mercy, kid... It just ain't professional" - Fast Eddie, The Color of Money
User avatar
Kingcoal
Expert
Expert
 
Posts: 2149
Joined: Wed 29 Sep 2004, 03:00:00
Location: Pennsylvania, USA

Re: How many people do you know on psych meds?

Postby catbox » Mon 30 Jun 2008, 12:25:07

I stopped antidepressants and drinking at the same time cold turkey (bad choice...don't try that one)....went in to post acute withdrawal syndrome and I'm still there...2 years now, although the symptoms are much less intense these days. I was diagnosed possible Bipolar 2 in February of last year and that seemed to make sense...the further along I get from drinking and AD's...I am getting clear enough to recognize chemical changes happening in my noggin whether I want it to or not. I'm not on meds now but find that good sleep, exercise, omega 3 fish oil, staying busy with art and music, and a healthy diet help. But there are times where I seriously consider meds because it gets pretty scary. So far the illness is not wrecking my life but it seems like it's always there in some way.

I also have a good shrink, psyche nurse, and acupuncturist that I brought on board when the withdrawal symptoms became too much..that team of folks has been great!

So far no meds...not to say it won't happen, but I'm hoping not to go on meds period.


catbox
Last edited by catbox on Mon 30 Jun 2008, 18:19:08, edited 1 time in total.
Punk is not really a style of music. It was more like a state of mind.
-Mike Watt
User avatar
catbox
Coal
Coal
 
Posts: 426
Joined: Thu 29 Sep 2005, 03:00:00
Location: I heard we are not the real America..Eugene, Oregon.

Re: How many people do you know on psych meds?

Postby Specop_007 » Mon 30 Jun 2008, 13:12:49

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Specop_007', 'T')he government weed isnt grown in a abandoned cave. Well, not in America anyways. I was for about a week. I said screw that, if that drug was considered normal I'll take insane any day! Threw that crap in the trash. My wife is another story however.
Couldn’t handle the paranoia, eh. Maybe the green goddess is trying to tell you something. Possible ego problems maybe? :razz:

No, actually my father passed away 2 days after Thanksgiving. It fucked with me pretty badly, he was 52. I always knew at some point I'd have to bury my father, you know its a natural part of life. I sure as shit didnt expect it to be this soon though. So I tried to get something to take the edge off and get through life. Well, like I said. If those drugs are normal I'll take crazy any day.
So I said to myself its time to suck it up buttercup, I trashed the pills, made my peace with the passing of my father and moved on. :) Well, I'm trying to anyways. :wink:
"Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the
Abyss, the Abyss gazes also into you."

Ammo at a gunfight is like bubblegum in grade school: If you havent brought enough for everyone, you're in trouble
User avatar
Specop_007
Expert
Expert
 
Posts: 5586
Joined: Thu 12 Aug 2004, 03:00:00
Top

Re: How many people do you know on psych meds?

Postby PenultimateManStanding » Mon 30 Jun 2008, 13:25:26

I'm sorry to hear about your father, spec. requiescat in pace
Turn those Machines back On! - Don Ameche in Trading Places
User avatar
PenultimateManStanding
Expert
Expert
 
Posts: 11363
Joined: Sun 28 Nov 2004, 04:00:00
Location: Neither Here Nor There

Re: How many people do you know on psych meds?

Postby Tyler_JC » Mon 30 Jun 2008, 13:56:45

We shouldn't put ALL psych meds into the same camp for the same reason we shouldn't put all illegal drugs into the same camp.

Crystal meth is far worse for you than marijuana.

Benzodiazepines like Xanax, Valium, and Ativan are far more addictive and cause more withdrawal symptoms than SSRIs like Zoloft or Paxil.

I've known a few people who use or used psych meds. Some were helped greatly by the drugs. It really depends on the individual.

Anti-depressants are overprescribed, no doubt about it, but for the people who actually need them, they can be a miracle.

Don't forget that before the modern era, depressed people usually just drank themselves to death. Alcoholism among the depressed has declined dramatically and been replaced by Prozac "addiction".

Are we better off? I don't know. I believe we are but I can't speak for everyone else.
"www.peakoil.com is the Myspace of the Apocalypse."
Tyler_JC
Expert
Expert
 
Posts: 5438
Joined: Sat 25 Sep 2004, 03:00:00
Location: Boston, MA

Re: How many people do you know on psych meds?

Postby Specop_007 » Mon 30 Jun 2008, 14:04:21

Come on guys, Xanax is Gods gift to Saturday evenings at the club!

:o
"Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the
Abyss, the Abyss gazes also into you."

Ammo at a gunfight is like bubblegum in grade school: If you havent brought enough for everyone, you're in trouble
User avatar
Specop_007
Expert
Expert
 
Posts: 5586
Joined: Thu 12 Aug 2004, 03:00:00

Re: How many people do you know on psych meds?

Postby lotrfan55345 » Mon 30 Jun 2008, 14:10:17

25-50%
I go to an American High School...

Most popular: amphetamine, fluoxetine, sertraline

The happiest (acting), most smiley person I know is on fluoxetine... I don't know why.
Last edited by lotrfan55345 on Mon 30 Jun 2008, 14:14:04, edited 1 time in total.
lotrfan55345
Heavy Crude
Heavy Crude
 
Posts: 1091
Joined: Tue 20 Jul 2004, 03:00:00
Location: Minneapolis / Pittsburgh

Re: How many people do you know on psych meds?

Postby Ludi » Mon 30 Jun 2008, 14:10:18

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Tyler_JC', 'S')ome were helped greatly by the drugs. It really depends on the individual.


Yep.
Ludi
 
Top

Re: How many people do you know on psych meds?

Postby Specop_007 » Mon 30 Jun 2008, 14:15:13

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', 'I')'m sorry to hear about your father, spec. requiescat in pace


Thanks PMS. Just one of those really crappy parts of live I figure.
"Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the
Abyss, the Abyss gazes also into you."

Ammo at a gunfight is like bubblegum in grade school: If you havent brought enough for everyone, you're in trouble
User avatar
Specop_007
Expert
Expert
 
Posts: 5586
Joined: Thu 12 Aug 2004, 03:00:00
Top

Re: How many people do you know on psych meds?

Postby Ludi » Mon 30 Jun 2008, 14:22:27

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('catbox', '
')So far no meds...not to say it won't happen, but I'm hoping not to go on meds period.


That's really great. :) Take care of yourself.
Ludi
 
Top

Re: How many people do you know on psych meds?

Postby Tyler_JC » Mon 30 Jun 2008, 14:59:21

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('lotrfan55345', '2')5-50%
I go to an American High School...

Most popular: amphetamine, fluoxetine, sertraline

The happiest (acting), most smiley person I know is on fluoxetine... I don't know why.


Side story about amphetamine (adderall):

I was at a study "party" last semester with a few people attempting to cram for a big geology exam.

It was getting late and we were starting to lose focus.

One of our group members decides that he needs a study aid. He proceeds to take an adderall, crush it into a powder, and snort it off of his geology book using a rolled up dollar bill...this was in a public library. 8O

I'm not a medical doctor, but I have a feeling that insuffilation is not the recommended administration technique of that particular substance.

"Study Drug" abuse is high on college campuses and it often goes unreported. Binge drinking and recreational drug use get all of the headlines, but the number of people who routinuely use ritalin and adderal (legally or illegally) to maintain their GPAs is scary.
"www.peakoil.com is the Myspace of the Apocalypse."
Tyler_JC
Expert
Expert
 
Posts: 5438
Joined: Sat 25 Sep 2004, 03:00:00
Location: Boston, MA
Top

Re: How many people do you know on psych meds?

Postby PenultimateManStanding » Mon 30 Jun 2008, 15:10:40

“Six Days on the Road”

Well, I pulled out of Pittsburgh,
Rollin' down the Eastern Seaboard.
I've got my diesel wound up,
And she's running like never before.
There's a speed zone ahead, all right,
I don't see a cop in sight.
Six days on the road and I'm gonna make it home tonight.

I got ten forward gears,
And a Georgia overdrive.
I'm taking little white pills,
And my eyes are open wide.
I just passed a 'Jimmy' and a 'White':
I've been passin' everything in sight.
Six days on the road and I'm gonna make it home tonight.



Amphetamines are popular in many walks of life. (btw, Tyler, your avatar is hilarious)
Turn those Machines back On! - Don Ameche in Trading Places
User avatar
PenultimateManStanding
Expert
Expert
 
Posts: 11363
Joined: Sun 28 Nov 2004, 04:00:00
Location: Neither Here Nor There

Re: How many people do you know on psych meds?

Postby JJ » Mon 30 Jun 2008, 15:28:07

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'H')ow are these zombies gonna function post-peak without their dope?


Better, after a while, maybe after a long while, but better.



:):):):)
yeah my mentor was takin adavan and merolil and synyquan and prozac and elavil and cogentin for the side effects and pot and coke and whiskey and meth and (you get it) he fell apart when he quit everything but he's doin great now...
User avatar
JJ
Heavy Crude
Heavy Crude
 
Posts: 1422
Joined: Tue 07 Aug 2007, 03:00:00
Top

Re: How many people do you know on psych meds?

Postby Polemic » Mon 30 Jun 2008, 15:46:35

Fluoxetine (Prozac) is 94% fluoride.

"I say this in all earnestness and sincerity of a scientist who has spent nearly 20 years research into the chemistry, biochemistry, physiology and pathology of fluorides. Any person who drinks artificially fluoridated water for a period of one year or more will never again be the same person."
-Charles Elliot Perkins

Fluoride causes cancer, lowers IQ, disrupts cell processes, etc.

That's why most U.S. cities fluoridate their water supply... to turn the public into drooling slaves.
User avatar
Polemic
Lignite
Lignite
 
Posts: 353
Joined: Sun 24 Sep 2006, 03:00:00
Location: Austin, TX

Re: How many people do you know on psych meds?

Postby vision-master » Mon 30 Jun 2008, 15:47:58

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Specop_007', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Specop_007', 'T')he government weed isnt grown in a abandoned cave. Well, not in America anyways.

I was for about a week. I said screw that, if that drug was considered normal I'll take insane any day! Threw that crap in the trash.

My wife is another story however.


Couldn’t handle the paranoia, eh. Maybe the green goddess is trying to tell you something. Possible ego problems maybe? :razz:


No, actually my father passed away 2 days after Thanksgiving. It Fark with me pretty badly, he was 52. I always knew at some point I'd have to bury my father, you know its a natural part of life. I sure as crap didnt expect it to be this soon though. So I tried to get something to take the edge off and get through life. Well, like I said. If those drugs are normal I'll take crazy any day.
So I said to myself its time to suck it up buttercup, I trashed the pills, made my peace with the passing of my father and moved on. :)

Well, I'm trying to anyways. :wink:


Inappropriate use.
vision-master
 
Top

Re: How many people do you know on psych meds?

Postby Polemic » Mon 30 Jun 2008, 15:49:02

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', ' ')"Fluoridation is an attempt by industry to camouflage their deadliest pollutant, with government officials and Madison Avenue advertisers beating the drums. The fluoridation empire is like a castle built on quicksand." says Gladys Caldwell, author, "Fluoridation and Truth Decay", 1974.

As far back as April of 1950 in the Journal of the American Dental Association, Vol 40:440, a study by G. J. Cox and H.C. Hodge, "Toxicity of Fluorides in Relation to Their Use in Dentistry", made it clear that fluoride is a poison: "Some of the basic and necessary metabolic processes in the cell are stopped by concentrations of fluorides such as are found in acute poisoning. These changes are comparable to those seen in high-grade anoxia (lack of sufficient oxygen in the body tissues) and are the basis for describing fluorides as general protoplasmic poisons." Fluorides have also been used historically for mind control:

Charles Elliot Perkins, research scientist sent by the US government to take charge of I.G. Farben chemical plants in Germany discovered that " The real purpose behind water fluoridation is to reduce the resistance of the masses to domination, control and loss of liberty." In his report to the Lee Foundation for Nutritional Research in October of 1954, he said, "Repeated doses of infinitesimal amounts of fluoride will in time reduce an individual's power to resist domination, by slowly poisoning and narcotizing a certain area of the brain, thus making him submissive to the will of those who wish to govern him."


Link
User avatar
Polemic
Lignite
Lignite
 
Posts: 353
Joined: Sun 24 Sep 2006, 03:00:00
Location: Austin, TX
Top

PreviousNext

Return to Open Topic Discussion

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest