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THE Mad Max Scenario Thread (merged)

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Re: Mad Max Future

Unread postby heroineworshipper » Fri 27 Jun 2008, 13:18:25

But Mad Max didn't have mortgage stimulus packages.
People first, then things, then dollars.
There will be enslavement, cannibalism, & zombie invasions.
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Re: Mad Max Future

Unread postby jlw61 » Fri 27 Jun 2008, 13:51:32

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('sittinguy', 'D')ouble taxes and inact martial law with a gaurdsman at every stop sign. I wonder if the gaurd at the end of my street will like oatmeal or chocolate chip?

And what will you pay the guardsman? Cookies? There aren't enough of them to begin with. This type of thing invariably would lead to a disarming of the populous which of course would then bring us the criminals with guns once the guardsman is gone.
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Re: Mad Max Future

Unread postby FourOfSwords » Fri 27 Jun 2008, 14:30:09

Not sure. If we take with a grain of salt how this all plays out, I venture that we might see a modern equivalent of what happened in the Late Roman Empire as they, empire wide, experienced gradual (and not so gradual contractions). During this, those that had the power base and the Dinarii, hired their own small security force/army. They were called Bucellarii. It was usually an estate owner, or senatorial class that had large enough holdings, that it was deamed necessary to defend,and that the local/provincial law enforcement/standing army could not respond in time to.
Fast forward to today, with the increasing use and selling of professional security firms, and the much increased use of paramilitary security forces in Iraq to give you a broad hint at a PO Mad Max world...or we could transition to a happy flower child like commune melieu... [smilie=hippy2.gif]
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Re: Mad Max Future

Unread postby Pops » Fri 27 Jun 2008, 14:38:27

This is the Doing Forum folks, not the Speculating Forum.

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Re: Mad Max Future

Unread postby roccman » Fri 27 Jun 2008, 14:54:33

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pops', 'T')his is the Doing Forum folks, not the Speculating Forum. :)

Exactly!!
So - grab that shovel - dig that hole - bury that bunker and assume the crash position!!!
DO IT NOW!!!!!!!!
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Re: Mad Max Future

Unread postby TheDude » Sat 28 Jun 2008, 02:06:25

It involves problems that will be of more importance as fuel becomes more scarce, in situations that are evident right now, so this is not Speculation. Planning in isolation is only useful if you're ready to spread the word to your neighbors, or if you're Ed Abbey sitting out on a mesa, and crime will become a part of everyday life with millions unemployed and hungry. To think otherwise is comparable to a neocon preparing to spread democracy in the Middle East. I intended this thread to generate some useful discussion, despite the title. Also gave the choice of venue some thought. If Guns belong in PFTF why not Crime, hmm?

The forum guidelines at this site couldn't be more lax anyway. 6,000,000,000 die-off has nothing directly to do with hydrocarbon depletion, yet there all 59 pages of it are in the Peak Oil Discussion. We should have a special forum for these wallowing in corpses yaps: Monte's Fun Fest of Capacity Overshoot. Like anybody's going to care if it's 2 billion dead or 3 billion at the moment. :x

The other replies (especially FourOfSwords's) offers the sort of input I was looking for.
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Re: Mad Max Future

Unread postby Rogozhin » Sat 28 Jun 2008, 02:40:11

Mad Max!!!???
Have you all completely lost it?
That's a rethorical question because I know that a majority of you have lost 'it' and have a modus operandi that is not specific to your quiddity.
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Re: Mad Max Future

Unread postby MD » Sat 28 Jun 2008, 05:03:27

moved to "open discussion"- md
Stop filling dumpsters, as much as you possibly can, and everything will get better.

Just think it through.
It's not hard to do.
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Re: Mad Max Future

Unread postby Ludi » Sat 28 Jun 2008, 09:38:18

Folks in "Mad Max" seemed to have plenty of gasoline to go driving all over the place......
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Re: Mad Max Future

Unread postby BigTex » Sat 28 Jun 2008, 10:04:52

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', 'F')olks in "Mad Max" seemed to have plenty of gasoline to go driving all over the place......

I always thought the same thing.
There was clearly a shortage of the stuff, but they all seemed to find enough to chase each other around.
Even though the third movie was the weakest of the three, at least in that one it explained the source of energy they were using.
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Re: Mad Max Future

Unread postby mobil1 » Sat 28 Jun 2008, 10:54:33

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('BigTex', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', 'F')olks in "Mad Max" seemed to have plenty of gasoline to go driving all over the place......

I always thought the same thing.
There was clearly a shortage of the stuff, but they all seemed to find enough to chase each other around.
Even though the third movie was the weakest of the three, at least in that one it explained the source of energy they were using.

With mean looking superchargers and turbos no less.
Somehow I see more of a "Mad Max" with Priuses and bikes, motors or not.
Yes, if oil and gas become much more valuable and in shortage to the masses, transport will require something closer to armored cars currently used for transport of cash money and other high valuables.
We've heard of truck hijackings for high value loads. Even a recent story of a truck full of chicken !!! I've never heard of a gas tanker truck being hijacked, but I suspect we will soon.
Maybe some peak oil survivalist(s) will do it. Steal a tanker trunk, drive it into a hole in the ground and cover it with dirt. Instant underground gas tank for the coming Maxian world. :)
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Re: Mad Max Future

Unread postby joelcolorado » Sat 28 Jun 2008, 12:32:22

I think that the huge numbers of ppl who own weapons in the USA will keep things from getting too far out of hand. We will form neighborhood militias at the worst case and maintain our own law and order like in the past.
People will rise to the occasion and there are always enough people like me who can and will take the innitiative and cause othes to be civil. Even by force of arms if need be.
There are plenty of ppl with military experience who will be available to help maintain the peace etc. Might work better than what we have now if everyone was in on it as then each person would be responsible for safety. Like in Israel. They all have machine guns but none of them shoot each other.
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Re: Mad Max Future

Unread postby Ludi » Sat 28 Jun 2008, 13:05:35

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Re: Mad Max Future

Unread postby joelcolorado » Sat 28 Jun 2008, 13:06:44

those biker chicks are the type that you get done with sex and go...I am done...and they say

OH NO YOUR NOT
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Re: Mad Max Future

Unread postby cannedsalmon » Sun 29 Jun 2008, 22:44:04

Close, but not correct.

The Mad Empire:

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Re: Mad Max Future

Unread postby BigTex » Sun 29 Jun 2008, 23:37:25

This looks like a good place to insert a few shots from "The Switchblade Sisters."

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Re: Mad Max Future

Unread postby manu » Mon 30 Jun 2008, 02:31:12

Or maybe Olga the Hun and her horsewomen will kill and plunder from Central Asia to Europe.
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Re: Mad Max Future

Unread postby skeptik » Mon 30 Jun 2008, 03:12:41

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', 'F')olks in "Mad Max" seemed to have plenty of gasoline to go driving all over the place......

Of course. You can't have an action movie without a car chase or two. In the movies, resources of all types magically appear for no good reason when appropriate to the plot. There isn't, perchance, some confusion between fantasy and reality going on in this thread?

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('golem', '
')What about Mad Maxine?

I wouldn't go out on a date with her unless she promised to shower, shampoo and put on some clean clothes. Then I'd pick her up in my car. The smell of burnt bike oil doesn't do it for me.
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Re: Mad Max Future

Unread postby cannedsalmon » Mon 30 Jun 2008, 05:13:11

I know a biker who throws in one of those small vials of lavender oil in each fillup, when she drives around she smells like a lavender plant going by.

a quarter cup of peanut oil in the tank smells like roasted peanuts, makes you hungry.

You can mix small quantities of any oil in your gas no problem, the odor comes through nicely, I was thinking of peppermint in my bike.
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