[Roy]

[Micki]

Roy, my reflection was more that we haven't heard about cannibalism in starving nations.
War etc seems to affect people in a different way and brings out more extremes. But do we know of any poor nation or place that resported to cannibalism? Haiti, North Korea, Darfur, Eritrea?
I can't think of any.
(Maybe there wasn't enough meet on the bones once they started thinking about it???)

[JJ]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Micki', 'R')oy, my reflection was more that we haven't heard about cannibalism in starving nations.
War etc seems to affect people in a different way and brings out more extremes. But do we know of any poor nation or place that resported to cannibalism? Haiti, North Korea, Darfur, Eritrea?
I can't think of any.
(Maybe there wasn't enough meet on the bones once they started thinking about it???)

[TheDude]

There was suspiciously fresh meat on the black market during the Siege of Leningrad, too. People were making soup from leather coat buttons and the like.

No corn? Qu'ils mangent de la brioche.

US crop projected down 3.2% so far due to floods.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'Y')ou. Will. Not. Be. Able. To. Get. Food.

[FoxV]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('cube', 'c')ube's 333 theory
1) keep an eyeball on those 3 foods
2) production of all 3 will eventually drop
3) repeat this 3 years in a row

[cube]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Drifter', 'w')isconsin_cur, thanks for those useful calculations. Looks like OF2's cherry-picked info just got slapped back into reality.

[Zardoz]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Drifter', 'L')ooks like OF2's cherry-picked info just got slapped back into reality.

[VMarcHart]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Drifter', 'A') 3% ton worldwide surplus of wheat between supply and demand not a very large buffer.

[cube]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('VMarcHart', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Drifter', 'A') 3% ton worldwide surplus of wheat between supply and demand not a very large buffer.

[VMarcHart]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('cube', 'O')nly people who truly deserve it get the "Troll" label.

Do we really need *another* thread on this same topic, in addition to the long one in Current Energy News??
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('cube', 'N')ow to answer your question this has already been mentioned in the previous posts but I'll summarize it.
corn, wheat, rice make up 50% of world food intake.
Only wheat has shown a gain while the rest is in decline.

[Tyler_JC]

1. The United States is the world's largest food exporter by a huge margin. Wheat, corn, beef, soybeans, sorghum, you name it. The American surplus of corn alone is 55 MILLION tons. I don't know what that looks like in terms of calories but I imagine it's a rather large number.

2. The US is attacked at the UN every year because it produces too much food. So much food that it actually drives down the price of agricultural products in developing countries, leading to market distortions and the destruction of small/local farmers in many countries.

3.Half of US Foods Goes to Waste!

4. Half of Americans are overweight and could stand to lose a couple pounds.

5. Healthier Americans would consume less food (no need to sustain that extra body fat).

6. When we finally give up this corn ethanol nonsense (and we're already starting to drop it), that quarter of the corn crop that is currently being burned will be shifted over to the food industry.

7. Most of America's grain is given to animals. As we all know, meat is an extremely grain-intensive food source.

Basically, I'm not worried. I'm so not worried about it that I'm literally betting my life on it by ignoring the advice to run off to the countryside and start a farm.

Let's compare qualities of life in 20 years.

[yesplease]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('wisconsin_cur', 'Y')eah big excess


Math help online

[Jenab6]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vetusfirma', 'b')ut micki, your not cool if you don't scandalize by using the word cannibal. and there is also the donner party.

I kind of think they will make good fertilizer, and we are gonna need fertilizer, you know like the pilgrims. Or we could boil them down like whale's and sell the oil, or use it in lamps. Romans had a lot of luck burning them. And people are cheap, look how many there are, and its a renewable resource, you will never run out.

Maybe we could make a book about 101 uses for......well you get the idea.

[cube]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Tyler_JC', '1'). The United States is the world's largest food exporter by a huge margin. Wheat, corn, beef, soybeans, sorghum, you name it. The American surplus of corn alone is 55 MILLION tons. I don't know what that looks like in terms of calories but I imagine it's a rather large number.
.....
7. Most of America's grain is given to animals. As we all know, meat is an extremely grain-intensive food source.

Basically, I'm not worried. I'm so not worried about it that I'm literally betting my life on it by ignoring the advice to run off to the countryside and start a farm.

[wisconsin_cur]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('yesplease', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('wisconsin_cur', 'Y')eah big excess


Math help online

[cube]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('wisconsin_cur', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('yesplease', 'A') decade ago, the grain used for livestock from the US alone would've been able to feed nearly 20% of the population of the world. Include waste from spoilage and whatnot and we're at nearly another ~2 billion. Toss in grain use for livestock world wide and we're probably at ~50+% of current food production. That's a pretty big excess IMO!

We could probably double food production and we would still have people starving. It's not about lack of food, it's about greed and waste, which has been around for decades wrt the farming revolution. Besides, how can you condone stuff w/ absolute headlines like what the OP linked?

[Homesteader]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('wisconsin_cur', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('yesplease', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('wisconsin_cur', 'Y')eah big excess


Math help online

[yesplease]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Drifter', 'I')n a perfect world, less grains could be given to livestock and instead used for human consumption. But the problem is that we don't live in a perfect world. It's never going to happen. People want their meat, no matter what. Same with driving cars. I'm so tired of idealistic-minded people saying that alternative technologies and conservation are going to make everything ok. It won't because that's not the way the real world works. The real world is not a controlled laboratory experiment. The real world is full of unpredictable, selfish, and greedy people who will never voluntarily give up what they think they need.