[mos6507]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('diemos', '
')I think we have a ways to go before that point but I still wrestle with the ethical question. By what right should I and my loved ones live if that survival can only be purchased with the death of others?

[bodigami]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pops', '(')...)
At what point along your Hobbsian scale do you plan to exit?

[bodigami]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('BigTex', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mos6507', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('BigTex', 'F')or anyone who has read "The Road" by Cormac McCarthy, you will recall the scene after the world ended in which the wife of the hero simply decided she didn't want to live in a ruined world, explained this to her husband and committed suicide.

It was described in such stark terms it was just as chilling as the rest of the book.

The fact that the hero understood his wife's reasons and didn't find her decision surprising was even more chilling.

(It happened early in the book. Don't worry, no spoiler.)

[bodigami]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('diemos', '"')Is there no one you care enough for to try and help? "

If you believe in die-off then in order for you to survive others must die. Even if you're not killing them directly with a gun or a rock you can only secure the resources necessary to keep you alive by denying them to others and ensuring their death.

I think we have a ways to go before that point but I still wrestle with the ethical question. By what right should I and my loved ones live if that survival can only be purchased with the death of others?

[Ivan_M]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('diemos', ' ') By what right should I and my loved ones live if that survival can only be purchased with the death of others?

[Pops]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('zensui', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pops', '(')...)
At what point along your Hobbsian scale do you plan to exit?

[JPL]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('diemos', '
')I'm sure that there are plenty of people who have no inclination to outlast the current civilization and when TSHTF plan to gracefully bow out and leave y'all to your Hobbsian struggle for survival.

Personally I'm grateful to have lived through the pinnacle of our civilization.

[joelcolorado]

My grandfather said that on average, people ate once every 3 days during the depression and he knew of ppl who starved in Kansas.

[BigTex]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pops', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('zensui', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pops', '(')...)
At what point along your Hobbsian scale do you plan to exit?