[joelcolorado]

Has anyone given thought to what is going to happen as the price of oil and other power goes up significantly. I believe that the elderly and poor will suffer the most as they wont be able to afford heat and cooling and will subsequently die at an earlier age.

Retirement homes will not be heated and cooled the way they are currently and the age of persons alive will once again sink to pre 60's levels. The ease of life has extended many ppls lives this far.

Just look how many ppl die in chicago during a heat wave and magnifythat all over the southern part of the USA. That and the rising cost of medicine will do the same, depleting the aged.
joel

[Byron100]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('joelcolorado', 'H')as anyone given thought to what is going to happen as the price of oil and other power goes up significantly. I believe that the elderly and poor will suffer the most as they wont be able to afford heat and cooling and will subsequently die at an earlier age.
Retirement homes will not be heated and cooled the way they are currently and the age of persons alive will once again sink to pre 60's levels. The ease of life has extended many ppls lives this far.
Just look how many ppl die in chicago during a heat wave and magnifythat all over the southern part of the USA. That and the rising cost of medicine will do the same, depleting the aged.
joel

[Plantagenet]

The stupid, weak and sick will also die in disproportionate numbers in a tragic and unneccessary demonstration of Charles Darwin's theory of natural selection.

[eastbay]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', 'T')he stupid, weak and sick will also die in disproportionate numbers in a tragic and unneccessary demonstration of Charles Darwin's theory of natural selection

[Dreamtwister]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('joelcolorado', 'H')as anyone given thought to what is going to happen as the price of oil and other power goes up significantly.

[Byron100]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', 'T')he stupid, weak and sick will also die in disproportionate numbers in a tragic and unneccessary demonstration of Charles Darwin's theory of natural selection

[eastbay]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Byron100', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', 'T')he stupid, weak and sick will also die in disproportionate numbers in a tragic and unneccessary demonstration of Charles Darwin's theory of natural selection.

[Blacksmith]

While I might agree with age as a detrimental factor. I do not think that your lack of accets will effect you survivability. One the poor know how to work, can make do with less, and can steal. On their own, the rich and those who sit in front of a computer all day will die.

[seldom_seen]

During the pandemic flu of 1918, the most common victims were young adults. If peak oil leads to a breakdown in heating/cooling, there will be a breakdown in sanitation as well. Possibly spawning new and virulent strains of flu and other pathogens.

It's anybody's guess who might get the smackdown and when? Exciting, huh? :)

[yogiudo]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('joelcolorado', 'A')nother thing to consider, is that the poor do vote, and yes, they will vote for leaders that will do *whatever it takes* to keep them alive...so just be ready for this. There no avoiding it, so get used to this idea now. We're all in this together, like it or not.

[killJOY]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he stupid, weak and sick will also die in disproportionate numbers in a tragic and unneccessary demonstration of Charles Darwin's theory of natural selection.

[joelcolorado]

Okay, thanks for the posts and opinions. Part of my thots were based on my wife being a doctor. Some ppl have over $1,000 a month in medicine costs. You have
Heart Medicine
Diabetes Medicine
Blood thinners
Sleep apnea medicine
Liver
and on and on.
Any of those come up in short supply or ppl lose their co-pay plans, and they cant afford them anymore. She said thats why so many ppl died early in past generations. No one had insulin etc. and without that, you die quick. No amount of home health can save those ppl. And if you see one of my other posts
One person every 4 seconds is being diagnosed with diabetes. It will thin out...no pun intended. ...those people for sure.
I am just shocked at what meds cost, etc. And how many ppl HAVE to have them or they will not survive. MILLIONS.

The lack of airconditioning will certainly take a toll too on the young and elderly. No more premmie babies surviving etc. Bad i know

[Ivan_M]

the old and the poor have ALWAYS died first and they always will. simply because they are old and they are poor.

[Ferretlover]

Those who have skills, knowledge and an intense will to survive will fare better than those who refuse to remove their belief in TPTB and being politically correct.
Disease, lack of treatment & medication, an unwilliness to even attempt to work for food and shelter will do in a great many.
I predict there will be many who will line up for the food distribution trucks and won't want to understand why they are only getting a small chunk of cheese or a can of tomato sauce (because that was all that was left in the food bank).
Heart attacks, suicides and homicide will increase the dieoff count.

[Pops]

My thot is that some old ppl actually have kids that may care to help them.

I do know some little about truly lifesaving medications such as insulin, but also about snake oil medications as profit centers:

Am I snoring or is it my jittery leg problem or perhaps I need help sleeping more than ten hours or should I have a Botox injection?

I'm thinking we'll live longer without the cost of Snake Medicine Marketing.

[kpeavey]

the young and the old often have less fat reserves to survive a famine
they have less strength to fight for survival, and weakness makes them a target
the young have not developed a strong immune system, the old have compromised immune systems
the young do not have political prowess, let alone the network to use it
the old more often accept death and are more willing to let it come
the young lack wisdom as to how the world works, although this is a strength in the old.

[Dreamtwister]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('joelcolorado', 'S')ome ppl have over $1,000 a month in medicine costs. You have
Heart Medicine
Diabetes Medicine
Blood thinners
Sleep apnea medicine
Liver
and on and on.

[Byron100]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')hat is intentional. It's a lot easier to control the people if they think that rising up against their oppressors will cause them to die of some horrible disease. Ask your wife about the statistics on people who are over-medicated.

[joelcolorado]

Without lawsuits there would be less costs to the doctors for liability insurance too. I know both sides. Lets take this further. Food is a basic need. So
NO PROFIT IN FOOD EITHER.
No profit in gasoline,,,youhave to have it.
No profit in anything for that matter.
THINK, profit is what drives competition and makes medicine so good here as far as safe etc.

Who is going to work 85 hours a week on call all the time etc. like my wife if there is no money in it. Might as well work at the quick shop etc. and then you can get your health care from some tech.

Profit is not a dirty word. Without it, no one has a job......NO ONE>