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After You, Sir....

Unread postby charliebrownout » Mon 12 May 2008, 15:18:38

http://www.infowars.com/?p=2076

Prince Phillip: lovin' the die off.

I think this proves one thing quite clearly: there is a population problem. The problem is that we have too many rich old people on the planet (specifically elites). I say Phillip and Ted Turner go first, what say the rest of you?
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Re: After You, Sir....

Unread postby joeltrout » Mon 12 May 2008, 15:30:16

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('charliebrownout', ' ')I say Phillip and Ted Turner go first, what say the rest of you?


I couldn't open the link so I am not sure what it says.

Without the "elites" modern day society would not exist. They didn't get rich because they invented money. They got rich because they provided a service that the US and/or world needed and was willing pay a lot of money for.

I am happy for them.

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Re: After You, Sir....

Unread postby Ferretlover » Mon 12 May 2008, 15:39:06

I didn't realize that that the Royal Family had so many ties to the Nazis!
I have seen a lot of newsreels and stories about the Duke of Windsor who gave up his throne, who was quite enamoured of Hitler.
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Re: After You, Sir....

Unread postby gnm » Mon 12 May 2008, 15:41:39

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('joeltrout', 'W')ithout the "elites" modern day society would not exist. They didn't get rich because they invented money. They got rich because they provided a service that the US and/or world needed and was willing pay a lot of money for.

I am happy for them.

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Actually those few who fall into that category have largely leveraged the money that one of their ancestors made doing legitimate (providing something someone wanted) work for their own benefit simply to make more money and damn the consequences to society, environment and anyone else as long as they get richer still. Takes money to make money as it were. In the case of English "monarchy" they simply stole it just like their thieving power hungry ancestors.

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Re: After You, Sir....

Unread postby charliebrownout » Mon 12 May 2008, 15:44:51

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('joeltrout', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('charliebrownout', ' ')I say Phillip and Ted Turner go first, what say the rest of you?


I couldn't open the link so I am not sure what it says.

Without the "elites" modern day society would not exist. They didn't get rich because they invented money. They got rich because they provided a service that the US and/or world needed and was willing pay a lot of money for.

I am happy for them.

joeltrout



It is hard to be impressed with elites. Most of them aren't "self-made". Most just had the good fortune to be born to rich people in the first place (particularly in the case of the royals).

Generally speaking, a live and let live attitude is a healthier one. I only vote the elites go first, because, frankly, I think they have as much right to be here as anyone else up to the moment they start advocating eugenics and murder by proxy.
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Re: After You, Sir....

Unread postby joeltrout » Mon 12 May 2008, 15:51:40

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It is hard to be impressed with elites. Most of them aren't "self-made". Most just had the good fortune to be born to rich people in the first place (particularly in the case of the royals).

Generally speaking, a live and let live attitude is a healthier one. I only vote the elites go first, because, frankly, I think they have as much right to be here as anyone else up to the moment they start advocating eugenics and murder by proxy.


Ok I was able to open the link and took a look.

I am not trying to pick a fight but how does Ted Turner come into play? He was self-made if I am not mistaken and values conservation of nature. He is one of the largest private landowners in the US which helps stops the massive subdivision and developement of large ranches.

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Re: After You, Sir....

Unread postby Ludi » Mon 12 May 2008, 15:52:53

One of the primary features of civilization is the existence of "elites."

So, if we want a civilization, we'll probably have to put up with elites. If we don't want elites, we should probably not have a civilization.

http://anthropik.com/2005/03/what-is-civilization/
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Re: After You, Sir....

Unread postby charliebrownout » Mon 12 May 2008, 16:09:23

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
')Ok I was able to open the link and took a look.

I am not trying to pick a fight but how does Ted Turner come into play? He was self-made if I am not mistaken and values conservation of nature. He is one of the largest private landowners in the US which helps stops the massive subdivision and developement of large ranches.

joeltrout


No, I don't want to pick one either. I'm just shooting my mouth off a bit. I saw a clip of Ted Turner saying we're all going to be eating each other by 2030. I just kind of threw him in there because he kind of annoys me with the things he says. I know that's not really fair.

Honestly, I think if we (people in general) were willing to share, act humanely, and not horde things we'd be just fine. I don't like the "one child policy" people. I don't think ANY government should have that much authority.

Each to their own, but the quotes from Phillip (which are only loosely related to my little tangent here) really chafe my arse.
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Re: After You, Sir....

Unread postby Ludi » Mon 12 May 2008, 16:12:43

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('charliebrownout', 'T')ed Turner saying we're all going to be eating each other by 2030.


That's a very popular position here at po.com. Inevitable barbarism and cannibalism.

Zombie Hordes! 8O
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Re: After You, Sir....

Unread postby threadbear » Mon 12 May 2008, 16:13:22

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('joeltrout', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('charliebrownout', ' ')I say Phillip and Ted Turner go first, what say the rest of you?


I couldn't open the link so I am not sure what it says.

Without the "elites" modern day society would not exist. They didn't get rich because they invented money. They got rich because they provided a service that the US and/or world needed and was willing pay a lot of money for.

I am happy for them.

joeltrout


Pfft. They made money the old fashioned way. They inherited it.
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Re: After You, Sir....

Unread postby charliebrownout » Mon 12 May 2008, 16:16:52

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('charliebrownout', 'T')ed Turner saying we're all going to be eating each other by 2030.


That's a very popular position here at po.com. Inevitable barbarism and cannibalism.

Zombie Hordes! 8O


I know, but there is just something about Mr. More-money-than-God talking about it as though deeply worried. If it were to happen, you know he'd be off in some ivory tower, surrounded by land and well-fed body guards.

Meanwhile, I'm SOL. So, chalk it up to sour grapes. :lol:
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Re: After You, Sir....

Unread postby charliebrownout » Mon 12 May 2008, 16:18:30

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Pfft. They made money the old fashioned way. They inherited it.


Yep. Too bad the rest of us suckers didn't have the good taste to be born to wealthier folks. Shame on us :lol:
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Re: After You, Sir....

Unread postby mos6507 » Mon 12 May 2008, 16:32:40

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gnm', '
')Actually those few who fall into that category have largely leveraged the money that one of their ancestors made doing legitimate (providing something someone wanted) work for their own benefit simply to make more money and damn the consequences to society, environment and anyone else as long as they get richer still. Takes money to make money as it were. In the case of English "monarchy" they simply stole it just like their thieving power hungry ancestors.


If you want to say the sins of the father should pass to the son... The reason you and everyone else's genes have survived through the aeons to this day owes itself to some morally questionable behavior somewhere in your family tree. They don't call it survival of the fittest for nothing.
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Re: After You, Sir....

Unread postby threadbear » Mon 12 May 2008, 16:34:14

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('charliebrownout', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
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Pfft. They made money the old fashioned way. They inherited it.


Yep. Too bad the rest of us suckers didn't have the good taste to be born to wealthier folks. Shame on us :lol:


or they stole it, or acquired it through devious means. Get a load of this. It's one thing to steal candy from a baby, but what about manipulating food right out of the entire family's pockets, when they're starving, and attaching interest to what you will steal in the future?

Greg Palast Vulture capitalists:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qbxj8azQb80
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Re: After You, Sir....

Unread postby mos6507 » Mon 12 May 2008, 16:34:21

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('charliebrownout', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
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Pfft. They made money the old fashioned way. They inherited it.


Yep. Too bad the rest of us suckers didn't have the good taste to be born to wealthier folks. Shame on us :lol:


Everything's relative. You're a wealthy elite compared to some starving ethiopian.
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Re: After You, Sir....

Unread postby threadbear » Mon 12 May 2008, 16:35:28

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mos6507', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('charliebrownout', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
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Pfft. They made money the old fashioned way. They inherited it.


Yep. Too bad the rest of us suckers didn't have the good taste to be born to wealthier folks. Shame on us :lol:


Everything's relative. You're a wealthy elite compared to some starving ethiopian.


True. See link above. There is a special place in Hell for people like Sheehan.
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Re: After You, Sir....

Unread postby Ludi » Mon 12 May 2008, 16:37:42

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mos6507', 'T')he reason you and everyone else's genes have survived through the aeons to this day owes itself to some morally questionable behavior somewhere in your family tree. They don't call it survival of the fittest for nothing.


Or because they engaged in mutually supportive behavior and thus were enabled to reach breeding age and raise their own offspring to adulthood.
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Re: After You, Sir....

Unread postby charliebrownout » Mon 12 May 2008, 16:41:05

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If you want to say the sins of the father should pass to the son... The reason you and everyone else's genes have survived through the aeons to this day owes itself to some morally questionable behavior somewhere in your family tree. They don't call it survival of the fittest for nothing.


Maybe, maybe not. It seems like such a crap shoot. Inherited traits are quite different from inherited bank rolls, though.

As for the sins passing on, I would say, in some cases they do. At least, insofar as the offspring adopt the beliefs/practices of evil ancestors.

The royals are a pretty good example.

Beyond that, speaking of eugenics, if the royals and the "elites" are the fittest the human race really is screwed. They aren't exactly the prettiest or the brightest cast of characters.

Seriously, take the elite's money and make them work for their survival. How many (aside from the self-made) could do it?
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Re: After You, Sir....

Unread postby charliebrownout » Mon 12 May 2008, 16:48:24

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mos6507', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('charliebrownout', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
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Pfft. They made money the old fashioned way. They inherited it.


Yep. Too bad the rest of us suckers didn't have the good taste to be born to wealthier folks. Shame on us :lol:


Everything's relative. You're a wealthy elite compared to some starving ethiopian.


Yes, no argument there. We should share with each other willingly. I've participated in groups over the years which aim to give to food banks and the hungry. It is a pitiful drop in the bucket, though.

I wish I had an answer. I love kids. I love my own and other people's. It hurts to think of the innocents starving and suffering just because people haven't figured out a way to share this earth with other people as well as other living things.
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Re: After You, Sir....

Unread postby charliebrownout » Mon 12 May 2008, 16:52:25

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
')Greg Palast Vulture capitalists:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qbxj8azQb80


Vulture capitalists are a special kind of evil. They remind me of something said on the Daily Show the other night about Presidents and their "spiritual advisors"....

They need spiritual advisors because they transgress against God in ways we can't even imagine.

It was said with regard to presidents, but I think it applies to these "vultures" quite well.
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