[Cloud9]

Fear is what is felt by a subject rather than a citizen.

[BigQuake]

The criminals will retaliate by wearing marx brother glasses with a big nose. Seriously.

[eXpat]

hmm, armbands in red with some kind of logo in white and black combine perfectly with black uniforms... and as a plus they instill some sense of fear too!

[Hagakure_Leofman]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cloud9', 'F')ear is what is felt by a subject rather than a citizen.

[PenultimateManStanding]

My maternal grandfather was once the Chief of Police in Chula Vista, California. I remember him as a kind old guy. He gave me coin collections when I was a boy. The last time I saw him before he passed on soon after was in a trailer in Ensenada, Baja California, Mexico where I was on my way to tour hot springs with some of my college friends. He was a police chief in a different era. Call it the Andy Griffith of Mayberry Era. No crystal meth, no sense then that the streets are insane. I have an unpleasant premonition that the work of police officers is going to continue to get weirder and more violent and dangerous. It's a shame, because the underlying premise of police work is the thin blue line between order and chaos. When we lose the police, we're on our own.

[jasonraymondson]

Or against the police on our own

[PenultimateManStanding]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jasonraymondson', 'O')r against the police on our own

[jasonraymondson]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jasonraymondson', 'O')r against the police on our own

[PenultimateManStanding]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jasonraymondson', '
')That is all that I am saying

[Novus]

The Police have changed just as much if not more so than the streets. Police these days have assault rifles in their trunks and are trained in para-military tactics. The police of today are meant to be feared not respected. There are no cops of old any more just storm troopers.

[dunewalker]

PMS, that's cool. Your grandfather probably was COP when I was a kid growing up in CV (1946-1964). I used to hang out at my best friend's house around the corner, because his dad was a real carpenter, immigrated from Germany/Austria after WW2. I'm sure you know of him & his wife, as they named a school after them in CV not too long ago. He helped his son & me set up a telegraph between our two houses, wired along the neighbors' back fences. We had fun with it until some kid chopped the wire into little pieces, I guess because he didn't know the code. Carpenter dad used to play chess with the mayor of CV, which impressed me at the time, not knowing what scum politicians really were. My best friend & I used to pick on the little punk kid across the street. I guess later on he became a county supervisor & was largely responsible for the creation of the Olympic training center near there...

[PenultimateManStanding]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dunewalker', ' ')My best friend & I used to pick on the little punk kid across the street. I guess later on he became a county supervisor & was largely responsible for the creation of the Olympic training center near there...

[Ferretlover]

My maternal grandfather was a prison guard at the Yuma Territorial Prison. He died 2 months after I was born. He was of German descent; I was told he was very strict, "never speak to an adult until you are spoken to" kind of guy.

[jasonraymondson]

I remember this bully we had at our school, we were in 8th grade and one of the dumbasses was picking on one of the special ed kids, so I told him to knock it off and then the stupid fucker grabbed the kid and threw him into the locker so I got pissed and knocked him through one of the locker doors face first, busted the damn thing of its hinges and broke the guys nose, and jaw. I got suspended for a week, but it was well worth it. He never learned a lesson from the event, but he left school and now from what I understand is in prison

[PenultimateManStanding]

There was a kid named Billy in my high school who lived a couple houses away from me. He was getting picked on badly by a bully. What the bully didn't know was that Billy had some powerful older friends. They took the bully down and let Billy have at him. Billy put him in the hospital. Many years later, I mean many years, Billy's son was annoying a recluse with his skateboard and was shot dead. It made the local news.

[dunewalker]

Didn't mean to give you guys the wrong impression of me there -- "picking on" in that case consisted mainly of not including him in our adventures, as he was younger. Things like climbing Mt. Miguel, playing cops & robbers with the border patrol in the canyons behind the high school (yes, there really were wild hills around there back then, PMS).

[PenultimateManStanding]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jasonraymondson', 'I') got suspended for a week

[PenultimateManStanding]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dunewalker', ' ')Things like climbing Mt. Miguel, playing cops & robbers with the border patrol in the canyons behind the high school (yes, there really were wild hills around there back then, PMS).

[frankthetank]

PMS-

My father was a cop for over 20 years (he died over 15 yrs ago) and i still have people ask me if i'm related and then they rattle on about how this or that happened and then it usually ends with them saying "man things have changed" or "those were the days". Back then the cops had a lot more "freedom" i think then they do now. Now its just trying to avoid lawsuits and listening to your superiors. However, it seems back then that cops were able to "bend" the rules way more then they are able to today. I've heard some pretty good ones!

My grandpa (moms side) was the chief on the fire department. (that would've been back during the early 60's.

I've never worked for the government, but i've grown up around lots of government employees, which gives you a good sense of how it all works.

[PenultimateManStanding]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dunewalker', '
')(yes, there really were wild hills around there back then, PMS).