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Insects - the food of the future? (merged)

Unread postby Scooter_Rider » Thu 24 Feb 2005, 03:23:23

Insects are delicious and nutritious. Well, maybe not delicious. :) But certainly nutritious. I have a very good survival book called SAS Survival Guide. In it the author talks about how insects are the most readily and easily obtainable food in a survival situation. He also talks about how nutritious they are for their size. I understand that farming is the plan for many people here. Grow your own veggies and cows. But your home or farm could easliy be overrun by starving people immediately after a hard crash. Things might not work out quite like you planned. Just remember that there are other foods to eat (if you want to live)- namely insects. Don't forget to boil them first to kill the poisons and parasites. Yum. 8)
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Unread postby smallpoxgirl » Thu 24 Feb 2005, 04:57:04

There is an enzyme called trehalase that is made by every human intestine. It's only job is to digest trehalose. Trehalose is a sugar that is found in only two places...mushrooms and insect blood. At some point in our history, we ate an awful lot of one or the other. I'd bet mostly insects.
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Unread postby Doly » Thu 24 Feb 2005, 05:29:25

Not all insects are good to eat. For a start, some may carry diseases (especially those found in animal carcasses, dung or trash). Others may be toxic. I wouldn't recommend that anybody starts eating insects without a good knowledge of which ones are safe.
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Unread postby katkinkate » Thu 24 Feb 2005, 05:39:53

There are still places where people eat insects and other similar little creatures. In Cambodia and the Amazon they eat spiders (deep fried and roasted). In the bible it talks of people eating plague locusts (grasshoppers). John the Baptist was supposed to have subsisted on locusts and wild honey in the wilderness. You can buy chocolate covered ants, grasshoppers and others in France. Bon appatite :P
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Unread postby gg3 » Thu 24 Feb 2005, 06:49:55

Scooter, you're welcome to have my serving of insects, and I'll have another slice of bread.

Thanks:-)

Now just to add a bit more fire to the flame here, I've heard it said that the human taste-preference for things that are crunchy on the outside and chewy on the inside, is a holdover from the days of insect-eating.

For example French fries.

Still, I'll stick to the fries, and y'all can have my portion of grasshoppers.
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Unread postby Lehyina » Thu 24 Feb 2005, 08:34:07

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'D')on't forget to boil them first to kill the poisons and parasites.

How do I boil them when there is no more oil, no more gas, no more electricity, no more firewood etc...?
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Unread postby Ludi » Thu 24 Feb 2005, 08:41:57

Use your solar cooker.

http://solarcooking.org/plans.htm
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Unread postby Tyler_JC » Thu 24 Feb 2005, 09:44:24

If we ever get to the point where eating insects is necesary for survival, shoot me. Even if I'm helping you look for the grubs, shoot me. It's like the old, "I'm a in a coma, take me off life support" thing. I don't want to be eating bugs and I don't plan on it. I'm not that bad of a farmer anyway. (or at least I think I'm not that bad)
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Unread postby RealityCheckBounced » Thu 24 Feb 2005, 11:31:24

I'm with Tyler, if it gets that bad i'll be eating a bullet. They probably taste better.
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Unread postby KiddieKorral » Thu 24 Feb 2005, 11:53:11

Suit yourselves.

Are carpenter ant larvae edible? There's a nest of them in my neighbor's tree.
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Unread postby gnm » Thu 24 Feb 2005, 12:16:07

Kiddie - yes they are -

Man I'd have to be pretty damn hungry first....

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Unread postby RealityCheckBounced » Thu 24 Feb 2005, 12:26:08

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', 'U')se your solar cooker.

http://solarcooking.org/plans.htm


I used to cook ants with a solar cooker when i was a kid. It was a magnifying glass. I never ate them though. :-D

Seriously though if we would have to resort to eating bugs, think of the quality of life your looking forward to. Basically trying to squeeze of few more drops of life out of a miserable unhealthy disease ridden exsistance of starvation. If I was in a survival situation in a battlefeild and needed to get by until i was rescued to be return to a normal life then fine, but if i'm going to do to get me through "the golden years" i'll pass. But to each his own.
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Unread postby eastbay » Thu 24 Feb 2005, 15:50:47

That thought has crossed my mind a few times lately. My town is practically a giant antnest, for example. I'd eat those ants and learn to properly hunt them and learn to like them. :)

People will adapt to the conditions they face and strive to survive. The strong and the clever will survive and certainly a more stronger and more intelligent form of humans will emerge from our ruins in the next 5 or 10 generations.

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Unread postby eastbay » Thu 24 Feb 2005, 15:51:51

..... more stronger... lol EB
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Unread postby smallpoxgirl » Thu 24 Feb 2005, 19:12:10

Was watching a TV show a couple of years ago (back when I had a TV). They were following this woman and her kids in Cambodia I think. Her dinner consisted of rice flavored w/ red ants. Seemed like a pretty tasty idea to me.

Seriously though, if that's the worst this gets is having to eat bugs, that's no big deal. My sense of the crash is that it will be much much worse than that. I would predict that people will be eating people before it's over. Still better than life in McDisney-merica though.
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Unread postby Schneider » Thu 24 Feb 2005, 20:05:02

Eh..insects are a good damn source of protein ! If i remember well,grasshoppers have almost the same ratio of protein by weight than beef :shock: ..

And you can easilly grow a hell lot of grasshopper with MUCH LESS food than cows 8O ! And much less fat inside :oops: ..

Didn't tried it yet (will do this summer),but here a small recipe of fried grasshopper !

ENJOY :lol:

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Unread postby Schneider » Thu 24 Feb 2005, 20:17:14

Forgot to say : if TSHTF happen..one good way to survive could very well be eating unusual food !

Where most people will not see any food ,like a border of road with a sandy wet ground ,dandelions and grasshopper all around..You will see a land of plenty :evil: !

Another way is to grow plants crops who does't seem to be usual food,most people will not invade you if they don't see what they are used to eat on you land 8) ...

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Unread postby Terran » Thu 24 Feb 2005, 20:42:58

Don't forget worms, you have to clean and cook them first. In some countries worms are even considered a delicacy.

When the conditions are right, you have to eat what you have to eat to survive. I'm guessing this is the due process of natural selection. We have such a cultural taboo on consumption of insects, much like how those tribes who colonized Greenland, had a cultural taboo on eatting fish, which would reduce the ecological impact.
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Unread postby Schneider » Thu 24 Feb 2005, 20:50:55

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Terran', 'D')on't forget worms, you have to clean and cook them first. In some countries worms are even considered a delicacy.

When the conditions are right, you have to eat what you have to eat to survive. I'm guessing this is the due process of natural selection. We have such a cultural taboo on consumption of insects, much like how those tribes who colonized Greenland, had a cultural taboo on eatting fish, which would reduce the ecological impact.


True :) !

And if don't like worms..if you raise fish and/or poultry,they will both eat it happilly :lol: ! And you can build a very good soil with them ..

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Unread postby TrueKaiser » Thu 24 Feb 2005, 21:29:17

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('smallpoxgirl', 'T')here is an enzyme called trehalase that is made by every human intestine. It's only job is to digest trehalose. Trehalose is a sugar that is found in only two places...mushrooms and insect blood. At some point in our history, we ate an awful lot of one or the other. I'd bet mostly insects.


well we are omnivores.
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