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Re: Satellite harassment

Postby Ludi » Thu 08 May 2008, 16:39:22

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ferretlover', '
')Part of the game is to figure out what they are doing, what they could be doing, what they don't do and what they can't yet do, but are getting there.


What would you do if you thought someone was following you? Wouldn't you want to know who it is? If you thought you had a nasal implant, wouldn't you want to get a scan to see if anything was there? Or would you be too afraid to go to a doctor?
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Re: Satellite harassment

Postby Ferretlover » Thu 08 May 2008, 18:03:44

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ferretlover', '
')Part of the game is to figure out what they are doing, what they could be doing, what they don't do and what they can't yet do, but are getting there.

What would you do if you thought someone was following you? Wouldn't you want to know who it is? If you thought you had a nasal implant, wouldn't you want to get a scan to see if anything was there? Or would you be too afraid to go to a doctor?


I'd wave, ask if they'd like me to pose, invite them in for coffee and see what they want. Who knows?
I am not aware of any personal missing time, and I am not big on visiting doctors if I can avoid it, so, at the present time, I think I am "safe" from nose thingys and RFIDs.
But, if you are asking, in a round-about-way, if I think the general population is under surveillance, I would have to say yes. Maybe for good reasons, just as likely for bad reasons. (I Do wonder about that green-Dodge?-van that parks across the street from my house every couple of weeks-nobody ever gets in or out-probably just kids smoking herb!)
But, IMHO, government is NOT the big benevolent organization that nearly everyone seems to think it is. Government is not in place to help, assist, coddle the general population. It only does as little as it has to when forced by the public (you'll notice that bad weather doesn't faze them much).
The biggest fear, the thing that terrorizes the government the most is that the citizenry may be behaving as the government is--IOW, the shadier the government, the more controls they try to put into place.
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Re: Satellite harassment

Postby BigTex » Thu 08 May 2008, 18:04:14

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('GASMON', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Gandalf_the_White', 'D')o any of you realize that in Britain, you are on camera all the time? Any public place you go to, you are under surveillence. What do they need to do that for? It really does not matter


The town I live in, Wigan, UK, has quit a lot of council / police "operated" CCTV cameras looking down every street in the town centre. Been there for 5 years - people have got used to them (learned to cause trouble off view!!) - We've ALL been asking What do they need to do that for? - well, we've just found out.

A new law has JUST been passed to allow councils to issue parking ticket notices, based on CCTV footage. Stop, even to drop off on a double yellow line & BAM - a £60 ($120) ticket in the post.

There also going to use it to enforce "congestion charging" - using town roads at peak hours - another nice tax coming soon.

Oh, BTW, a national system of vehicle numberplate reading cameras is about to be installed Nationwide - They'l know every move, be able to speed fine you automatically based on time passing 2 cameras, etc, etc.

Happy motoring !!!!!!!!!!!!

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And I assume they are going to be donating all the fines they collect to traffic safety programs, right?

Because this about law enforcement and not revenue generation, right?
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Re: Satellite harassment

Postby BigTex » Thu 08 May 2008, 18:08:49

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ferretlover', 'B')ut, if you are asking, in a round-about-way, if I think the general population is under surveillance, I would have to say yes. Maybe for good reasons, just as likely for bad reasons. (I Do wonder about that green-Dodge?-van that parks across the street from my house every couple of weeks-nobody ever gets in or out-probably just kids smoking herb!)
But, IMHO, government is NOT the big benevolent organization that nearly everyone seems to think it is. Government is not in place to help, assist, coddle the general population. It only does as little as it has to when forced by the public (you'll notice that bad weather doesn't faze them much).
The biggest fear, the thing that terrorizes the government the most is that the citizenry may be behaving as the government is--IOW, the shadier the government, the more controls they try to put into place.


Every government that has ever existed has existed for one purpose only and that is to expand the scope of its power over its citizenry. The one and only tool government has to implement this purpose is coercion. No government action can ever be anything other than coercive, since it has no other incentive to offer for participation in its activities.

This simple truth somehow eludes most people.
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Re: Satellite harassment

Postby Ludi » Thu 08 May 2008, 18:10:21

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ferretlover', '
')But, if you are asking, in a round-about-way, if I think the general population is under surveillance, I would have to say yes. Maybe for good reasons, just as likely for bad reasons. (I Do wonder about that green-Dodge?-van that parks across the street from my house every couple of weeks-nobody ever gets in or out-probably just kids smoking herb!)
But, IMHO, government is NOT the big benevolent organization that nearly everyone seems to think it is.


No, I'm not asking in a round-about way if you think the general population is under surveillance, I'm asking what you would do if you thought you were under surveillance. :)

I don't agree "nearly everyone" thinks the government is a benevolent organization. I get the impression most people think the government is a huge pain in the ass, incompetent at best, malevolent at worst.

Do you think eric has reasonable arguments to support his position? Do you think Gandalf has reasonable arguments to support his position?

Just curious.
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Re: Satellite harassment

Postby Ferretlover » Thu 08 May 2008, 18:24:54

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', 'N')o, I'm not asking in a round-about way if you think the general population is under surveillance, I'm asking what you would do if you thought you were under surveillance. :)

Were I younger and no family, and knew what I know now, I would go paperless and stay off the grid for the rest of my life. Alas, now I am just a middle-aged lady who plays the game when I have to, all the time watching out of the corner of my eye when TPTB try to slip an extra ace into their hand.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', 'I') don't agree "nearly everyone" thinks the government is a benevolent organization. I get the impression most people think the government is a huge pain in the ass, incompetent at best, malevolent at worst.

It is a PITA. But, I would have to disagree-the first time some little thing goes wrong, it's "Why doesn't the government DO something!?" I have grown into a "as long as they leave me alone, I'll leave them alone" kind of person.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', 'D')o you think eric has reasonable arguments to support his position? Do you think Gandalf has reasonable arguments to support his position?Just curious.

I haven't decided one way or another yet. It certainly would be a flat-out NO if I truly believed that what they are saying could not possibly be true/happening. Unfortunately, I think I have enough life experience, have read enough, have seen enough, that what they suggest could be fairly reasonable. What do they call it in law? Ah, yes. Reasonable doubt.
At the present, I think that it is possible, but I also think that they may be misinterpeting one or more things. Or, giving certain factors more weight than they deserve.
They are not any loonier than you or I, Ludi! *giggle*
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Re: Satellite harassment

Postby Ludi » Thu 08 May 2008, 18:27:50

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ferretlover', 'T')hey are not any loonier than you or I, Ludi! *giggle*

But at least we admit we're loons! :)
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Re: Satellite harassment

Postby BigTex » Thu 08 May 2008, 18:38:33

Gandalf, I'm just going to comment on a few of your ideas:
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Gandalf_the_White', 'Y')ou people don't really know anything about the Stasi do you? You know, the East German Police who once employed up to 10% of the East German population just to spy on others?

Isn't that part of what made the society collapse, though--too many non-productive activities of this type? Isn't the moral that a society like that is not sustainable?
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'L')isten, psyops is not a game. It is a purposeful military attack, often upon a civilian population. The whole purpose is to play with your head until you are not certain what is true anymore. The CIA knows how to mess with your mind.

I agree that this can happen to certain targeted individuals, but I don't believe that so much attention could be lavished on more than a handful of people. The question, too, is "why"? Whose budget does this lavish surveillance come out of?
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'S')ome of you in this thread are new to Peak Oil, but we have seen it all come through here. From malicious teens who have nothing better to do then place strobe videos on epilepsy sites, to people who demonstrated every motive to evidence they were purposely hanging around and planting dis- and misinformation about peak oil.

Virtual vandals and government psy-ops are different matters.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'D')o any of you realize that in Britain, you are on camera all the time? Any public place you go to, you are under surveillence. What do they need to do that for? It really does not matter. What matters is whether citizens in a democracy should submit themselves to such things. It is a matter of right and no government has the right to surveillence law abiding citizens. First of all it is a waste of tax payer dollars.

Government has a right to do anything its citizens will put up with.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I') am not joking about the things I have experienced. I do believe that some of the people who post here (probably many we do not suspect) are either citizens keeping watch on the peak oil loonies or actual government agents being paid to do so. If they watchd the greens in the 60's over agent orange protests, you better believe they take peak oil seriously, even if they think the issue is bunk (which they don't BTW.)
But weren't a lot fo the 60s crowd you are referring to making public statements about overthrowing the government?

Following the Church Committee hearings in the 1970s, I think a lot of the stuff you are describing dried up.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')s for the American Stasi, well I gave you guys links above, apparently none of you looked into them. You should not doubt that the government does psyops on it's own citizens. It might be as apparently vindictive as stealing Daniel Ellsburg's mental history records to get information to discredit him, or it could go into the level of trying to use the media to keep a lid on peak oil. Controlling the masses has been the aim of alot of things (mass consumerism itself is a type of happiness machine designed to placate the masses so that an enlightened few can make the 'right' decisions.)
How does covering up peak oil help the government? If they're trying to cover it up, why would Bush say things like we're "addicted to oil" and other things acknowldedging energy issues? Shouldn't he be saying "we've got enough oil for at least 10,000 years, and maybe as many as 20,000 years"?
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')his stuff all sounds ridiculous until you start reading some of the books that are out there about the CIA. They are able to do what they do because people never take it seriously enough.
I thought the CIA was prevented by law from conducting domestic operations of any type. I thought the FBI was responsible for any domestic law enforcement or espionage matters.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'H')owever I can't deny that I think there will come a time when TPTB will try to silence the peak oil message. If it ever comes ot the point where peak oil seems likely to causes civil unrest you will see alot of interest in it and you by the government.
Isn't trying to silence a fact kind of like price controls--they don't work sort of by definition? How would the government silence the peak oil message? Would they tap some hidden supply of oil?
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'P')syops has weaknesses and limitations. It can't get you if you are marginalized within the culture, if you are a free thinker, if you have the ability to see things outside the box.
But if you listen to people on the street corners, these are precisely the people who are being targeted.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'L')ook at the 20 million Oprah-ites who are now walking right into a New Age Religious perspective on life that has slowly been cultivated in them. They faithfully make any book she recommends a best seller, not matter the content.
Oprah recommended Cormac McCarthy's "The Road", which is one of the finest pieces of doomer fiction ever written.
I think Oprah is way overrated (where's her happy family and good relationships?), but I see her as mostly harmless fun.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')'m surprised so many of you question the status quo at all, since you seem to have so little ability to face an altered reality, it must all be a sick game for you. I'm laughing to myself as I write this. You talk all big and theorize on this board and others, but what are you going to do if any of the things we talk about come to pass?
How do you know whether other people have the ability to face an altered reality? Because we are questioning the nose-mounted satellite transmitter for which there is no evidence whatsoever?
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'M')ost of you will start working for the first person who shoves their hand toward you with some money in it. And some of you already are working for TPTB. You integrity is impressive.
What's wrong with working for money? What do you work for?
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'O')h, and just to add another element, the Presidential race is another reason why some people are getting psyop'ed. Rove was using data mining and some psyop techniques years ago
In his political consulting business? Can you elaborate?
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'C')linton is probably using some now. There are no scruples that restrain them if they think they can win.
Is she using the U.S. Senate psy-ops command? Who is helping her with this? Who is paying for it? Her campaign is already running a little low on cash. I would think they would re-direct some of that psy-op money to traditional campaign spending.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')ell me that there is really a difference in intent between destroying the career of someone who opposes you and murdering them? Those who can destroy a lifetime's work with a smile on their face and a friendly handshake are Lucifer's prodigies.
The media does it all the time, but I don't see that the media does it to enhance their power, so much as for its entertainment value when they put it on tv.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'O')h, America, America, you who reject the prophets and stone those who are sent to you. If even now you understood what was necessary for peace. It is hidden from your eyes.
Wait, the President is a born-again Christian who talks about his faith all the time. He was elected twice. Who is throwing stones and rejecting the prophets? We are in two wars right now as an extension of our President's faith and conception of evil. I suspect if we had a less stridently Christian President that we would actually have more peace right now.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'E')njoy that extra fifty bucks on your SSI check! I hope it is worth your friendly participation in voiding the Constitution! You know who you are.
You are referring to a program where you get a larger Social Security retirement benefit if you spy on your fellow citizens?
Got a source for that?
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Re: Satellite harassment

Postby eric_b » Tue 01 Jul 2008, 22:56:37

I've updated my page. Quality foil: link
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Re: Satellite harassment

Postby threadbear » Wed 02 Jul 2008, 20:23:39

Thanks ERic, It's a very interesting topic and nobody should be ridiculed for investigating it.
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Re: Satellite harassment

Postby eric_b » Sun 06 Jul 2008, 17:03:19

I've updated my page again. I've come to the conclusion the entire phenomenon is completely legal. 'The Powers That Be' are not going to advertise this because if people knew what's up they'd be in the streets. It amounts to a form of covert population control, and it's very effective.
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covert population control

Many people will wonder how what I'm about to outline could possibly be kept secret. How could anything so widespread and systemic not be known about? I would argue this phenomenon keeps itself secret. It's so outrageous - so tinfoil, that most reasonable people will not be able to believe it, simply because they trust the government and don't realize how corrupt things have become.

What's really disheartening about all this is it's technically completely legal. Of course this is something 'The Powers That Be' are never going to advertise, but the bottom line is it's legal!

There now apparently exists a 'non-lethal' remote control infrastructure in the US - and likely many other countries at this point. People have heard about tracking implants - tiny devices that can be affixed or injected into people, allowing them to be tracked anywhere. People need to realiz that tracking is a given with an RF device. The implants I'm about to expose have legions of uses. And they are likely satellite powered and controlled. Keep in mind this is conjecture on my part, however there is precedent. The other option would be the microwave cell phone network, now ubiquitous in Western countries, is being used. Likely it's both a ground and satellite based infrastructure, one that's very hard to
escape from.

In early 2002 China made a big stink after discovering many sophisticated bugs on a Boeing 767 purchased from the US. (1) The jet was to be used by the Chinese Premiere:
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Chinese inspectors discovered that a new Boeing jet that was meant to be Jiang Zemin's private plane was filled with sophisticated satellite-operated listening devices, which apparently were put there when the plane was being outfitted in San Antonio, Texas.
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By all accounts these were sophisticated devices. The Powers that Be in America were confident enough China would not detect these devices on their presidents' private jet! Apparently the bugs were dormant unless satellite activated, and by some accounts they were woven into the fabrics and upolsteries in the jet -thread like.

I realize now China was attempting to give a 'heads up' to other people in the know about the full extent of 'what's up'. And since this time China has also developed a keen interest in technologies to destroy and disable satellites. Unfortunately few people in America put 2+2 together to realize how pervasive the satellite infrastructure has become. In fact, there's now an 'Air Force Space Command' in place to guard America's precious satellite fleet (3)

Why, some of those 'communications satellites' are used for much more intimate uses than anyone realizes! Those very same listening devices that China found also have another use, coveted by the state. They are now being used influence, control, manipulate and kill anyone unfortunate enough to be afflicted with them. It amounts to a way of manipulating and destroying people without them being aware of what's going on, and it allows the state to do this with impunity and zero accountability. Moreover, for the people afflicted, assuming they even understand what's happening, there's simply no way to escape this satellite harassment short of living in a metal box (faraday cage) or a cave.

How? A minor procedure has the unfortunate victim implanted with what amounts to two-way satellite operated radio (cell phone) in their sinuses. This should not be hard for most people to fathom, now that we're in the age of GPS receivers, satellite phones and radio. A very quick and minor procedure has two of these tiny satellite powered devices dumped into ones Maxillary sinuses.
Once in there they never come out, short of surgery. These things can be made very small now, this this link (4). Think grain of rice sized.

The Maxillary sinus is the largest sinus. It's a small cavity with about the volume of a tablespoon. It's attached to the main sinus cavity via a small opening (Ostia) which is about the size of a pinhead (2-7 mm). See the pictures I attached to get a better idea. A quick and minor procedure, taking only minutes, while the victim is unconscious, gets the job done. Using a specialized tool, similar to an ENT scope, the implant literally goes up ones nose and is threaded and dumped into the Maxillary sinus. Both of them actually. Each maxillary sinus is conveniently located next to each eardrum. The tiny implant comes to rest on the bottom the sinus, just above the roots of ones upper teeth. There it will remain for life - right next to the eardrum.

I want to emphasize just how nasty this is. These things are essentially dumped into ones Maxillary sinuses. You're not going to be able to get these things out just by picking your nose. It's a one way ticket - they will never come out short of surgery. Once ensconced in the Sinus these satellite powered devices will inflict a lifetime of suffering. Those afflicted are just a phone call away.

The device is likely satellite powered - it never needs batteries. Its
operation is similar in some ways to a crystal radio, in that it derives
its power inductively from the satellite. Another possibility is the
implants are powered by a tiny nuclear battery, which lasts
decades. These things exist now. Just enough energy to transmit a
weak signal picked up overhead by satellite. These implants are
very small, possibly made primarily with conductive plastics, and do
not show up on a normal x-ray. They're tiny enough to squeeze
through the narrow passageway to the Maxillary sinus. They weigh
next to nothing. It's likely the entire 'UFO abduction' phenomenon
was a front for early experiments with these implants, judging from
all the accounts of people having things shoved up their nose.

Understand the implant 'procedure' is the only time these people will ever touch you, and it is likely the riskiest part of the entire process for them. Once you've been implanted you're never going to know who did it or why, assuming you even understand what's happened to you.

Most people that get these things will NEVER realize what's happened. Once you have what amounts to cell phone jammed up your nose you can be 'played' (as the people doing this call it) an infinite number of ways. A queer culture has developed among the people responsible for this. They take tremendous delight in confusing and tormenting their victims. There are so many ways to destroy someone afflicted with these bugs I can't possibly enumerate them all here. My guess is most people that get these things end up being heavily influenced without ever being aware of it.

Since there are two implants, in some ways they amount to having a pair of embedded headphones. You can be made to hear sounds coming from every direction and the perpetrators can hear sounds as you do (though not as well), including the direction they're coming from. In this way a valuable and trusted sense -ones hearing - is corrupted. Once their hearing has been hacked, the victim will not -- nay, cannot, separate the internal sounds generated by the implants from external ones. Which is the entire idea. Again, the maxillary sinus is right next to the eardrum, and it's behind the check bone, so other people will never hear anything.

Every intimate and private detail of the victims life will soon be known, and used against them.
Even more twisted, hypnosis and conditioning are often applied around the clock. At night, while asleep, scripts can be played. Various distortions can be applied to the sound, making it sound like tinnitus or a background noise. It's easy to determine when someone is asleep simply by listening to their breathing. Of course, not all people are equally suggestible nor hypnotisable, but if one can be co-opted in their own destruction all the better.

An example of this is 'mind control'. Many people afflicted with these devices feel they are having their minds read, when in fact they are simply telling the 'controllers' everything they want to know. The implants are more sensitive to internal sounds than external ones. Months to years of conditioning get the unfortunate victim constantly talking under their breath - but so quietly they cannot hear it! Again, the implants are more sensitive to internal sounds than ones ears. Since they're not aware they've been implanted they cannot understand how anyone could possibly hear them - if they are even aware they're talking under their breath. As mentioned above, various clever distortions can be applied to the communications sent to the implantee to make it sound like a background noise or ringing in ones ears. In this way a covert communication 'channel' can be established with the victim not even being aware of it! REM sleep is a form of hynosis, and people are very vulnerable to suggestion. My feeling is most people are 'hijacked' initially while sleeping after they've been implanted.

Below I'll outline just a few a the ways these bugs can be used to wreck a person. It's very easy to drive someone postal. Understand some people with these impants are not destroyed - they are likely influenced in various ways without ever being aware of it.

Sleep deprivation. Strange noises suddenly start waking you up throughout the night. The victim can never determine where they're coming from. Perhaps it's made to appear the neighbors are responsible (provocation). In this way many decent hard working people have been destroyed. The doctor is unable to determine what's wrong. Unable to stay employed the victim ends up indigent.

Provocation. Suddenly the victim starts hearing all sorts of insults, seeming to come from people around him in public. Perhaps people they know suddenly start backstabbing them. For example, after parting ways with a friend or ending a conversation with a coworker they hear that person insult them, seemingly to their back. Victims in close relationships are especially vulnerable to being played this way. Many people suicide or go berserk. I've often wondered how many people that have gone 'postal' have these things. Quite a few victims wind up in prison after attacking the person they assume is responsible.

Insanity. If the perpetrators want to openly talk to someone it's easy to make them appear insane. This isn't done as often as you might imagine. There's not enough sport to it. If you go to the doctor and tell them you're hearing voices you'll likely be considered schizophrenic, and end up on brain melting drugs or in the loony bin. At this point this entire process can be automated using computer controlled scripts.

There are legions of other uses for these implants. Once implanted it's possible to carry on a covert conversation while surrounded by other people. In this way teams of people consciously using these things have tricked, robbed and confused countless people

The above are just a few of so many possibilities. Fundamentally it's a very simple concept that can be disguised as many things.
The reason the state uses this, among over things, is it's a covert way of dealing with people that can never be traced. Assume the worse case - someone who has been implanted figures out exactly what's happened. Even then, what can they do? The best they could possibly do would be to find a surgeon to get the implants out. Even then and assuming they had the money, and they got the implants out, they are not traceable to anyone. The press would likely consider it just another 'alien' implant. It's literally a secret most people take to their grave. Essentially the entire idea is it's extraordinarily difficult to prove any of this, and it's impossible to get help removing the implants out without appearing crazy. Of course the idea is one is not supposed to know they've been implanted - but even for the few people that figure out what's up there's no escape. It's impossible for any implanted people to effectively organize without being thwarted.

thousand points of light

Trying to detect or trace the signal is impossible for nearly all people. The signal is likely somewhere in microwave part of the spectrum, near the upper end of the atmosphere's radio window. The frequencies used are likely reserved for military use so the traffic will not be noticed. Even with the expensive equipment and expertise needed to do this one would quickly realize the signal is literally coming from above, and the transmitter (satellite) is out of reach. And, most frustratingly, the implants, while so close, are also
out of reach. Furthermore, this satellite based scheme is very likely using a spotlight approach. Each person on call is actually being bathed in a weak beam of invisible radiation. This means anyone looking for the signal would only be able to detect it close to the person spotlighted. There are now many technologies (masers, phased arrays, diffractive optical elements) that make it possible for a single satellite to project and aim many beams simultaneously at different targets. The weak return signal from a persons implant does not travel far - only the component going close to straight up is picked up, likely by a different satellite than the one powering the implant.

Most people never know they've been implanted, but many people realize they're being influenced, they just can't figure out how. It's a vexing and bewildering experience. Many of the victims become convinced they are the victims of 'mind control', 'directed energy weapons' or 'gang stalking' and in a sense they are correct. (5) (6) (Of course there are many people that are legitimate victims of Other black government programs, such as the entire undeniable MKULTRA affair and others that will never be known about. I don't mean to belittle them.)

This entire phenomenon has been going on for at least 20 years now. At least there are some credible descriptions of it. (7) People need to understand that using satellites is the logical, obvious and ideal way to implement something like this. Same for any RFID tracking scheme - it's all done from above.

I hope to raise peoples awareness of the sorts of shenanigans that are now possible with these technologies. This above is only one of many possibilities. The military apparently has many such micro bugs, developed and under development. All of this raises the question of how some accountability can be brought to bear on this.

The entire affair is extremely nasty and evil. I don't use the word evil lightly. It's something that needs to be exposed. Fortunately there's lots of evidence out there, and up peoples noses, to be found. It's close to, but not quite, a perfect crime. These implants have been used to 'play' and destroy 1000's, perhaps millions of people. The entire idea is it's hidden so people do not they've been targeted. In many ways it is a silent holocaust. Apparently the US is now under a soft dictatorship, and this is it's preferred form of population control.

The question is who is using and profiting from these implants and control structures?
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Re: Satellite harassment

Postby metalflake » Sun 06 Jul 2008, 21:31:56

Just get an MRI scan of the sinuses, it will DEFINITELY show if anything that remotely can accept microwave or radiation is up there.

you cannot make something too small for an MRI to see.

plastic will readily show up.
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Re: Satellite harassment

Postby eric_b » Sun 06 Jul 2008, 23:04:26

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('metalflake', 'J')ust get an MRI scan of the sinuses, it will DEFINITELY show if anything that remotely can accept microwave or radiation is up there.
you cannot make something too small for an MRI to see.
plastic will readily show up.

Glad to hear it, unfortunately I don't have the $$$ to pay for an MRI.
Are you certain something the size of a grain of rice would show, especially if it's resting along the bottom of the sinus, along the top of the upper tooth roots? Then there's the problem and expense of getting them out. I doubt insurance will cover it :)

Point is, most of the people that have these implants are never aware of it, and no common medical exam/procedure will catch them.
Yes I'm saying this is a big conspiracy. It's easy to stay one step ahead of anyone that's been leashed. I often wonder how many politicians have these things and are influenced without being aware of it.

Fortunately, if I'm correct, there's a lot of evidence out there. I hope this eventually comes to light.
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Re: Satellite harassment

Postby Quagmire » Sun 06 Jul 2008, 23:37:49

I don't know whether the nasal implant thing is a reality or not, but why bother when the government can listen to not only your cell phone conversations, but any other conversations or sounds in the surrounding area even if the cell phone is turned 'off'.
And most cell phones now have global positioning (gps) so they can also tell where you are at all times if your cell phone is with you.
This is not a theory. It is a fact.
Of course they don't listen to every conversation, but computers listen for certain 'key' words, which in turn trigger the recording devices.
If one desires a truly private conversation, all batteries from all cell phones in the area must be removed. It also helps to have lots of ambient noise like expressway traffic, or rushing water in the background.

Vulnerability to Being Used as a Microphone: $this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', ' ') A cellular telephone can be turned into a microphone and transmitter for the purpose of listening to conversations in the vicinity of the phone. This is done by transmitting to the cell phone a maintenance command on the control channel. This command places the cellular telephone in the "diagnostic mode." When this is done, conversations in the immediate area of the telephone can be monitored over the voice channel. 4

The user doesn't know the telephone is in the diagnostic mode and transmitting all nearby sounds until he or she tries to place a call. Then, before the cellular telephone can be used to place calls, the unit has to be cycled off and then back on again. This threat is the reason why cellular telephones are often prohibited in areas where classified or sensitive discussions are held.
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Re: Satellite harassment

Postby ANewHuman » Mon 07 Jul 2008, 01:54:04

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Quagmire', 'A')nd most cell phones now have global positioning (gps) so they can also tell where you are at all times if your cell phone is with you.

Do you even know how GPS works moron? You send NOTHING to a GPS satellite, you simply intercept THEIR signals to triangulate your position. Or do you think the puny antenaes on phones are powerful to send shit to outer space? You know how laughable that sounds?

They could already determine your position from the triangulation from cell phone towers, why do you think they build those things for massive overlap? Triangulation. At any one point in a city you are probably within LOS to 5 cell phone towers, if not more.
I hate it when morons like you get on your box thinking you know something when you don't.
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Re: Satellite harassment

Postby threadbear » Mon 07 Jul 2008, 02:03:39

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ANewHuman', ' ')I hate it when morons like you get on your box thinking you know something when you don't.

I hate it when lightweights like you, get on your box, thinking you have the moxie, the gravitas to slight fellow posters with your obnoxious insults.
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Re: Satellite harassment

Postby Zeeea » Mon 07 Jul 2008, 02:21:08

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('GASMON', 'G')eorge Bush has one of these in his rectum. It is used to deliver speeches.
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Re: Satellite harassment

Postby Cog » Mon 07 Jul 2008, 05:44:40

I've been around the conspiracy and survival sites for a bit over a year now. Eric and Gandalf's tin-foil is some of the best quality tin foil, I've ever read. Once I realized that they were serious, I laughed until my stomach hurt. You guys would be an instant hit on the college comedy circuit.
Would it violate the C of C if I admit that I am the government agent sent here to spy on them and the rest of you as a whole?

By the way Eric, those noises you make when you are going to the bathroom really have the boys at the NSA rolling in their chairs. Its obvious we still have some tweaking to do with your implant.
And don't think we have forgotten about the rest of you PO'ers here. So many people to implant, so little time.
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Re: Satellite harassment

Postby Quinny » Mon 07 Jul 2008, 05:49:04

Was this posted to deliberately discrdit the forum. As in 'Oh yeah the Peak Oil forum - thats where they believe people are having satelite powered control devices shoved up their nostrils!'
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