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Re: Satellite harassment

Unread postby Quagmire » Mon 07 Jul 2008, 06:59:35

ANudeHuman-
The gps capability I mentioned was just an aside, a totally different technology from the 'cell phone as microphone' issue. It was not the point of my post, which you seemed to have missed.
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Re: Satellite harassment

Unread postby ANewHuman » Mon 07 Jul 2008, 07:59:23

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Quagmire', 'A')NudeHuman-The gps capability I mentioned was just an aside, a totally different technology from the 'cell phone as microphone' issue. It was not the point of my post, which you seemed to have missed. Read again, check the links.
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No, you were wrong on one of your ramblings. If you can be wrong on one of the things you say in a post, it's a good indication you haven't really done much research at all and are just regurgitating some shit you heard somewhere.

Some of what you posted is correct, the point is, you probably don't know what. I'm sick of humans who constantly make such errors and spread disinformation. There is only one truth, there is no grey.
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Re: Satellite harassment

Unread postby treefrog » Mon 07 Jul 2008, 08:58:55

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Quagmire', 'I') don't know whether the nasal implant thing is a reality or not, but why bother when the government can listen to not only your cell phone conversations, but any other conversations or sounds in the surrounding area even if the cell phone is turned 'off'. And most cell phones now have global positioning (gps) so they can also tell where you are at all times if your cell phone is with you. This is not a theory. It is a fact.
Of course they don't listen to every conversation, but computers listen for certain 'key' words, which in turn trigger the recording devices. If one desires a truly private conversation, all batteries from all cell phones in the area must be removed. It also helps to have lots of ambient noise like expressway traffic, or rushing water in the background.

Vulnerability to Being Used as a Microphone: $this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', ' ') A cellular telephone can be turned into a microphone and transmitter for the purpose of listening to conversations in the vicinity of the phone. This is done by transmitting to the cell phone a maintenance command on the control channel. This command places the cellular telephone in the "diagnostic mode." When this is done, conversations in the immediate area of the telephone can be monitored over the voice channel. 4

The user doesn't know the telephone is in the diagnostic mode and transmitting all nearby sounds until he or she tries to place a call. Then, before the cellular telephone can be used to place calls, the unit has to be cycled off and then back on again. This threat is the reason why cellular telephones are often prohibited in areas where classified or sensitive discussions are held.
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Dude Quag:
You have so awesomely hit the nail on the head so hard there!
The cell phone is the ball and chain of this century.
In order for a cell phone to work it now has to send a position bit and a time bit and these are tiny, millions of them take only megabytes one billion seconds equals 33 years, if you had a cell phone on for 33 years, and they stored your exact location and position every second it would take like 5 gigs which is the size of one movie. in reality the pulse goes out every minute or so.

all your time/positions are saved and they are so easily connected that a computer can ask:

Tell me who was near 3rd and elm on the 29th of february 2007 and 4th and hazel on the 29th at midnight and at the library on march 22nd at about 4 pm and it will get you a list of people who fit the criteria.

you have three points it will certainly only be you
get it?
you might as well be pictured with a camera every minute of your life and at the bottom of the picture put position and time and date.

If you bought a laptop and anonymously went to three different libraries and emailed secret letters three different libraries, all they need is the time stamp and ISP of the three emails, and ask the computer who was there at those times and only your name would come up. awesome.

I turn my cell phone off when I drive and stick it in the metal glove box.

My "friend" was driving down highway 38 5 years ago. My friends cell phone rang and it was a friend we hadn't seen for three years since he joined the military. He just called to say high and to tell my friend that he knew he was at highway 38 at such and such a milepost marker and his speed. This was just at the time when all phones went digital, he was so awed by the technology he called my friend. all he had to do was type in his name and the persons position and speed and telephone number popped up. that was five years ago. things improve.

How do you think a missile hit the right CAR in Irak with a HARM? In a dream world, a cell phone cal has the position, the spy satellit better than google and real time looks and sees who is there, and shines a laser on it and the high flying predator releases the harm.

all within a minute. in another world this is all make believe so forget it. I have always wanted to mail my cell phone somewhere or stick it on the back of a truck with duct tape, also swapping cell phones with friends or putting it in your girlfriends handbag for the day would screw it up.

They also work while you are flying now...
they know what flight you are on.

Then there is the "circle of friends" mode.
you have a digital priority lis of friends and their freinds, and these are a group. if all of these locate same place, there is a meeting. busted.
They know where the crack houses are and who are the users lookat the trail map for the person they always circle to the crack house,
also who ELSE was there at that time, ok call them up, did they witness anything?

it is so big brother it should wake you up.

You need to be bribed?
only everyone knows when and where you meet and how many friends you have and how long it takes for a tryst.

also who else is there? Oh, a trio? interesting.
who is the other person? oh ok
wfollow her trail, oh, she comes to this motel nightly? isnt that illegal?We know what she does, and who her crack supplier is etc etc. Lets drive over and talk to her. she is at 5th and elm right now.
file that.
politicians have no clue how well they are watched, and the group in CHARGE has the advantage, they have this info.

I never take my cell phone to work or when shopping.
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Re: Satellite harassment

Unread postby treefrog » Mon 07 Jul 2008, 10:33:03

In _ years everyones exact position will be known at any time within 6 inches. (Military GPS is good to 6 inches)
Public GPS is 18 feet. very easy to allow suddenly CPcompanies the code for military GPS processing. will be done the last stage.
anyway radio tags cannot be read from satellite unless you have the powered large versions, too expensive

as daddy gates said in Jan 2007 as he burst out of secret meetings for several days id DC with a BIG SMILE on his face
"EVERYTHING IS CELL PHIONES! (and they stopped making IPAQS
everything is cell phones
everything
EV ery thing

next stage, it will be "convenient" to have your phone read your radio tag so you can pay for things with your cell phone..
now the cell phone could be the link that reads your radio tag and sends it through the location system, time stamp position stamp.
your position is known. when the majority hav it then most places will only take this form of payment, just by choice.

when it is working the economy will crash and if you want to continue you will have to be digital
Once you are locatable to within six inches and your money is in their digital account, why if you arent good, your account doesnt work.
no more radio tags on ankles for prisoners, they already are prisoners. everyone has an ankle bracelet, suddenly.

Then finally they no longer have to be nice to you.
within 3 years this scenario will exist, cashless and monitored much more closely thatn 1984 ever thought possible.
put this in the archives and bring it up in 2011 and see. How do we know this?

The planned it and as big gates said
EVERYTHING IS GOING TO BE CELL PHONES.
there it is.
you will either be off the grid, or a slave.
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Re: Satellite harassment

Unread postby Ferretlover » Mon 07 Jul 2008, 11:34:45

Gentle reminder, fellow posters: It is Not necessary to hit the 'Enter' key two or three times after each sentence. The additional blank lines make the posts more difficult to read, and, it is a waste of precious bandwidth.
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Re: Satellite harassment

Unread postby Quagmire » Mon 07 Jul 2008, 15:49:09

Welcome treefrog. Nice post and good to have you on board. :)
I am fortunate to live in a cell phone 'dead' zone, so I have never had one. My friends think it's funny when i borrow theirs and have to be shown how to work it! :roll:
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Re: Satellite harassment

Unread postby eric_b » Mon 07 Jul 2008, 19:47:33

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cog', 'I')'ve been around the conspiracy and survival sites for a bit over a year now. Eric and Gandalf's tin-foil is some of the best quality tin foil, I've ever read. Once I realized that they were serious, I laughed until my stomach hurt. You guys would be an instant hit on the college comedy circuit.

It's a masterful piece of foil - thank you very much.
Did you bother to read it?

However, as I've stated already, there's lots of evidence out there. It's not easy to find, but it's there. History will be the judge of this one.
Funny, all these responses, and not one critique of my work. Sigh.
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Re: Satellite harassment

Unread postby eric_b » Mon 07 Jul 2008, 19:54:14

If you look at history there's nothing new here.

In Russia if the state deemed you a political prisoner they'd haul you off and you'd likely never be heard from again.

What I outlined is simply a means for the state to destroy people, except unlike the Russian style no one is any wiser. You wind up on the street, in prison, or in the loony bin. Assuming you don't kill yourself. In the process the person on call is made to look insane. It's brilliant, as it allows a covert dictatorship to flourish under a mask a democracy.

That's all there is to it.
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Re: Satellite harassment

Unread postby eric_b » Mon 07 Jul 2008, 21:35:30

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Re: Satellite harassment

Unread postby ANewHuman » Mon 07 Jul 2008, 21:58:34

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('eric_b', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ANewHuman', '
')Do you even know how GPS works moron? You send NOTHING to a GPS satellite, you simply intercept THEIR signals to triangulate your position. Or do you think the puny antenaes on phones are powerful to send crap to outer space? You know how laughable that sounds?



hmm, I'm envisioning a different scheme - spotlights. Most cell phones are passive, they broadcast. Here, the satellites are active, projecting a weak beam of microwave radiation (maser) towards the person on call. The beam powers the implant and sends the 'to' signal. The implants then glow in the microwave part of the spectrum, broadcasting the 'from' signal. This broadcast signal is weak, but it's easily picked up by a satellite with big ears overhead, probably different than the one doing the spotlighting. These are weak beams of energy, just enough to power the implants - think laser pointer power levels.

This satellite constellation is likely in low earth orbit. No more than 500 miles up. Thus the lag would be less than most long distance calls.


Each satellite is a turret, capable of projecting dozens to hundreds of beams simultaneously at different targets. My guess is there are many of these satellites, and there are likely many thousand simultaneous channels, or spotlights, available. The pool of implanted people and bugs is much larger than the number of channels.

If your eyes were sensitive to microwave radiation, if you could see these beams of energy, it would be an intimidating sight. From each satellite dozens or more beams projecting out at many people on call far below.

Yes I'm saying it's organized at this level. It serves so many uses for the state ("elite'), for reasons I made clear in my OP.


Oh god that was funny. You think an antennae in your head, powered by only a few milliamps can send a signal 500 miles into space?

You're just like a religious person, when science fails to explain your ramblings it's "well the uber government can break science and stuffs and they are awesomes they can do anything they want they are god".

IF you have an implant in you, they won't be able to track it with satellites UNLESS you grew a third ear that looks like a massive antennae and got a bit more of a butt storing the battery to power it. The implant you speak of cannot do this. It would break the laws of PHYSICS to do what you suggest. I guess physics is in on the conspiracy now.

You are entertaining though in a clown kinda way, so keep going....
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Re: Satellite harassment

Unread postby threadbear » Mon 07 Jul 2008, 22:08:32

And you, New Human, are even more entertaining in a pathetic kind of way. There is no need to insult, mock, ridicule other posters, who are having experiences that are not easily explained. Whatever the genesis of the problem, it IS a problem and I suggest you take your dismissive crap elsewhere.
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Re: Satellite harassment

Unread postby Zeeea » Mon 07 Jul 2008, 22:12:09

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ANewHuman', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('eric_b', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ANewHuman', '
')Do you even know how GPS works moron? You send NOTHING to a GPS satellite, you simply intercept THEIR signals to triangulate your position. Or do you think the puny antenaes on phones are powerful to send crap to outer space? You know how laughable that sounds?



hmm, I'm envisioning a different scheme - spotlights. Most cell phones are passive, they broadcast. Here, the satellites are active, projecting a weak beam of microwave radiation (maser) towards the person on call. The beam powers the implant and sends the 'to' signal. The implants then glow in the microwave part of the spectrum, broadcasting the 'from' signal. This broadcast signal is weak, but it's easily picked up by a satellite with big ears overhead, probably different than the one doing the spotlighting. These are weak beams of energy, just enough to power the implants - think laser pointer power levels.

This satellite constellation is likely in low earth orbit. No more than 500 miles up. Thus the lag would be less than most long distance calls.


Each satellite is a turret, capable of projecting dozens to hundreds of beams simultaneously at different targets. My guess is there are many of these satellites, and there are likely many thousand simultaneous channels, or spotlights, available. The pool of implanted people and bugs is much larger than the number of channels.

If your eyes were sensitive to microwave radiation, if you could see these beams of energy, it would be an intimidating sight. From each satellite dozens or more beams projecting out at many people on call far below.

Yes I'm saying it's organized at this level. It serves so many uses for the state ("elite'), for reasons I made clear in my OP.


Oh god that was funny. You think an antennae in your head, powered by only a few milliamps can send a signal 500 miles into space?

You're just like a religious person, when science fails to explain your ramblings it's "well the uber government can break science and stuffs and they are awesomes they can do anything they want they are god".

IF you have an implant in you, they won't be able to track it with satellites UNLESS you grew a third ear that looks like a massive antennae and got a bit more of a butt storing the battery to power it. The implant you speak of cannot do this. It would break the laws of PHYSICS to do what you suggest. I guess physics is in on the conspiracy now.

You are entertaining though in a clown kinda way, so keep going....


I think you are funny for thinking because "you" dont know how it works you think its impossible lmao ...like you know it all hey ...I bet you wouldnt even know "how" a refridgerator or sattellite for example "actually" worked to build it yourself ...but it does work doesnt it lol :P ...why are people so quick to dismiss things out of the ordinary ...? I dont know but it still is ...

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Re: Satellite harassment

Unread postby eric_b » Mon 07 Jul 2008, 22:20:40

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ANewHuman', '
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Oh god that was funny. You think an antennae in your head, powered by only a few milliamps can send a signal 500 miles into space?



Easily. Your eyes have no trouble detecting a few micro watts of starlight at night. The atmosphere's radio window is very clear, and there's no natural source of radiation to compete.

The concept is entirely possible to implement technically.

If you have any coherent criticism I'll rebut, otherwise bye.
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Re: Satellite harassment

Unread postby ANewHuman » Mon 07 Jul 2008, 22:25:50

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Zeeea', 'I') think you are funny for thinking because "you" dont know how it works you think its impossible lmao ...like you know it all hey ...I bet you wouldnt even know "how" a refridgerator or sattellite for example "actually" worked to build it yourself ...but it does work doesnt it lol :P ...why are people so quick to dismiss things out of the ordinary ...? I dont know but it still is ...

realities are brought forth from fiction ...someone had to think of them to make them real ...IMO this is no different ...


Ah yes the old black box reasoning. Since I didn't design the device how can I possibly KNOW what it can DO. Well that's where deduction comes into play, and things like physics.

The weakest part of his story is the satellites controlling him. It is IMPOSSIBLE for a few milliamps to send a signal to outer space with an antenae inside an object like a head. To do so would break the laws of physics. Now if you weren't an idiot you would actually understand what that means to break the laws of physics.
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Re: Satellite harassment

Unread postby ANewHuman » Mon 07 Jul 2008, 22:30:59

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('eric_b', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ANewHuman', '
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Oh god that was funny. You think an antennae in your head, powered by only a few milliamps can send a signal 500 miles into space?



Easily. Your eyes have no trouble detecting a few micro watts of starlight at night. The atmosphere's radio window is very clear, and there's no natural source of radiation to compete.

The concept is entirely possible to implement technically.

If you have any coherent criticism I'll rebut, otherwise bye.


Ah the old "well if X can occur, Y must be able to occur". Light isn't usually measured in "watts" but some other form like lumens/lux. The source of the light from a star is massive and powerful.

A better example you could give is trying to spot a 1W light globe from space. Because that is at best what the device in your head would run at, and it would be impossible to spot a 1 watt 100% efficient globe from a kilometer, let alone 500.
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Re: Satellite harassment

Unread postby eric_b » Mon 07 Jul 2008, 22:32:06

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ANewHuman', '
')The weakest part of his story is the satellites controlling him. It is IMPOSSIBLE for a few milliamps to send a signal to outer space with an antenae inside an object like a head. To do so would break the laws of physics. Now if you weren't an idiot you would actually understand what that means to break the laws of physics.


Wrong answer. Antenna size is proportional to the frequency of the radiation being detected. We're talking about 5-10 GHz radiation here - at least that's my guess. Go figure.
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Re: Satellite harassment

Unread postby eric_b » Mon 07 Jul 2008, 22:33:12

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ANewHuman', '
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Ah the old "well if X can occur, Y must be able to occur". Light isn't usually measured in "watts" but some other form like lumens/lux. The source of the light from a star is massive and powerful.

A better example you could give is trying to spot a 1W light globe from space. Because that is at best what the device in your head would run at, and it would be impossible to spot a 1 watt 100% efficient globe from a kilometer, let alone 500.


Pedantic and irrelevant.

Do you know that astronaughts in LEO can see a 5mW laser pointer that's aimed directly at them, despite having diverged to a least 100 meters?
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Re: Satellite harassment

Unread postby ANewHuman » Mon 07 Jul 2008, 22:37:10

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('eric_b', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ANewHuman', '
')The weakest part of his story is the satellites controlling him. It is IMPOSSIBLE for a few milliamps to send a signal to outer space with an antenae inside an object like a head. To do so would break the laws of physics. Now if you weren't an idiot you would actually understand what that means to break the laws of physics.


Wrong answer. Antenna size is proportional to the frequency of the radiation being detected. We're talking about 5-10 GHz radiation here - at least that's my guess. Go figure.


Why not 20 or 100Ghz radiation while we are at it? So let me get this straight, you have this low powered device in your head that can SEND and RECEIVE at 10Ghz, and uses some kind of physics black hole to move that "radiation" through a physical blockage like a head and then 500kms into space from a few milliamps.

:-D

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Re: Satellite harassment

Unread postby eric_b » Mon 07 Jul 2008, 22:45:07

<shrug> Look, of course this all conjecture on my part. I don't know the details of the scheme, except it's entirely possible. You know, the radiation used in the cell phone network (1 -2 Ghz?) has no problems
penetrating nearly all buildings. It's absolutely possible for a small amount of radiation at these frequencies to penetrate into your sinus.

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Re: Satellite harassment

Unread postby ANewHuman » Mon 07 Jul 2008, 22:51:06

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('eric_b', '&')lt;shrug> Look, of course this all conjecture on my part.


Of course it is. You glue enough bits of conspiracy and pseudo science together and you can fool most idiots, even yourself.

BTW have you been diagnozed with schizophrenia?
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