THE Hummer/SUV Thread (merged)

by **Scooter_Rider** » Mon 21 Feb 2005, 15:58:28

A few months ago we had a huge snowstorm. A few days later I went down to rent a movie at the local video store. The parking lots were still covered with packed ice and snow. I drove our '85 Toyota tercel 4x4 wagon. It gets good gas mileage. I was driving through the parking lot, and there was this new $50k+ BMW SUV that was stuck in the parking lot space in front of the video store. The snow wasn't deep or anything. My car had no probs whatsoever in that parking lot. I drove in, got the movies, and drove out again a few minutes later. And the BMW was still there spinning it's huge tires. I couldn't stop laughing when I saw the look on that rich yuppie's face. I don't think he could believe it either. Felt kinda sorry for him, too! :lol:

All of the parking spaces at the video store had pretty much the same ice and snow. My $1,200 Toyota 4wd wagon totally outperformed a $50k AWD SUV. My car is true 4wd (not AWD). That expensive BMW SUV was AWD. I have a friend who has a new honda CRV SUV that is also full-time AWD. That friend got easily stuck going mildly off-road due to a very small amount of sand. She couldn't understand why the AWD didn't work better in the dirt. My Toyota wagon has been on jeep trails and in 2 feet of snow without getting stuck. I am now under the impression that AWD SUV's are just overpriced, dangerous, and wasteful status symbols. And most are worthless in low traction conditions.

by **k_semler** » Mon 21 Feb 2005, 16:04:14

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gg3', 'k')_semler, what you fail to recognize is that the abuse of the tool has become the paradigm case for the use of the tool. ... The fact that someone "wants to" drive a single-digit behemoth through the morning smog to their office parking space, is irrelevant. Since when is "I Want" a moral commandment?

by **Coolman** » Mon 21 Feb 2005, 19:37:50

I don't blame just SUVs I blame all personal motor transportation, its a bad idea.
If it is possible, get a road bike, most efficent form of transportion on the planet. And it has about 1000 physical and mental benifits.
I ride a road bike that cost about 1000 dollars its not the top of the line but still excellent.

by **Coolman** » Mon 21 Feb 2005, 19:45:14

Actually the Mountain Bike is a good choice too because it does not require paved roads (which use a lot of oil to maintain.) The Mountain Bike is slow though. Although I have road my road bike through grass, that was fun, but probably not good for it lol.

Website · by **Zechs** » Mon 21 Feb 2005, 19:52:19

Attach a 180 degree swing arm on the side of your Scooter. Attach a Claymore to the end of that. (The Mine, not the Sword). If someone is tailgaiting you, release the swing-arm so that the claymore, which was facing towards the front, is now facing towards the offending SUV.
Lift the plastic safety housing of the arming switch. Arm and Detonate.
Questions?

by **PenultimateManStanding** » Mon 21 Feb 2005, 20:09:26

Sure I got questions, Zecha. Your answer to road rage is murder?

by **Ayoob_Reloaded** » Mon 21 Feb 2005, 20:14:39

Print up a bunch of bumperstickers and stick them on the foul beasts.
"Cops are corrupt and stupid"
"I drive drunk all the time"
Stuff like that.
You get the idea.

by **Ayoob_Reloaded** » Mon 21 Feb 2005, 20:23:34

I was going for something so incendiary that their vehicle would be vandalized immediately, or that they'd get pulled over by the police that same day. Something so totally unacceptable that they might even get fired if they drove to work like that.

by **PenultimateManStanding** » Mon 21 Feb 2005, 20:49:31

You want something incendiary? how about a Bush/Cheney bumper sticker.

by **eastbay** » Mon 21 Feb 2005, 23:28:29

Danger: 'Convicted Child Molester'
I support Osama bin Laden
I vote Communist
I vote Fascist

by **k_semler** » Tue 22 Feb 2005, 01:41:35

In San Francisco: "Purify The Earth, Kill A Queer Today!"
In Hayden Lake, ID: "I Am Gay. I Like Man Sex."
In Medical Lake, WA: "I Live In the Big Building Next To The High School."
In Uniontown, WA: "I Am A Narc."
In Elk River, ID: "Hug The Trees, Chop Down The Loggers!"

by **Specop_007** » Tue 22 Feb 2005, 02:14:58

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gg3', 'H')ow'bout you call up five or six general engineering contractors, and ask them if they would send in a Caterpillar D-9 or D-11 to do a job they could do with a D-4. They will ask you if you're crazy or just drunk. They know, because their profit margin depends on it, that you do not do overkill when you choose your tools.

by **KiddieKorral** » Tue 22 Feb 2005, 06:35:33

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'J')ust ask Kiddie.

by **Specop_007** » Tue 22 Feb 2005, 11:13:47

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('KiddieKorral', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'J')ust ask Kiddie.

by **frankthetank** » Tue 22 Feb 2005, 12:00:39

My (large) family owns enough of these SUVs(Expo,F150,Suburbans,Explorers,etc) so i will say that--sometimes--they are useful. Anytime you have to pull something or haul something they do come in very handy. I do believe they could be made a little smaller(lighter?)....commuting in one is moronic...
My brother always makes me drive b/c i get 30-35/gallon...he's lucky if he gets 14...

People are still free to drive what they want...

by **mgibbons19** » Tue 22 Feb 2005, 12:41:06

Ack you guys.
Sport utes are wonderful trucks. If we find them overused on the roadways, then we just need to up the gas tax a little.
And I'm a cyclist.
Who just sold my Trooper (bummer). I did take it mudding, and even trailriding once. That thing was a blast.
Now I need a new truck. I was thinking an early 90s Toyota pickup. factory lift, 4wd. Maybe an extended cab for the least 'uns.
Edit to add: Plus the only reason we had an SUV boom in the first place is because the hippies were so obnoxious about station wagons in the 70s. Be careful what you wish for. The new station wagons (SUVs) are bigger, heavier, and get just as bad mileage, twenty -hell thirty years later..

by **No-Oil** » Tue 22 Feb 2005, 13:40:28

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Falconoffury', 'Y')es, but they said that building fuel cells was inexpensive. I read somewhere else that it costs around 1 million dollars per car to build them.

by **Falconoffury** » Wed 23 Feb 2005, 13:08:32

What happens to the platinum? Does it get broken off and mixed with the exhaust?

by **NevadaGhosts** » Fri 04 Mar 2005, 03:17:35

Are SUV's actually safer than cars?

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'N')ational Highway Traffic Safety Administration figures show gap in safety between sport utility vehicles and passenger cars last year was widest yet recorded; find people driving or riding in sport utility vehicle in 2003 were nearly 11 percent more likely to die in accident the people in cars; says crash fatalities declined across board in 2003 to lowest levels in six years, with 42,643 people killed in traffic accidents in US; Ward's AutoInfoBank says SUV's accounted for 27.2 percent of all light-duty vehicles in first seven months of 2004, up from 26 percent in period year earlier.

by **lowem** » Fri 04 Mar 2005, 03:27:35

Obviously many SUV buyers never considered that they needed to make turns around bendy roads ...

THE Hummer/SUV Thread (merged)

Are SUV's actually safer than cars?

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