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Re: Something has changed recently

Postby vision-master » Sat 19 Apr 2008, 16:16:04

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Re: Something has changed recently

Postby Homesteader » Sat 19 Apr 2008, 16:19:42

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('evilgenius', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pablo2079', 'I')t's interesting how I used to try and convince my family and friends about PO. Now, I just find myself sitting back and listening to them bitch about the cost of fuel and how "crazy" everything is getting.

Not sure if it's apathy or what, but can you really "prepare" for this? I've done the solar thing, insulated my house, new windows all that... gonna start stashing more food.... but ..... It'll be time for a lawn chair, favorite beverage and shades... watch all this crap go down.

Wondering if I should invest in a gun or not.... lol.... but what's the point?


You will need a gun, even if not against people. Those that didn't listen will have had lots of different animals. Many of them will be dangerous later.


Once TSHTF, Blackwater will do door-to-door gun searchs.


No worries tho, it will all be "for your own good". [smilie=icon_puke_l.gif]
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Re: Something has changed recently

Postby mos6507 » Sat 19 Apr 2008, 16:28:14

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('BigTex', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jlw61', 'P')S Tex, I liked your old avatar better :-)


Thanks for the nice comments. I appreciate it.

Which avatar are you thinking about? I've got a whole closet-full of them.

Bruce Campbell is my Ralph Lauren, though.


Do you look anything like Bruce Campbell? It's hard to visualize you any other way. Preferably the Elvis version of BC.
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Re: Something has changed recently

Postby mos6507 » Sat 19 Apr 2008, 16:43:37

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('BigTex', '
')The main problem with government--ANY GOVERNMENT--is that its ultimate objective is to protect its power and expand its scope. Show me any government in history that has not sought to do this, no matter what the political leaders said they were trying to do.


Which is why the moral of Animal Farm tends to reflect the reality of political change more often than not. I find Animal Farm to be a more useful lesson than the much more often cited 1984. The reason being is that 1984 is used as a justification for political change. Animal Farm shows how overturning the old in favor of the new doesn't necessarily yield a utopia but merely a new form of oppression.

I really think complaining about the powers that be is easy. It's far harder to come up with a better ideology. So many of them sound good on paper but fall apart in practice.
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Re: Something has changed recently

Postby BigTex » Sat 19 Apr 2008, 18:39:12

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('GASMON', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mos6507', 'W')hich is why the moral of Animal Farm tends to reflect the reality of political change more often than not. I find Animal Farm to be a more useful lesson than the much more often cited 1984. The reason being is that 1984 is used as a justification for political change. Animal Farm shows how overturning the old in favor of the new doesn't necessarily yield a utopia but merely a new form of oppression.


Ahh ! The "great" George Orwell - Not very well liked in my home town, Wigan - Gets mentioned alot on peak oil, so here we go.

Orwell was an upper class twit, though born in India hailed from the south of England, (Henley on Thames - VERY upper class), public education Eton college, etc etc.

In early 1936, Victor Gollancz, of the Left Book Club, commissioned George Orwell to write an account of working class poverty in economically depressed northern England. His account, The Road to Wigan Pier was published in 1937.

Orwell's grim account of my home town bears no resemblance to the town my parents were born & grew up in. Indeed he resided in a small house opposite Wigan Gas Works, (where I did my gas engineering apprenticeship), still there untill recently, now a car park, with a memorial plaque to him. My grandparents lived about 100 yards away.

Yes, life back in the 30's Wigan was hard, it was a coal mining / steel / cotton spinning town, show me a clean such industrial town, especially if you live next to the gasworks !!. However, by all acounts, he was completely "over the top", with this book.

When reading Orwells works, make sure your tongue is firmly in your cheek. He was an upper class, affluent commie, nothing else.

Gasmon (a working class share owning capitalist)


So Orwell was sort of like the James Kunstler of his day?

Orwell was a great writer of fiction. I never read it as anything but that. Fiction with an eye toward the ugliness that humanity is capable of.

Which of his works have you read?

Have you read "Down and Out in London and Paris"?

I'm sorry to hear that yet another prophet gets no love at home.
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Re: Something has changed recently

Postby BigTex » Sat 19 Apr 2008, 18:47:56

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mos6507', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('BigTex', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jlw61', 'P')S Tex, I liked your old avatar better :-)


Thanks for the nice comments. I appreciate it.

Which avatar are you thinking about? I've got a whole closet-full of them.

Bruce Campbell is my Ralph Lauren, though.


Do you look anything like Bruce Campbell? It's hard to visualize you any other way. Preferably the Elvis version of BC.


Ha! You're one to talk, Mr. "European Science Fiction Show Man". Every one of your posts seems to be coming straight from the mouth of your av.

No, I do not resemble Bruce Campbell, in any of his many interesting roles.

I'm a nice looking fellow, but you wouldn't pick me out of a lineup if you were asked to guess which one was BigTex.
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Re: Something has changed recently

Postby jasonraymondson » Sun 20 Apr 2008, 03:37:53

I can do it, I have seen your photo.
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Re: Something has changed recently

Postby mos6507 » Sun 20 Apr 2008, 05:19:58

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('BigTex', '
')Ha! You're one to talk, Mr. "European Science Fiction Show Man". Every one of your posts seems to be coming straight from the mouth of your av.

No, I do not resemble Bruce Campbell, in any of his many interesting roles.

I'm a nice looking fellow, but you wouldn't pick me out of a lineup if you were asked to guess which one was BigTex.


I think we tend to pick avatars that have some special significance rather than it representing us personally. I like my avatar because that character on the show was a hip in a mod sort of way and represents an anachronistic vision of the future that I wish had come to pass (aside from the alien invasion).

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Re: Something has changed recently

Postby sameu » Sun 20 Apr 2008, 14:58:34

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ibon', '
')What I think has changed recently is that concrete events are leaving the arena of future risk and becoming in your face here and now reality events.

This is happening right here and now. What a wonderful evolution from the past years of only speculating on this. TO see it before our eyes unfolding holds great promise for change.


exactly

except global food riots are a bit very scary to me

guess it's like that parable of plants growing exponentially and covering up a pond
one minute the pond is only covered for 50%, the next minute you're fucked
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Re: Something has changed recently

Postby Homesteader » Sun 20 Apr 2008, 18:43:04

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('sameu', '
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guess it's like that parable of plants growing exponentially and covering up a pond
one minute the pond is only covered for 50%, the next minute you're fucked


Hahahah! That would make a great by-line.

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