[jedinvest]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('alokin', 'I') don't know, if it 's only me thinking like that, but the last two days something has changed in a way that I'm thinking we're doomed. I don't know what exactly it is, the world food crisis or $115 a barrel, the melting arctic ice, bancruptcy of airlines it's just everything how the doomers said.

Meanwhile Obama and Clinton fight each other instead of fighting for political concepts -disgusting!

How many time we have left? I guess not too much!

[keehah]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('chakra', ' ')I feel like I went through all the stages and I'm back at denial again. I've been reading this site for years now, and things seemed pretty hopeless even 3 years ago, but here we are, business as usual.

[Fiddlerdave]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('chakra', 'I') seem to be in the opposite boat. I feel like I went through all the stages and I'm back at denial again. I've been reading this site for years now, and things seemed pretty hopeless even 3 years ago, but here we are, business as usual.

You think things are falling apart and then the markets rally and everyone is smiling again for a few weeks or months. It seems no matter how many bad things are happening people make adjustments and continue on the same coarse. It seems like in the media there isn't any crisis but just small problems that just require some policy changes and everything will be fine.

The local economy where I am is better then it's been in 25 years, and the housing market here is on fire and still rising.

I'm pessimistic still, and would be a doomer in many peoples eyes, but I'm more optimistic about the future then I've been in years even with the historically high commodity prices.

[Ibon]

Is Alokin's intuitive sense part of his personal dealing with the truth of peak oil or is he/she really tuning into the collective? I am guessing it is the latter or a maybe a combination of both.

We live in very interesting times. It requires a big picture holistic insight to understand peak oil and all the ramifications. Some of us were early pioneers in getting this years ago.

What I think has changed recently is that concrete events are leaving the arena of future risk and becoming in your face here and now reality events. When this is understood by the collective as it is starting to now this becomes a very powerful point in the culture at large where the stuck inertia can move forward.

This goes hand in hand with the unfolding hardships whether it is the global food crisis, housing market collapse or rapid increase in fuel prices etc.

Volatility will increase in our society and culture at large as disruptions increase but the wonderful part of this is that the collective can begin to lower the shields of denial.

This is happening right here and now. What a wonderful evolution from the past years of only speculating on this. TO see it before our eyes unfolding holds great promise for change.

[vision-master]

Sometime I feel like a street preacher.

I'm sounding the alarm bells to whoever I meet. Look em straight in the eyes tho when talking.

[threadbear]

About 3 years ago, I mentioned to a good friend that I was concerned with the unwinding of the derivatives market. She looked at me like I had a third eye. Funny, now I'm no longer "fear based", in her mind. I had to endure years of her criticism, on that score.

In june of 2006, we had a fellow over for dinner, a top economist who has worked directly under several heads of state. He's a very cosmopolitan guy with several phd's. I brought up the potential for economic meltdown, and he totally pooh poohed the idea, like I was a complete nutter. Now he won't look me in the eyes. A little embarrassed? I think so. It's all on-line. It's no mystery and nobody has to be a genius to know/feel which way the wind's blowing.

The most educated people often just get it wrong, until it's upon them.
This is the scary part, to me. You really can't trust the judgement of almost anyone in your local sphere, until it's almost too late to make significant preps. Pretty sad.

Anyway, about original poster's point. Something has changed recently for me, and it has to do with the food riots. This seriously freaks me out. It's just so darned apocalyptic in nature. There have always been localized famines, and they have been getting worse, because of climate change. But to have wheat doubling and rice tripling in price, causing across the board difficulties getting affordable food? That just gives me the shivers.

[dorlomin]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', 'S')ometime I feel like a street preacher.

[JoeW]

alokin, it isn't just you. i have been feeling it also. things are starting to happen fast now.

if this whole thing unravels too quickly, i cannot predict the outcome for myself and my interests. this pains me greatly. although i have been peak-aware since around 1995 [the internet is a great thing], i have done very little to prepare for it. i have avoided buying an suv or a mcmansion.

but am i ready for this? not remotely. someone decided the other day they were going to plant a garden and i said, 'good idea. i'll till the soil.' as i ran the tiller yesterday, i thought to myself, 'it's not enough'.

i have mostly squandered thirteen years of preparation time. i doubt i have the time or resources to adequately prepare, if one can ever be prepared for what may come.

good luck and God bless the good people at peakoil.com.

[threadbear]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('JoeW', 'a')lokin, it isn't just you. i have been feeling it also. things are starting to happen fast now.

if this whole thing unravels too quickly, i cannot predict the outcome for myself and my interests. this pains me greatly. although i have been peak-aware since around 1995 [the internet is a great thing], i have done very little to prepare for it. i have avoided buying an suv or a mcmansion.

but am i ready for this? not remotely. someone decided the other day they were going to plant a garden and i said, 'good idea. i'll till the soil.' as i ran the tiller yesterday, i thought to myself, 'it's not enough'.

i have mostly squandered thirteen years of preparation time. i doubt i have the time or resources to adequately prepare, if one can ever be prepared for what may come.

good luck and God bless the good people at peakoil.com.

[americandream]

I've been waiting for the demise of capitalism, hoping I suppose that I might outlive it.

As a Marxist, it is self evident that a system based around the wasteful use of common resources is doomed to regress us back to a brutal age in due course due to depletion.

However, given the current corporate acculturated climate, I suspect that the slide out of civilisation will be protracted but the drop into barbarism will be swift and brutal.

[bodigami]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('steam_cannon', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Newfie', '
')7 Acceptance and Hope

[Pops]

Ya know, I'm thinking all the jokers should go off and joke on the Open forum and all those who what to analyze should continue but everyone feeling such feelings should go off to PFTF and start doing something aside from guessing when they should.

Just me though...

[threadbear]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pops', 'Y')a know, I'm thinking all the jokers should go off and joke on the Open forum and all those who what to analyze should continue but everyone feeling such feelings should go off to PFTF and start doing something aside from guessing when they should.

Just me though...

[TheDude]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('KingDavid', '.')..not the f***ing eagles man....
This is actually the dudes line, but since he's not here...

[Pops]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('threadbear', 'S')o there, you old grump! Won't have this lazy paranoid to kick around anymore.

[KingDavid]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TheDude', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('KingDavid', '.')..not the f***ing eagles man....
This is actually the dudes line, but since he's not here...

[patience]

Alokin,
I feel the change in people around me. The crazy, unfounded US optimism is gone. Even those most in denial up to now are looking worried. I agree that it is because the mainstream is "getting it", along with the constant stream of bad news. If enough people understand soon enough, it will help by starting to change behaviors. The poor here are starting to think now, instead of letting the TV ads think for them.

But, as others have said, it is too little, too late.

[alokin]

So, there are others who have the same impression. We might be right we might be wrong about the time scale, not about the fact.

Here in Australia people do not talk about politics. I try to make remarks like:expect the food prices to go up very much. But I definitively should tell them: "your husband is mechanic - send him to learn something else"

[Newfie]

Hey Pops,

I ordered about 30 fruit and nut trees for my property. Gonna go plant them next month.

That count?

The exercise should help my depression.

[threadbear]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pops', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('threadbear', 'S')o there, you old grump! Won't have this lazy paranoid to kick around anymore.