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Re: President Jesse "The Body" Ventura

Unread postby Plantagenet » Mon 31 Mar 2008, 14:17:24

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('steam_cannon', '[')In our system, fragmented voting on
minority parties improves the chances for more extreme parties.


Actually, the minority parties in the USA tend to be at the extremes, and by taking away the votes at the extremes they tend to improve the chances of those candidates who are more centrist and attract the middle-of-the road voter.
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Re: President Jesse "The Body" Ventura

Unread postby steam_cannon » Mon 31 Mar 2008, 15:06:32

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', 'A')ctually, the minority parties in the USA tend to be at the extremes
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$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', 'a')nd by taking away the votes at the extremes they tend to improve the chances of those candidates
who are more centrist...

This is where your logic breaks down.

This is a two party system and the right has a history of funding
third party candidates to shift the political spectrum right, not center
like what you are saying.

Follow the money
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')b]Why do you think that Republican groups are donating money to Nader's campaign?
Not to mention, what does it say about Nader's integrity to accept the money.
He knows he has no chance of winning.
He knows he is basically taking votes away from Kerry, because no Green Party member would vote for Bush.
He knows that the Republicans realize this so they want him to do as well as he possibly can because he is taking votes from Kerry that have no chance of going to Bush.
He knows that's why they are giving him money.
Knowing all this he still doesn't drop out of the race.

http://www.physicsforums.com/archive/in ... 47685.html

It's called strategy, yeah the Republicans use strategy! OMG!
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Re: President Jesse "The Body" Ventura

Unread postby steam_cannon » Mon 31 Mar 2008, 15:11:50

I predict Plantagenet is writing up a response right now
something to the effect...

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')ctually Nader is not running in this election.

And Jesse could beat up Nader anyday...

So if you followed politics you would know it's not the same. 8)
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Re: President Jesse "The Body" Ventura

Unread postby dinopello » Mon 31 Mar 2008, 15:16:04

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('golem', 'M')aybe we would make good running mates...
Braun and brains?


That's interesting, golem. I hadn't pictured you as the big brauny-type guy. :P
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Re: President Jesse "The Body" Ventura

Unread postby Plantagenet » Mon 31 Mar 2008, 15:20:18

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('steam_cannon', ' ')Republican groups are donating money to Nader's campaign?


Republicans didn't donate much money to Nader, but Republican lawyers did help Nader when he filed a series of lawsuits to get on the ballot after the dems tried to change the rules to make it very very difficult for third parties to get on the ballot.

Its a simple fact that Nader is a leftist, and he attracts money, support and voters primarily on the left. Its silly for you to deny this obvious fact.

Minority extremist parties tend to capture voters on the extremes in the US. The major parties in the US are more centrist because the vast majority of voters are middle-of-the-road in their views. 8)
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Re: President Jesse "The Body" Ventura

Unread postby steam_cannon » Mon 31 Mar 2008, 15:43:00

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', 'R')epublicans didn't donate much money to Nader
The much argument, brilliant. Thank you for confirming the republicans donating to Nader.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', 'R')epublican lawyers did help Nader when he filed a series of
lawsuits to get on the ballot
Yeah, out of the kindness of their hearts. Thanks again for more supporting evidence.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', '[')b]Its a simple fact that Nader is a leftist, and he attracts money,
support and voters primarily on the left. Its silly for you to deny this obvious fact.
Man, typical Plantagenet spin. He takes something that you're not denying,
and accuses you of denying it. What BS.

Here I'm saying that the Republicans have a history of donating
money and support to fragment the left, thereby shifting the
political spectrum right. Obviously fragmenting the left means
supporting left leaning candidates that lefties will waste their votes on.
So yeah, we all know Nader is a leftist. Thank you Captain Obvious!

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Re: President Jesse "The Body" Ventura

Unread postby Plantagenet » Mon 31 Mar 2008, 16:10:02

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('steam_cannon', ' ')... Nader is a leftist. Thank you


No problemo.

The democrats don't have a monopoly on virtue in these matters. Both parties have done the same kind of things in boosting 3rd parties that hurt the other side. Perot played the same spoiler role on the right in the 1992 and 1996 elections as Nader did on the left in 2000.

Just in this current election season some dems encouraged their fellow dems in Wisconsin to strategically switch to the Republican site vote for Romney to keep the Republican primary fight going longer. Rush Limbaugh has been enouraging Republicans to vote strategically for Hillary in Texas and Pennsylvania for the same nefarious reasons.

Nader seems to be a spent force, and I doubt Bloomberg or Ventura will run, so the 2008 election probably won't have a spoiler 3rd party in it, either on the extreme left or on the extreme right. :)
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Re: President Jesse "The Body" Ventura

Unread postby Newfie » Mon 31 Mar 2008, 16:47:00

As I recall the way Jessie got elected Gov was because the Dem candidate supported his running. It was a gambit to split the Republican vote only it backfired. Once Jessie got the podium he outshone the pols. on both sides.

But my recollection ain't worth much anymore.
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Re: President Jesse "The Body" Ventura

Unread postby Plantagenet » Mon 31 Mar 2008, 17:55:53

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Newfie', 'A')s I recall the way Jessie got elected Gov was because the Dem candidate supported his running. It was a gambit to split the Republican vote only it backfired. Once Jessie got the podium he outshone the pols. on both sides.

But my recollection ain't worth much anymore.


I think you got it right.

Someday we'll get a third party president too, as long as the election rules are kept fair and open enough so the two main parties can't block third party candidates from getting on the ballot.


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But I don't think it will be the "The Body." I don't think Ventura will run. Now that he's in the WWE "Hall of Fame" why should he risk tarnishing his reputation by being president?
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Re: President Jesse "The Body" Ventura

Unread postby steam_cannon » Mon 31 Mar 2008, 18:06:17

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('steam_cannon', ' ')... we all know Nader is a leftist. Thank you Captain Obvious!

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No problemo.
Blink. Well, at least you know you're Captain Obvious! :lol:
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Re: President Jesse "The Body" Ventura

Unread postby Plantagenet » Mon 31 Mar 2008, 18:08:53

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WWE Hall of Fame. (2004) Why would he risk that kind of fame and glory to be a mere president?
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Re: President Jesse "The Body" Ventura

Unread postby steam_cannon » Mon 31 Mar 2008, 18:18:30

That said...


Your comments here seems like a fairly reasonable take on things.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', 'T')he democrats don't have a monopoly on virtue in these matters.
Both parties have done the same kind of things in boosting 3rd
parties that hurt the other side. Perot played the same spoiler role
on the right in the 1992 and 1996 elections as Nader did on the left
in 2000.

Just in this current election season some dems encouraged their
fellow dems in Wisconsin to strategically switch to the Republican
site vote for Romney to keep the Republican primary fight going
longer. Rush Limbaugh has been enouraging Republicans to vote
strategically for Hillary in Texas and Pennsylvania for the same
nefarious reasons.

Nader seems to be a spent force, and I doubt Bloomberg or Ventura
will run, so the 2008 election probably won't have a spoiler 3rd
party in it, either on the extreme left or on the extreme right.
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Re: President Jesse "The Body" Ventura

Unread postby steam_cannon » Mon 31 Mar 2008, 18:30:07

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', 'W')WE Hall of Fame. (2004) Why would he risk that kind of fame and glory to be a mere president?

Sometimes I wonder if the only difference between politics and
wrestling is the outfits...

"You're going down!"

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Jesse Ventura on 911

Unread postby toast » Tue 01 Dec 2009, 03:59:12

Like so many other people, I admire Jesse Ventura. There's nothing new of substance on this youtube but alot of straight talk. I thought many of you would enjoy viewing it.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9mbotpeuJM
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Re: Jesse Ventura on 911

Unread postby oswald622 » Tue 01 Dec 2009, 04:21:38

He's going to have his own TV show on TruTV. It's called 'Conspiracy Theory' and it premiers this Wednesday at 10. I'm curious to see how frank he will be, or how 'show-biz' he might be instead.
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Re: Jesse Ventura on 911

Unread postby Armageddon » Tue 01 Dec 2009, 10:31:59

He just lays out the evidence and lets people decide for themselves. They wouldn't let him subpoena people for real answers. Are there really people out there who don't believe 911 was inside job ?
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Re: Jesse Ventura on 911

Unread postby Jotapay » Tue 01 Dec 2009, 10:35:06

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Armageddon', 'H')e just lays out the evidence and lets people decide for themselves. They wouldn't let him subpoena people for real answers. Are there really people out there who don't believe 911 was inside job ?


Pretty much EVERYBODY I know thinks the government is lying. That's unbelievable to me really since just four years ago I myself thought 9-11 Truthers were nuts.
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Re: Jesse Ventura on 911

Unread postby rangerone314 » Tue 01 Dec 2009, 10:35:23

I think Jesse Ventura should run for President with Arnold Swartzenegger as his VP (since he can't run for president--actually is VP run allowable?)
An ideology is by definition not a search for TRUTH-but a search for PROOF that its point of view is right

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Re: Jesse Ventura on 911

Unread postby Roy » Tue 01 Dec 2009, 10:40:52

See Variety magazine's review of Jesse's new show.

http://www.variety.com/review/VE1117941695.html?categoryid=32&cs=1

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'G')rowling about the government's nefarious doings, Ventura saunters around in a black leather jacket and throws a fit when he isn't allowed to inspect the top-secret facility. And while the show's press notes say the goal is to let viewers decide for themselves, the ominous music and ongoing commentary make it clear the program's general assumption is that very bad things are being hidden from the public.



No way! Not the United States government.. They would never hide something from the public to further an objective! Never!

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Must Watch: Global Warming Conspiracy by Jesse Ventura

Unread postby chuck6877 » Fri 18 Dec 2009, 23:34:00

Jesse Ventura has a great new show on Tru TV(the old Court TV). This episode is the best so far.

Know who Maurice Strong is with the UN? You need to learn. It's all about the money. The Rothschild's, Gore, and many others are in it for money, power, and to help set up global governance. Check it out. It's very good!

Conspiracy Theory Global Warming Part 1 of 6 with Jesse Ventura:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOYwur6T6tc
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