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Re: the decision to not have offspring

Unread postby hubbertspeak7777777 » Sun 30 Mar 2008, 21:34:01

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My point entirely .... the shoe does NOT fit. Never did fit me. Never will. And does not fit 'most women'.

Maybe fits the ones you hang out with, though. I couldn't speak to that.

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Maybe you're an exception, but most of them wouldn't admit to it, anyways.
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Re: the decision to not have offspring

Unread postby peaker_2005 » Sun 30 Mar 2008, 22:01:22

I'm not a no-offspring person, there's a deep-seated desire to have kids somewhere inside, but I do wish all those who have chosen this path well.

I have however decided definitely on "no more than replacement". Any more than two kids is insane anyway.

As for the "I'm my dad" thing, I never really knew my dad, but my grandfather was heavily involved in my earlier life, and I'm seeing parts of him in me already at age 22. He was far from perfect, but there were a lot of good points about him.

As an example, my grandfather was disappointed at mum having me so young (not that alot could be done about it), but he backed her anyway so that she could at least finish year 10. And when she went to TAFE, he again supported her by being there when he could (at this point he was living in Gosford, so he couldn't be around as much as he probably would have liked).

I hope eventually I pick up his pain tolerance threshold. He was able to put up with a LOT of pain and hardly whined. He'd bring it up, but wouldn't go on and on about it like my nan seems to. Right to the end he was behind my mum, in his later years, when he couldn't help her physically, he helped financially.

Mum has a lot of him in her too.
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Re: the decision to not have offspring

Unread postby BigTex » Sun 30 Mar 2008, 22:27:16

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My point entirely .... the shoe does NOT fit. Never did fit me. Never will. And does not fit 'most women'.

Maybe fits the ones you hang out with, though. I couldn't speak to that.

Lumpy


Maybe you're an exception, but most of them wouldn't admit to it, anyways.


I'm not sure I understand what the whole "all women are whores" thing is supposed to mean in the first place.

Aren't women exactly as promiscuous as men? If we exclude homosexuals (which would probably tilt the balance in favor of men being more promiscuous), aren't heterosexual men and women EXACTLY as promiscuous?

And doesn't a woman who likes having sex have a harder time with the social ramifications of the same behavior as a man would?

Is "whore" code for "likes to have sex"? If it is, it seems like a harsh term. A similar man might be referred to as "liking the ladies" or something like that.
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Re: the decision to not have offspring

Unread postby Lumpy » Sun 30 Mar 2008, 22:34:20

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('BigTex', '
')I'm not sure I understand what the whole "all women are whores" thing is supposed to mean in the first place.

Aren't women exactly as promiscuous as men? If we exclude homosexuals (which would probably tilt the balance in favor of men being more promiscuous), aren't heterosexual men and women EXACTLY as promiscuous?

And doesn't a woman who likes having sex have a harder time with the social ramifications of the same behavior as a man would?

Is "whore" code for "likes to have sex"? If it is, it seems like a harsh term. A similar man might be referred to as "liking the ladies" or something like that.


Well put, Tex. Thanks for adding that note.

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Re: the decision to not have offspring

Unread postby hubbertspeak7777777 » Sun 30 Mar 2008, 22:47:49

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('BigTex', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('hubbertspeak7777777', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Lumpy', '
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My point entirely .... the shoe does NOT fit. Never did fit me. Never will. And does not fit 'most women'.

Maybe fits the ones you hang out with, though. I couldn't speak to that.

Lumpy


Maybe you're an exception, but most of them wouldn't admit to it, anyways.


I'm not sure I understand what the whole "all women are whores" thing is supposed to mean in the first place.

Aren't women exactly as promiscuous as men? If we exclude homosexuals (which would probably tilt the balance in favor of men being more promiscuous), aren't heterosexual men and women EXACTLY as promiscuous?

And doesn't a woman who likes having sex have a harder time with the social ramifications of the same behavior as a man would?

Is "whore" code for "likes to have sex"? If it is, it seems like a harsh term. A similar man might be referred to as "liking the ladies" or something like that.


I mean whore in the sense that they fuck for money, are always willing to trade up and they aren't worth marrying. A wife is basically a live in prostitute, anyways. Most women date/marry guys because they are big/steady earners and all men marry for consistent sex... no other reason. People can talk about love and soulmates all they want, but at the end of the day it's just bullshit.

And btw, it's not "all women", it's most "women."
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Re: the decision to not have offspring

Unread postby wisconsin_cur » Sun 30 Mar 2008, 23:03:54

There is so much projection going on here (except that feelings are being projected onto the whole human race) that it feels like a disco tech or something.

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Re: the decision to not have offspring

Unread postby BigTex » Sun 30 Mar 2008, 23:15:18

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('hubbertspeak7777777', 'I') mean whore in the sense that they fuck for money, are always willing to trade up and they aren't worth marrying. A wife is basically a live in prostitute, anyways. Most women date/marry guys because they are big/steady earners and all men marry for consistent sex... no other reason. People can talk about love and soulmates all they want, but at the end of the day it's just bullshit.

And btw, it's not "all women", it's most "women."


Are you currently married? Have you ever been married? If yes, how is it/was it? Any kids?

I think you are describing some situations, but there are a lot of other situations where your description is not accurate at all. Especially as people get older and married couples face challenges together that have nothing to do with sex or money (raising kids, dealing with sick parents, etc.).
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Re: the decision to not have offspring

Unread postby hubbertspeak7777777 » Sun 30 Mar 2008, 23:29:02

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('BigTex', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('hubbertspeak7777777', 'I') mean whore in the sense that they fuck for money, are always willing to trade up and they aren't worth marrying. A wife is basically a live in prostitute, anyways. Most women date/marry guys because they are big/steady earners and all men marry for consistent sex... no other reason. People can talk about love and soulmates all they want, but at the end of the day it's just bullshit.

And btw, it's not "all women", it's most "women."


Are you currently married? Have you ever been married? If yes, how is it/was it? Any kids?

I think you are describing some situations, but there are a lot of other situations where your description is not accurate at all. Especially as people get older and married couples face challenges together that have nothing to do with sex or money (raising kids, dealing with sick parents, etc.).


No, I have never been married, but I have been around enough married people to know that I want to avoid marriage at all costs.
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Re: the decision to not have offspring

Unread postby BigTex » Sun 30 Mar 2008, 23:36:50

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('hubbertspeak7777777', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('BigTex', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('hubbertspeak7777777', 'I') mean whore in the sense that they fuck for money, are always willing to trade up and they aren't worth marrying. A wife is basically a live in prostitute, anyways. Most women date/marry guys because they are big/steady earners and all men marry for consistent sex... no other reason. People can talk about love and soulmates all they want, but at the end of the day it's just bullshit.

And btw, it's not "all women", it's most "women."


Are you currently married? Have you ever been married? If yes, how is it/was it? Any kids?

I think you are describing some situations, but there are a lot of other situations where your description is not accurate at all. Especially as people get older and married couples face challenges together that have nothing to do with sex or money (raising kids, dealing with sick parents, etc.).


No, I have never been married, but I have been around enough married people to know that I want to avoid marriage at all costs.


That's probably a good idea for you.

But you never know, you could meet Ms. HubbertsTwinPeaks and it might change everything.
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Re: the decision to not have offspring

Unread postby bodigami » Mon 31 Mar 2008, 01:06:43

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('BigTex', '(')...)
But you never know, you could meet Ms. HubbertsTwinPeaks and it might change everything.


lol, good said. I personally have my preferences in "at least a sotapanna (someone who has entered the stream, started the Path)"... lol Ms. HubbertsTwinPeaks or maybe TwinPeaks... :lol:
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Re: the decision to not have offspring

Unread postby smiley » Mon 31 Mar 2008, 17:18:09

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A') wife is basically a live in prostitute, anyways. Most women date/marry guys because they are big/steady earners and all men marry for consistent sex... no other reason.


How bout this, men and women marry each other because they fear being alone.
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Re: the decision to not have offspring

Unread postby mos6507 » Mon 31 Mar 2008, 19:53:55

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('BigTex', '
')And doesn't a woman who likes having sex have a harder time with the social ramifications of the same behavior as a man would?


Depends on the generation. I don't think social mores mean much to anyone under 30. For women who are concerned about it, they just lie about how many men they've had as they always do.
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