$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('eastbay', 'I') had an ugly string of them in the mid 80's which lasted about 2 months and then never appeared again. They are freaky. Really horrible. One minute you're feeling fine and then BAM!!! You have to have had one to fully appreciate the sheer nastiness of the episodes.
The only possible explanation I can think of was the ... uh... weight lifting 'supplements' I started taking... and immediately quit taking, heh.
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THE Panic-Don't Panic Thread (merged)
No, not creatine... I took that for years without any side effects. This was something meant for horses, equipoise, maybe?
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Re: Panic Attacks and POers
by steam_cannon » Thu 20 Mar 2008, 11:39:35
Now speaking of Tryptophan
Irregardless if there is a connection to the parasite studies I mentioned
earlier, raising tryptophan levels seems to help alleviate panic attacks.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')b]Tryptophan Alleviates Panic Attacks
Besides being a safe and effective alternative to prescription drugs
when it comes to treating depression and anxiety, studies have
shown that 5-HTP (and its precursor, tryptophan) can also help
ward off panic attacks. In a simple yet elegant double-blind study,
researchers gave 20 patients with panic disorder and 19 normal
control subjects a drink containing amino acids (including
tryptophan) or a tryptophan-free drink that caused an 80%
decrease in plasma tryptophan levels.6 Four hours later, both the
patients and the controls were given a CO2 “challenge” when they
breathed normal air that was infused with 5% CO2.
In the patients with panic disorder, the CO2 challenge induced
panic attacks, while in the controls there was no evidence of panic.
Furthermore, those patients who had consumed the
tryptophan-free drink had even more intense panic attacks than
those who had consumed the tryptophan-containing drink. The
researchers concluded, “Serotonin may directly modulate anxiety in
patients with panic disorder. This may underlie the efficacy of
serotonergic antidepressants in treating panic disorder.” (The term
serotonergic means serotonin-related, so this would include
tryptophan, which is converted to 5-HTP, which is converted to serotonin.)
And 5-HTP Alleviates Panic Attacks
A more recent study described how 5-HTP supplementation
alleviated panic symptoms in patients with panic disorder.7 This
randomized, placebo-controlled, double-blind study examined 24
patients with panic disorder (13 men and 11 women, average age
40) and 24 normal controls. The patients were given either a
200-mg capsule of 5-HTP or placebo; 90 minutes later, they were
subjected to a 35% CO2 challenge. Immediately before and after
the challenge, the patients’ levels of anxiety and panic symptoms
were measured, using standardized tests.
The results showed a clear benefit from using 5-HTP. In the authors’
words, “Panic anxiety and symptoms, as well as the number of
panic attacks following CO2 inhalation, were significantly reduced by
5-HTP in panic disorder patients. No such effect was observed in
healthy volunteers.” It is noteworthy that 5-HTP exerted its calming
effects in a span of less than 2 hours, in contrast to the 3 to 6
weeks that it takes for prescription drugs such as Prozac to
alleviate panic attacks.
http://www.life-enhancement.com/article ... asp?id=926
Irregardless if there is a connection to the parasite studies I mentioned
earlier, raising tryptophan levels seems to help alleviate panic attacks.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')b]Tryptophan Alleviates Panic Attacks
Besides being a safe and effective alternative to prescription drugs
when it comes to treating depression and anxiety, studies have
shown that 5-HTP (and its precursor, tryptophan) can also help
ward off panic attacks. In a simple yet elegant double-blind study,
researchers gave 20 patients with panic disorder and 19 normal
control subjects a drink containing amino acids (including
tryptophan) or a tryptophan-free drink that caused an 80%
decrease in plasma tryptophan levels.6 Four hours later, both the
patients and the controls were given a CO2 “challenge” when they
breathed normal air that was infused with 5% CO2.
In the patients with panic disorder, the CO2 challenge induced
panic attacks, while in the controls there was no evidence of panic.
Furthermore, those patients who had consumed the
tryptophan-free drink had even more intense panic attacks than
those who had consumed the tryptophan-containing drink. The
researchers concluded, “Serotonin may directly modulate anxiety in
patients with panic disorder. This may underlie the efficacy of
serotonergic antidepressants in treating panic disorder.” (The term
serotonergic means serotonin-related, so this would include
tryptophan, which is converted to 5-HTP, which is converted to serotonin.)
And 5-HTP Alleviates Panic Attacks
A more recent study described how 5-HTP supplementation
alleviated panic symptoms in patients with panic disorder.7 This
randomized, placebo-controlled, double-blind study examined 24
patients with panic disorder (13 men and 11 women, average age
40) and 24 normal controls. The patients were given either a
200-mg capsule of 5-HTP or placebo; 90 minutes later, they were
subjected to a 35% CO2 challenge. Immediately before and after
the challenge, the patients’ levels of anxiety and panic symptoms
were measured, using standardized tests.
The results showed a clear benefit from using 5-HTP. In the authors’
words, “Panic anxiety and symptoms, as well as the number of
panic attacks following CO2 inhalation, were significantly reduced by
5-HTP in panic disorder patients. No such effect was observed in
healthy volunteers.” It is noteworthy that 5-HTP exerted its calming
effects in a span of less than 2 hours, in contrast to the 3 to 6
weeks that it takes for prescription drugs such as Prozac to
alleviate panic attacks.
http://www.life-enhancement.com/article ... asp?id=926
So simply eating more Turkey might help, as might 5-HTP
supplements as mentioned in this study. So this might be another
way to approach the problem without taking strong antidepressants.
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Re: Panic Attacks and POers
by steam_cannon » Thu 20 Mar 2008, 11:48:28
And this caught my eye.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')b]One line of current thought is that people who are prone
to panic attacks are hypersensitive to small changes in their
bodies’ biochemical milieu. An example of this is the way in which
people respond to carbon dioxide (CO2) in their environment.
Everyone’s brain monitors CO2 levels (subconsciously) to detect
levels that are high enough to indicate the potential for
suffocation.* Researchers have shown that in normal people, there
must be a sizeable change in CO2 levels to set off this suffocation
response; in people with panic disorder, however, even an
insignificant rise in CO2 levels can trigger a full-blown panic attack...
http://www.life-enhancement.com/article ... asp?id=926
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')b]One line of current thought is that people who are prone
to panic attacks are hypersensitive to small changes in their
bodies’ biochemical milieu. An example of this is the way in which
people respond to carbon dioxide (CO2) in their environment.
Everyone’s brain monitors CO2 levels (subconsciously) to detect
levels that are high enough to indicate the potential for
suffocation.* Researchers have shown that in normal people, there
must be a sizeable change in CO2 levels to set off this suffocation
response; in people with panic disorder, however, even an
insignificant rise in CO2 levels can trigger a full-blown panic attack...
http://www.life-enhancement.com/article ... asp?id=926
It would be rather ironic if Peak Oil / Global Warming people are
more prone to panic attacks due to greater sensitivity to CO2 levels...
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