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Re: Fox news VS AL Jazeera

Unread postby mekrob » Sun 20 Jan 2008, 14:08:23

Currently watching Al-Jazeera. Just the news; covering the Palestinian situation after Israel cut off fuel supplies which have run out (fuel needed to produce electricity). Don't expect Fox to cover that.
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Re: Fox news VS AL Jazeera

Unread postby deeciduous » Sun 20 Jan 2008, 16:02:27

A good open web site is
english.pravda.ru
This lays the skinny on military moves, kind of interesting.

But
A news agency calls themselves

FOX? And this worries no one?
Fox in the chicken coop?
Foxy?
Smart and sneaky as a fox?

the elite symbols that are not recognizable to the public,
lets them think they are a level smarter or something.
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Al-Jazeera "Peaked?"

Unread postby Alcassin » Tue 19 Feb 2008, 20:38:25

"We should find Saudi Arabia every 4 years"
10 mins.

Link
Part II
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Re: Al-Jazeera "Peaked?"

Unread postby roccman » Tue 19 Feb 2008, 21:08:08

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Alcassin', '"')We should find Saudi Arabia every 4 years"
10 mins.

Link


Well - I think the likelihood of that happening are about as good as AP seeing 911 in its true light.

So whatz part II?
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Re: Al-Jazeera "Peaked?"

Unread postby Alcassin » Tue 19 Feb 2008, 21:17:34

Oh, I think guys from AlJazeera use Savinar's site :D
Updated, part II inluded :)
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Re: Al-Jazeera "Peaked?"

Unread postby Armageddon » Tue 19 Feb 2008, 21:47:53

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('roccman', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Alcassin', '"')We should find Saudi Arabia every 4 years"
10 mins.

Link


Well - I think the likelihood of that happening are about as good as AP seeing 911 in its true light.

So whatz part II?



Deep down, AP knows 911 was an inside job. He is one of those that can't admit defeat.
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Al Jazeera sets cat among Palestinian Pidgeons.

Unread postby SeaGypsy » Mon 24 Jan 2011, 10:56:39

http://english.aljazeera.net/

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'O')ver the last several months, Al Jazeera has been given unhindered access to the largest-ever leak of confidential documents related to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. There are nearly 1,700 files, thousands of pages of diplomatic correspondence detailing the inner workings of the Israeli-Palestinian peace process. These documents – memos, e-mails, maps, minutes from private meetings, accounts of high level exchanges, strategy papers and even power point presentations – date from 1999 to 2010.

The material is voluminous and detailed; it provides an unprecedented look inside the continuing negotiations involving high-level American, Israeli, and Palestinian Authority officials.

Al Jazeera will release the documents between January 23-26th, 2011. They will reveal new details about:

the Palestinian Authority’s willingness to concede illegal Israeli settlements in East Jerusalem, and to be “creative” about the status of the Haram al-Sharif/Temple Mount;
the compromises the Palestinian Authority was prepared to make on refugees and the right of return;
details of the PA’s security cooperation with Israel;
and private exchanges between Palestinian and American negotiators in late 2009, when the Goldstone Report was being discussed at the United Nations.
Because of the sensitive nature of these documents, Al Jazeera will not reveal the source(s) or detail how they came into our possession. We have taken great care over an extended period of time to assure ourselves of their authenticity.

We believe this material will prove to be of inestimable value to journalists, scholars, historians, policymakers and the general public.

We know that some of what is presented here will prove controversial, but it is our intention to inform, not harm, to spark debate and reflection – not dampen it. Our readers and viewers will note that we have provided a comments section in which to express opinions. In keeping with our editorial policies, we reserve the right to excise comments that we deem inappropriate, but all civil voices will be heard, all opinions respected.

We present these papers as a service to our viewers and readers as a reflection of our fundamental belief – that public debate and public policies grow, flourish and endure when given air and light....


This looks interesting.....
I suspect this goes back to Wikileaks, but AJ is not saying...
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Re: Al Jazeera sets cat among Palestinian Pidgeons.

Unread postby mos6507 » Mon 24 Jan 2011, 12:22:32

None of this should be a surprise to anybody. You can't have diplomacy without some degree of compromise. Unfortunately the Palestinian public aren't interested in compromise. Oo it forces the PA to be two-faced, saying one thing to its people and acting differently with Israel. That's true I think of a lot of middle-eastern leaders, who through pragmatics alone (no love of Israel, mind you) have to cooperate to some extent. If they want an absolutist position, they can have Hamas, which yields them nothing.
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Re: Al Jazeera sets cat among Palestinian Pidgeons.

Unread postby Keith_McClary » Mon 24 Jan 2011, 14:25:06

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mos6507', 'U')nfortunately the Palestinian public aren't interested in compromise. Oo it forces the PA to be two-faced, saying one thing to its people and acting differently with Israel.

And the Zionists don't need to - they just help themselves at gunpoint like they've been doing since 1948:
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', ' ')"Israel takes more land [so] that the Palestinian state will be impossible"; that "the Israel policy is to take more and more land day after day and that at the end of the day we'll say that is impossible, we already have the land and we cannot create the state". She [Tzipi Livni, Israel's foreign minister] conceded that it had been "the policy of the government for a really long time".

And of course the Jewish People know the plan, it hardly matters if she says it out loud.
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Good News: Al Jazeera Kids Channel Coming to American TV…

Unread postby timmac » Wed 09 Mar 2011, 18:35:31

Good News: Al Jazeera Kids Channel Coming to American TV…


Bye-bye Barney. Hello Farfur!

(The Blaze) — Considering her recent praise for Al Jazeera, Hillary Clinton might do cartwheels when she hears about this story.

Al Jazeera, the controversial Arab news network often criticized for its unfriendly-to-America bent, is trying to figure out a way to get on American cable television. So what idea did it come up with? Use the kids. Yes, Al Jazeera has just announced plans for an English-language network for children — in North America.

According to the magazine Fast Company, the project is supposed to be completed by the end of 2012. And while the new channel will feature some original programming, content will also “be a mix of syndicated shows from other sources and original programming, dubbed into English, from the already existing Arabic-language Al Jazeera Children’s Channel.”

Keep reading…

This show is bound to make the left weak in the knees. It’s an animated series about the Crusades where Christians are the bad guys and 11th-century Islamic warlord Saladin is the hero.




Bye-bye Barney. Hello Farfur!
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Re: Good News: Al Jazeera Kids Channel Coming to American TV

Unread postby Sixstrings » Wed 09 Mar 2011, 18:49:55

I don't know tim, what's your point are we supposed to be scared of Al Jazeera?

Fox News scares me. And MTV if I land on that by accident, and Dancing With the Stars, and oh that medical channel is the worst with all the "mystery diagnosis" horrible disease shows and gruesome surgeries.

I don't watch Al Jazeera. And I don't watch Press TV because yes that's Iranian. RT clips I'll watch now and then but I don't like it too much because it's propaganda -- I'd respect Max Keiser a lot more if he'd have something to say about Russia for a change.

But Al Jazeera.. why are they scary? Look at what's happened in the middle east.. without Al Jazeera doing honest coverage (something Egyptian state TV was not) we wouldn't have seen all these dictators topple one after the other.

It's free speech tim.. nothing more American than that.
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Re: Good News: Al Jazeera Kids Channel Coming to American TV

Unread postby timmac » Wed 09 Mar 2011, 18:57:53

Well half my post did not post, can't seem to get any pics loaded, keeps kicking them out, the pics would show more of my post, will see if I can get them loaded later.

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Re: Good News: Al Jazeera Kids Channel Coming to American TV

Unread postby mos6507 » Wed 09 Mar 2011, 21:32:14

This is one case where I side with the borg happyface.

It's a free country but I suspect there will be plenty of disturbing crap on this channel. But then I'm also disturbed by Home Shopping Network, American Idol, and the 700 Club.
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Re: Good News: Al Jazeera Kids Channel Coming to American TV

Unread postby Ludi » Wed 09 Mar 2011, 21:36:17

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('timmac', ' ')It’s an animated series about the Crusades where Christians are the bad guys



Seems like they kinda were the bad guys seeing as they invaded the Holy Land and killed a lot of people in spite of Jesus saying not to kill folks.

Sort of hard to see how the Crusaders were the good guys.

:?:

The only good guys were all the innocent people who were killed by both sides.

:(

For the Glory of God, of course (on both sides).

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Re: Good News: Al Jazeera Kids Channel Coming to American TV

Unread postby mos6507 » Wed 09 Mar 2011, 21:48:02

Actually the lesson muslims need to learn about the Crusades is not that the crusaders were bad. That's been drilled into them for 1000 years. The lesson they need to hear today, is that Saladin was more chivalrous than the europeans, and he would be ashamed at terrorist tactics.
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Re: Good News: Al Jazeera Kids Channel Coming to American TV

Unread postby Ludi » Wed 09 Mar 2011, 21:50:41

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mos6507', 'A')ctually the lesson muslims need to learn about the Crusades is not that the crusaders were bad. That's been drilled into them for 1000 years. The lesson they need to hear today, is that Saladin was more chivalrous than the europeans, and he would be ashamed at terrorist tactics.



Most Muslims are ashamed of terrorist tactics.
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Re: Good News: Al Jazeera Kids Channel Coming to American TV

Unread postby mos6507 » Wed 09 Mar 2011, 21:56:14

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', '
')Most Muslims are ashamed of terrorist tactics.


How shall you prove that "assumption".
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The emirs gambit: Al Jazeera as security.

Unread postby dorlomin » Fri 25 Mar 2011, 05:24:55

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/mar/24/qatar-planes-libya-high-stakes

An intersting view of Al Jazeera as a key to popularity on the Arab street (a phrase that is rapidly dating) to offer a measure of protection to the rulers of Qatar. Bit like Abramovitch and Chel$ki.
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Al Jazeera - Fault Lines: The Top 1%, inequality in America

Unread postby Sixstrings » Thu 04 Aug 2011, 05:19:44

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he richest 1% of US Americans earn nearly a quarter of the country's income and control an astonishing 40% of its wealth. Inequality in the US is more extreme than it's been in almost a century — and the gap between the super rich and the poor and middle class people has widened drastically over the last 30 years.

(snip) How did the gap grow so wide, and so quickly? And how are the convictions, campaign contributions and charitable donations of the top 1% impacting the other 99% of Americans? Fault Lines investigates the gap between the rich and the rest.

This episode of Fault Lines first aired on Al Jazeera English on August 2, 2011 at 0930 GMT.
Video documentary, 25 minutes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdVODFombco&feature=player_embedded

Ok normally I'd never go to the Aljazeera English site, since they're muslim and scary and all that. But the other day I saw an article about the channel coming to NYC, and surprisingly the comments were all very supportive -- people like the channel.

Turns out it's an interesting channel.. good solid reporting on all kinds of topics, lots of international culture stuff. They do a lot of these high quality 30 minute news specials.

Anyhow, Dailykos is linking this:
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'S')TUNNING Al Jazeera documentary on American Income Inequality NAILS IT; It's the OLIGARCHY, stupid

This video is a must see. If you want to watch Paul Ryan cower in fear of real journalists who aren't paid to be "fair and balanced", if you want real journalistic coverage of the bipartisan robbery of the working class, please watch this and enjoy. If you were floored by Michael Moore's Documentary on this subject "Capitalism: A Love Story", this will be right up your alley. I strongly encourage you to spread this documentary far and wide.

I wish we had Journalism like this in America. Too bad the American Oligarchy prefers it's peasants ignorant.

In a report on Income Inequality in America, Al Jazeera does what the corporate owned American media refuse to do. They report the facts.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/08/03/1002554/-STUNNING-Al-Jazeera-documentary-on-American-Income-Inequality-NAILS-IT;-Its-the-OLIGARCHY,-stupid?via=siderec

I knew all this already, but it's nice to see the truth getting out. Here are some highlights:

* Advertisers have shifted focus from marketing to middle class, now to where the money is -- $200,000 plus earners.

* Inequality in the US is the worst it's ever been in almost a 100 years, last time it was so bad was the Great Depression

* Globalization is to blame

* Government is controlled by Wall Street

* Koch brothers funding all these right wing think tanks

* Trickle down is a fraud, giving more money to the wealthy just makes them wealthy they don't spend more in the US or create jobs here

In summary, AJE is a good alternative news source. Lots of business people watch it when they travel internationally. I don't know though, is this something Americans shouldn't be watching because it's "Al Jazeera?" I figure if it's going to be on TV over here then that's ok, and from what I've seen so far the propaganda slant isn't overt as with RT.

Maybe the best way to know what's going on in the world is watch American mainstream news and the alternative sources then decide for yourself.

EDIT: I see it's featured over at Firedoglake now too:
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')ncredible new Aljazeera documentary about US inequality
http://my.firedoglake.com/athena1/2011/08/03/incredible-new-aljazeera-documentary-about-us-inequality/

..and also on democraticunderground.com
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Re: Al Jazeera - Fault Lines: The Top 1%, inequality in Amer

Unread postby Outcast_Searcher » Thu 04 Aug 2011, 19:25:02

Naturally this is posted on "The Daily KOS", a site so far left it excites MSNBC.

Naturally, the fact that the top 1% pay far more of the proportion of federal taxes than the proportion of their income isn't mentioned.

Naturally, one of the main reasons, advanced technology -- requiring advanced education to utilize, which governments are NOT dealing with, is not even cited as a reason.

I'm sure this gets the left wing all excited and happy to have some boogeyman (oligarchs) to rave about, but it does nothing to identify or fix the real core problem.

Considering who runs the Middle East, and especially Saudi Arabia, isn't raving about oligarchs in the U.S. kind of ironic?
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