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Re: Another Oil price Record

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Re: Another Record

Unread postby PeakingAroundtheCorner » Tue 19 Feb 2008, 16:41:56

I think you are right, Leanan. IIRC the high mark was indeed $100.09. It's backed off a bit now.
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Re: Another Record

Unread postby Valdemar » Tue 19 Feb 2008, 17:11:13

Nothing to see here, it's market fear premiums, LOL. S'okay, mistah, you go and buy that 3 litre SUV. Plenty of oil on paper still, and that's all that counts.
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Re: Another Record

Unread postby Leanan » Tue 19 Feb 2008, 17:11:48

A new record close:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'O')il settles at all-time high of $100.01. OPEC cuts, refinery fire and Exxon's Chavez fight all contribute to runup.
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Re: Another Record

Unread postby Dan1195 » Tue 19 Feb 2008, 17:13:42

I knew there was the refinery outage and the tiff between Chavez and Exxon but I never expected oil get back to $100 today.
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Re: Another Record

Unread postby emersonbiggins » Tue 19 Feb 2008, 17:21:13

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Dan1195', 'I') knew there was the refinery outage and the tiff between Chavez and Exxon but I never expected oil get back to $100 today.


Commodities are probably being used as a temporary hedge from the falling USD right now - just a guess.
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Re: Another Record

Unread postby thor » Tue 19 Feb 2008, 17:21:14

In view of a looming recession, I still hear people saying that the price of oil would drop like a brick for a long time


Yeah right ....
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Re: Another Record

Unread postby PeakingAroundtheCorner » Tue 19 Feb 2008, 17:30:58

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Dan1195', 'I') knew there was the refinery outage and the tiff between Chavez and Exxon but I never expected oil get back to $100 today.


Add to that the planned March OPEC production cut and Calderon's remarks about Mexico's production and it's shaping up to be the first major challenge reslting from the cumulating effects of supply vs. demand fundamentals, geologic constraints, overpopulation and act-of-God manifestations.

And this is only the beginning. I hope you all are ready and I wish you all the best of luck because the previews have ended and the feature presentation of Peak Oil is about to begin - with a fucking vengeance.
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Re: Another Record

Unread postby joewp » Tue 19 Feb 2008, 17:49:45

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PeakingAroundtheCorner', '
')And this is only the beginning. I hope you all are ready and I wish you all the best of luck because the previews have ended and the feature presentation of Peak Oil is about to begin - with a fucking vengeance.


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Re: Another Record

Unread postby Armageddon » Tue 19 Feb 2008, 17:51:41

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PeakingAroundtheCorner', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Dan1195', 'I') knew there was the refinery outage and the tiff between Chavez and Exxon but I never expected oil get back to $100 today.


Add to that the planned March OPEC production cut and Calderon's remarks about Mexico's production and it's shaping up to be the first major challenge reslting from the cumulating effects of supply vs. demand fundamentals, geologic constraints, overpopulation and act-of-God manifestations.

And this is only the beginning. I hope you all are ready and I wish you all the best of luck because the previews have ended and the feature presentation of Peak Oil is about to begin - with a fucking vengeance.



Yup, agree completely.
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Re: Another Record

Unread postby Chuckmak » Tue 19 Feb 2008, 17:59:12

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('joewp', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PeakingAroundtheCorner', '
')And this is only the beginning. I hope you all are ready and I wish you all the best of luck because the previews have ended and the feature presentation of Peak Oil is about to begin - with a fucking vengeance.


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pass some of that popcorn over here, joe.
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Re: Another Record

Unread postby thor » Tue 19 Feb 2008, 18:03:36

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('joewp', ' ')[smilie=new_popcornsmiley.gif]


We will be participants, not spectators :(
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Re: Another Record

Unread postby emersonbiggins » Tue 19 Feb 2008, 18:05:30

Oil closes above $100 for the first time - $100.01 /bbl, 19 Feb 2008


$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', ' ')AP
Oil Jumps Above $100 on Refinery Outage
Tuesday February 19, 3:08 pm ET
By John Wilen, AP Business Writer
Oil Jumps Back Above $100 on a Texas Refinery Outage and Possible OPEC Production Cut

NEW YORK (AP) -- Oil futures shot higher Tuesday, closing above $100 for the first time as investors bet that crude prices will keep climbing despite evidence of plentiful supplies and falling demand. At the pump, gas prices rose further above $3 a gallon.

There was no single driver behind oil's sharp price jump; investors seized on an explosion at a 67,000 barrel per day refinery in Texas, the falling dollar, the possibility that OPEC may cut production next month, and continuing tensions between the U.S. and Venezuela.

Gasoline and heating oil prices appeared to be leading the advance, rising faster in percentage terms than oil due to the explosion Monday at Alon USA's Big Spring, Texas, refinery, which could be shuttered for two months.

"The refinery fire in Texas is making people a little concerned," said Michael Lynch, president of Strategic Energy & Economic Research Inc. in Amherst, Mass.

Light, sweet crude for March delivery rose $4.51 to settle at a record $100.01 a barrel on the New York Mercantile Exchange after earlier rising to $100.10, a new trading record. It was the first time since Jan. 3 that oil had been above $100.
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Re: Another Record

Unread postby DantesPeak » Tue 19 Feb 2008, 18:10:15

Michael Lynch, haven't heard much in the way from him for a while.

I guess if you are consistently wrong about energy prices even the media won't quote you every day - unless you are from CERA. They seem to have some kind of permanent free pass to never have to account for their consistent forecasting failures.
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Re: Another Record

Unread postby emersonbiggins » Tue 19 Feb 2008, 18:37:32

Speaking of, we're back up over 2.63 Yergins with today's close. 8)

Can you tell the difference between the people below?

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Re: Another Record

Unread postby joeltrout » Tue 19 Feb 2008, 18:47:32

Where oil will go as told in 2004.

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Re: Another Record

Unread postby emersonbiggins » Tue 19 Feb 2008, 19:03:34

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('joeltrout', '[')url=http://www.nationalreview.com/nrof_leuffer/leuffer200411300840.asp]Where oil will go[/url] as told in 2004.

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Pure comedy gold!

Here's another:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', ' ')A drop in oil prices to a more normal level, of $18 to $20 barrels a day, would stimulate economic growth and likely would be beneficial to many industries, just as it was in 1991. However, oil stocks will likely come under pressure. In 1991, the S&P 500 advanced 26.3% while the S&P Oil Composite rose only 4.3%.

The longer term outlook for Iraq and its oil production is uncertain. The country could expand output capacity to 5 million or 6 million barrels a day within three years of operating under a stable government. To be sure, a new government will seek to rebuild the country’s economy, and it must do so by resurrecting its oil industry. This could put oil prices under pressure for many years.


NRO, January. 2003

I, for one, can't wait for Iraq to be pumping 5-6 MBPD. First, we'll have to get that "stable government" in place. Hmmm....
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Re: Another Record

Unread postby LastViking » Tue 19 Feb 2008, 19:20:21

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('DantesPeak', 'M')ichael Lynch, haven't heard much in the way from him for a while.

I guess if you are consistently wrong about energy prices even the media won't quote you every day - unless you are from CERA. They seem to have some kind of permanent free pass to never have to account for their consistent forecasting failures.


The media doesn't expect Energy analysts (or any at all for that matter) to be correct "all the time". They only have to be right "more often" than the Peaksters.
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Re: Another Record

Unread postby emersonbiggins » Tue 19 Feb 2008, 19:24:24

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('LastViking', 'T')hey only have to be right "more often" than the Peaksters.


If that's the standard that analysts are held to, then they're clearly failing, and quite miserably, I might add.

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Re: Another Record

Unread postby LastViking » Tue 19 Feb 2008, 19:41:31

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('joeltrout', '[')url=http://www.nationalreview.com/nrof_leuffer/leuffer200411300840.asp]Where oil will go[/url] as told in 2004.


2004. A good year. Do you also remember:

Peak Oil: 80 mb/d in 2006
ASPO Newsletter #43 July/2004
Depletion Model Tables
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Re: Another Record

Unread postby DantesPeak » Tue 19 Feb 2008, 19:55:28

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('LastViking', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('joeltrout', '[')url=http://www.nationalreview.com/nrof_leuffer/leuffer200411300840.asp]Where oil will go[/url] as told in 2004.


2004. A good year. Do you also remember:

Peak Oil: 80 mb/d in 2006
ASPO Newsletter #43 July/2004
Depletion Model Tables


What price did ASPO predict in that report?
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