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Re: Question for the blacks and mexicans

Unread postby Cloud9 » Wed 30 Jan 2008, 08:56:41

This thread is the best justification for the second amendment I can imagine. All of us irregardless of our color must come to understand that our different colored neighbors harbor resentment against us. That resentment simply stems from our differences. Clearly from this thread given the right triggers, our neighbors would be more than happy to string us up or hack us to death with their machetes. The milk of human kindness has soured.

I for one shall remain well armed and vigilant in the effort to keep the lives of me and mine secure. I suggest the rest of you do the same.
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Re: Question for the blacks and mexicans

Unread postby Chesire » Wed 30 Jan 2008, 12:03:08

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Narz', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('I_Like_Plants', 'W')ell, I am. I'm sick and tires of you coloreds living at my people's expense.

I'm white dumbass.

And has it ever crossed your mind that the "coloreds" were specifically brought here by white people? And that the Meixcans you love to hate actually have more right to this continent than you or I do?


Pre civil war almost any person unhappy with the US was free to move the fuck out.

Post civil war everyone was free to move the fuck out.

Apparently the homelands of all and sundry sucked as much then as they do now. Since the majority of them stayed .

Pre collapse everyone is still free to move the fuck out.

Post collapse a lot of people will wish they did.

Darwinism will give a lot of folks a big ole mushroom slap WTSHTF .I will have a good laugh or five watching it happen too.
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Re: Question for the blacks and mexicans

Unread postby dinopello » Wed 30 Jan 2008, 12:18:26

It would be interesting to get an Indian (Native American) perspective on some of this.
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Re: Question for the blacks and mexicans

Unread postby Zardoz » Wed 30 Jan 2008, 12:23:10

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cloud9', 'C')learly from this thread given the right triggers, our neighbors would be more than happy to string us up or hack us to death with their machetes...

Really? You've arrived at a final conclusion regarding the behavior of all people from what you've read in a particularly stupid thread in a lame forum in a small Internet message board? That's all it takes for you, huh?

You're easily swayed, aren't you?
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Re: Question for the blacks and mexicans

Unread postby jasonraymondson » Wed 30 Jan 2008, 12:37:11

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dinopello', 'I')t would be interesting to get an Indian (Native American) perspective on some of this.



DEAR WHITE MAN, YOU STOLE OUR LANDS AND RAPED OUR WOMEN ... FUCK YOU


Actual view of this native american.


BTW, you all suck you appologistic pieces of shit. History is written by the winners, but now it appears to be getting written by a bunch of whupped pussies.

Everyone goes around pretending that they are not racist, when everyone at some level or another is. I am friends with quite a few blacks, but most of them are the most racist white hating assholes I have ever come across. Most mexicans I know... don't like whites well enough to even bother learning the fucking language.


You came to this country and your ancestors killed off nearly all of the indigenous people... but I don't see us getting out of school for native american day
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Re: Question for the blacks and mexicans

Unread postby BigTex » Wed 30 Jan 2008, 12:41:57

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jasonraymondson', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dinopello', 'I')t would be interesting to get an Indian (Native American) perspective on some of this.



DEAR WHITE MAN, YOU STOLE OUR LANDS AND RAPED OUR WOMEN ... FUCK YOU


Actual view of this native american.


BTW, you all suck you appologistic pieces of shit. History is written by the winners, but now it appears to be getting written by a bunch of whupped pussies.

Everyone goes around pretending that they are not racist, when everyone at some level of another is. I am friends with quite a few blacks, but most of them are some of the most racist white hating assholes I have ever come across. Most mexicans I know... don't like whites well enough to even bother learning the fucking language.


If I'm driving 61 in a 55 mph zone and a guy flies by me doing 100 mph, I may say he's crazy. We were both speeding, though. I think it matters how far to the extremes you go. It's not hypocritical to say the 100 mph driver is crazy even though you were speeding too.
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Re: Question for the blacks and mexicans

Unread postby Eli » Wed 30 Jan 2008, 12:50:05

What a pathetic thread.

Why did the Mods of this forum decide to give out the title of "expert"

Ayoob is an expert at what exactly? Being a complete friggin reversed racist idiot? That is much more accurate.

Mods you have done this site a huge disservice by handing out the term expert. Unless they send in a degree in petroleum engineering there are no experts here, just people who post on the internet.

Blanket insults to every "white" person, women, Black,Mexican and Jew. Great thread.

Jason are you a member of an actual Indian tribe? because if your not you need a nice big cup of shut the fuck up.

Indians are indifferent towards "whites" in general and it depends on the tribe what feelings they have towards them and the area of the country. Indians have very different feelings on race depending on the tribe, and the difference is stark. I could give you my qualifications for that statement but this thread is too fucking stupid to justify that.



Jesus, what a stupid friggin thread we are all stupider for having it here. Why dear Lord did I just waste my time on this crap?
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Re: Question for the blacks and mexicans

Unread postby jasonraymondson » Wed 30 Jan 2008, 12:56:19

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Eli', '
')Jason are you a member of an actual Indian tribe? because if your not you need a nice big cup of shut the fuck up.

Indians are indifferent towards "whites" in general and it depends on the tribe what feelings they have towards them and the area of the country. Indians have very different feelings on race depending on the tribe, and the difference is stark. I could give you my qualifications for that statement but this thread is too fucking stupid to justify that.



Actually I do belong to an actual tribe.


Yes, your right we are... because we gave you tobacco and have been successfully killing you off for generations. lol
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Re: Question for the blacks and mexicans

Unread postby BigTex » Wed 30 Jan 2008, 12:59:20

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Eli', 'W')hat a pathetic thread.

Why did the Mods of this forum decide to give out the title of "expert"

Ayoob is an expert at what exactly? Being a complete friggin reversed racist idiot? That is much more accurate.

Mods you have done this site a huge disservice by handing out the term expert. Unless they send in a degree in petroleum engineering there are no experts here, just people who post on the internet.


I thought the Expert tags were a joke. Kind of like wearing a toga at a toga party.
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Re: Question for the blacks and mexicans

Unread postby jasonraymondson » Wed 30 Jan 2008, 13:00:37

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('BigTex', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Eli', 'W')hat a pathetic thread.

Why did the Mods of this forum decide to give out the title of "expert"

Ayoob is an expert at what exactly? Being a complete friggin reversed racist idiot? That is much more accurate.

Mods you have done this site a huge disservice by handing out the term expert. Unless they send in a degree in petroleum engineering there are no experts here, just people who post on the internet.


I thought the Expert tags were a joke. Kind of like wearing a toga at a toga party.



Just remember I am the first to start bashing this, though it is about time that everyone else got on board
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Re: Question for the blacks and mexicans

Unread postby Eli » Wed 30 Jan 2008, 13:09:02

Far enough everyone has an opinion mine differs from yours.

Still this is a great thread. :roll:

Big Tex they are a joke, but I don't think they were intended to be.

The mods need to think about the fact that new comers are going to come here and assume these "experts", really are experts. When in fact many of them should have title of "troll", "idiot", or "asshole".
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Re: Question for the blacks and mexicans

Unread postby jasonraymondson » Wed 30 Jan 2008, 13:11:14

only my opinion matters.
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Re: Question for the blacks and mexicans

Unread postby furrydog » Wed 30 Jan 2008, 13:40:00

"It would be interesting to get an Indian (Native American) perspective on some of this."

They're sitting on the sideline waiting to get Turtle Island back.
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Re: Question for the blacks and mexicans

Unread postby PeakingAroundtheCorner » Wed 30 Jan 2008, 14:21:28

ARFKM?!?

Ayoob, you are the racist and if you're not happy here, you are more than welcome to persue your roots.

Lay off the racist bullshit, asshole!?
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Re: Question for the blacks and mexicans

Unread postby jasonraymondson » Wed 30 Jan 2008, 14:43:30

YAY RACISM FOR EVERYONE. BECAUSE JESUS HATES EVERYONE... ESPECIALLY YOU!
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Re: Question for the blacks and mexicans

Unread postby Flowerr » Wed 30 Jan 2008, 14:51:14

The guys who run the world are fat old european white guy perverts and they arent going to loose, everyone else that is left alive after the race wars will go into camps.. i don't think they care about indians or blacks or whatever, they're doing their best to increase inter-racial tensions with the goal of eliminating as many of the them right now as they can. The poor ones, it is easy for them, just cause a few famines or wars or spread a few epidemics and many are eliminated. But the middle class have to be made poor first then the same techniques can again be used. Meanwhile lots of rasing tensions, keep them hot and bothered.

You want to have a racial conflagration? Welll, so do they, you will be an asset for them.
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Re: Question for the blacks and mexicans

Unread postby Cloud9 » Wed 30 Jan 2008, 14:57:57

Zardoc, read Becoming Evil by James Waller. Compare what is written there with what is being spouted here. One reason for the Nazi success rate was Jewish cooperation. I do not plan to cooperate.

The holocaust started with a rant.
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Re: Question for the blacks and mexicans

Unread postby BlisteredWhippet » Wed 30 Jan 2008, 15:58:55

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ayoob', 'W')e've had a number of race-related threads on this board, and I want to approach this topic from another angle.


I'm intrigued. Do tell.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')b]It's pretty obvious that there are a lot of racist white people in the United States. More than 70% of Americans (black, white, and mexican) want the illegal aliens sent back to wherever they've come from. That's kind of an asshole move, isn't it.


Fallacy: Poisoning the well.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')lso, white people enslaved black people and then wrote jim crow laws and segregated themselves, and all kinds of other KKK badness.

We can all join together and agree that white people are bad.


More poison for the well.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')hat said, why is it that blacks and mexicans want to live among white people so badly? Is is the money? Other than money, is there any other reason that blacks and mexicans want to live among whites who clearly don't want them around?


News flash: no one who doesn't live in Southern California or anywhere else seeing a deluge of immigrants really understand the issue- and they will not understand it if people who know it put it in such kindergarten terms as, "Why de black r brown man want live wit us? I dunnot unnerstan...!"

The only way someone can understand anything constructive about the issue is facts and realities. Racial thinking is a dead fucking end in every possible respect. A person playing the race card, is to me, someone who is either cunning or an idiot. Cunning, if their advocacy of race appeals to their base of idiots, or an idiot if their advocacy of race short-circuits the important issues that represent the bigger picture or reality of the situation.

Currently the Pro-immigrant side is winning because they play the easy race card. They have "victim power" to manipulate the message and consolidate the base. As weak a position as this is, the Anti- side is even weaker- because it is fractured and focuses on 'race'. This is a "Look at my thumb- Gee you're dumb" situation. The Anti- side gets hammered again and again because they cannot protect their flank- the economic and ecological aspect of the question.

The Anti- side- which is mostly unintelligent Americans- are hamstrung by a culutral history of acting against their self-interest. The economic question is avoided because no one wants to examine that. The ecological question is avoided for the same reason. Both are avoided because the average American is a loathsome moron who is invested heavily in extractive or non-productive economic activity, or is invested in practices or habits which are ecologically unsustainable.

Regardless of its lack or merit, the phenomenon can be summed up simply like so: "Who are we to judge them"? Again and again the naked ignorance of the American proletariat is revealed by the insipid and repeated refrain.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
')If I was a mexican, I wouldn't...

You're just not capable of this level of social imagination.

The difficult lesson of racial argument is simply this: elevating race above class as the reason for economic or social phenomena tends to thwart understanding of the phenomena that created the question.

The more you flog "race", the less people think about the real issues of immigration. That is the technique of the Pro- side and is highly effective because of its appeal to tribalism, simplistic stereotypes, and emotionality. It will not work for the Anti- side until real issues are brought to bear. As this is a representative democracy, the clock is ticking as more and more immigrants are nationalized on a daily basis. Sooner or later the self-interested bloc will be too large, and the argument to close the borders will be a permanent minority position.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
')Why in the world would black people work for white people who openly dislike them? Why would mexicans work for white people who obviously see them as cheap labor? I wouldn't put up with that shit for a second. I am worthy of respect in the labor marketplace, and I demand of my employers that they treat me with the ordinary, common dignity that a working man is owed.

You must be thick. Migration is an economic and ecological problem. Mexico is an overstuffed, trashed piece of old colonial shit. So is Africa. If things weren't shitty, they wouldn't leave. I've traveled through Mexico and talked to the people. They don't want to leave. They love their country. They are also severely retarded intellectually and culturally by religion and culture. But surveys report they are happier, on average, than Americans.

America doesn't talk about Mexico in terms of Mexico's best interests- thats why it stayed silent as many of their best and brightest left the country. Joe Blow on the street in America doesn't care because Joe doesn't know anything the newspaper doesn't tell him- and the repeated refrain is that the illegal immigrants are needed- no- required for his cheap strawberries and roof. The message is sculpted as primarily appealing to his best interest, not the interests of Mexicans.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I') didn't like the shitty treatment I got, so I moved.

Why can't you extrapolate from your own reasoning to understand the thinking of someone else?

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
')Since it's obvious that the US is a racist place, why don't black people move to Africa or any other majority-black place so they don't have to deal with racism? Consider Haiti. Any black person can move to Haiti and live among their own kind and not have any racism to deal with.

You are an idiot. An African-American has absolutely nothing in common with a Haitian.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')sn't that better than being looked down upon?

Yo- what planet are you living on? This is capitalist America. Everyone looks down on people that work on farms, do manual labor, or are generally poor. Its part of a worldview that sees material success as a marker of competitive fitness. So if all the brown people left tomorrow, do you think the white people working in the fields or on the roofs are going to suddenly have social prestige?

The idea that people look down on transient, blue-collar workers because of their race is absurd. They look down at them for the reasons I just described. Lower-class as social leprosy. If we cared about ANY of them, why wouldn't we invest in schools, hospitals, their neighborhoods, provide medical insurance, training, or living wages?

I'll tell you why- because America is gladiatorial economic combat. Its not a good show if there aren't hordes to feed to the four horsemen- the lower rungs of the economic ladder.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', ' ')I'd rather be poor and dignified than slightly less poor but despised.

Making an American wage in dollars vs. pesos is not "slightly less poor", its several orders of magnitude richer. Wage laborers send home money (making a huge slice of Western Union's business) and those dollars buy a brick house. Try making minimum wage and building a house in the US... or land for that matter.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'W')hy not go back where you belong and live among your own kind, and be happy there? Do you have a good reason why you don't? Is Africa so bad? Is Mexico so bad?

If those places are so horrible, do you understand why white people object to having black and mexican neighbors?

I gotta be honest with you; you sound like an ignorant loon whose own racism is making it impossible to see these people AS people. Your questions are stupid, if only because the answers are apparent if you actually consider the people AS people.

As for the foundations of racism, the basic theme is disenfranchisement: how about 20+ years of economic warfare waged on the lower and middle classes through globalization of trade, open borders, and steadily worsening educational values. Adam Smith: people act in their own self-interest- Unless or course, you're handing out free lunches on the other side of the border.

Immigration is a social, economic and ecological issue. Anyone who uses "race" as an aspect of argument is just obfuscating. The pro/anti immigration debate rhetoric uses "race" as a football. The Pro- side uses it as a weapon to consolidate their base of idiots. The Anti- side has no effective rhetorical means to defend. To collapse into the solipsism of racial argument defeats the point. For the Anti- side to win the debate it has to get off the needle of industrial capitalism that drives the problem, overthrow globalism, shun the media and religion, re-engage and reform the political process and public education, and re-establish American culture from the ground-up hamburger it currently is.
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Re: Question for the blacks and mexicans

Unread postby holmes » Wed 30 Jan 2008, 16:14:10

I love hot woman of all races. I am a RACIST! :-)
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Re: Question for the blacks and mexicans

Unread postby holmes » Wed 30 Jan 2008, 16:20:29

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('furrydog', '"')It would be interesting to get an Indian (Native American) perspective on some of this."

They're sitting on the sideline waiting to get Turtle Island back.


sadly tho it that they have lost nearly all their "sustainability". They are just more consumers living in a fantasy world. Bloated on cheap plastic and booze and big corrupt casino money contolled by mafiosas. Taken the habits of the bloated whites and their slaves. The Indians especially on the eastern seaboard have been usurped by negroes with 1/16 or less native american blood. Sad but true. the ghost dance has ended forever. Very few are trying to build earthships and growing crops on the reservations. Bringing the buffallo back. They prefer kentucky fried and swansons. I reccomended EarthShips awhile back. they are building a few on the Pine Ridge Res.
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