[Schadenfreude]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Schadenfreude', '
')
It's shameful.

Where is FOX NEWS now.

[Plantagenet]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Schadenfreude', ' ')Why would the "liberal media" cover up a story about proliferation of American nuclear secrets by an international network of moles which includes the active participation of Conservative and Neo-Conservative operators?

[Plantagenet]

The highest named figure in this story is Marc Grossman, who supposedly spied for Turkey. And who connected Grossman and Turkey?

For Immediate Release September 12, 1994
PRESIDENT CLINTON NAMES MARC GROSSMAN
AS AMBASSADOR TO TURKEY
President Clinton today announced his intention to nominate Marc Grossman, of Virginia, a Career Member of the Senior Foreign Service, Class of Counselor, as Ambassador to the Republic of Turkey.

Marc Grossman most recently served as Special Assistant to Secretary of State Warren Christopher and as Executive Director of the Department of State

[threadbear]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Schadenfreude', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Schadenfreude', '
')
It's shameful.

Where is FOX NEWS now.

[Schadenfreude]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Schadenfreude', ' ')Why would the "liberal media" cover up a story about proliferation of American nuclear secrets by an international network of moles which includes the active participation of Conservative and Neo-Conservative operators?

[Schadenfreude]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', 'T')he highest named figure in this story is Marc Grossman, who supposedly spied for Turkey. And who connected Grossman and Turkey?

For Immediate Release September 12, 1994
PRESIDENT CLINTON NAMES MARC GROSSMAN
AS AMBASSADOR TO TURKEY
President Clinton today announced his intention to nominate Marc Grossman, of Virginia, a Career Member of the Senior Foreign Service, Class of Counselor, as Ambassador to the Republic of Turkey.

Marc Grossman most recently served as Special Assistant to Secretary of State Warren Christopher and as Executive Director of the Department of State

[shakespear1]

I find all this very interesting but I still have not managed to get my head around the following question.

Here we have high gov. employees. They know what NSA , FBI, CIA etc. can do in terms of eavesdropping. They are not worried discussing such stuff on phones or even with foreign gov. officials in person?

DC is not only observed by US special services don't forget. There are others fishing for something. Hence blackmail material galore for other gov. if these people were doing this.

The situation sounds insane

[Kismet]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('shakespear1', 'I') find all this very interesting but I still have not managed to get my head around the following question.

Here we have high gov. employees. They know what NSA , FBI, CIA etc. can do in terms of eavesdropping. They are not worried discussing such stuff on phones or even with foreign gov. officials in person?

DC is not only observed by US special services don't forget. There are others fishing for something. Hence blackmail material galore for other gov. if these people were doing this.

The situation sounds insane

[FreakOil]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('shakespear1', 'I') find all this very interesting but I still have not managed to get my head around the following question.

Here we have high gov. employees. They know what NSA , FBI, CIA etc. can do in terms of eavesdropping. They are not worried discussing such stuff on phones or even with foreign gov. officials in person?

DC is not only observed by US special services don't forget. There are others fishing for something. Hence blackmail material galore for other gov. if these people were doing this.

The situation sounds insane

[pedalling_faster]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('FreakOil', 'M')y guess is that a lot of people are getting hush-money and a lot of people are very worried about getting snuffed.

[Plantagenet]

The link above to Sibel Edmonds interview in the London Times didn't work for me. Here is the actual link:

Sibel Edmonds interviewed by London TImes

Sibel is very clear in this interview that the spy networks she describes were in operation from at least 1997 on, with key events happening in 2000.

Thats probably why this story only is being covered by the conservative Murdoch owned London Time and the conservation Buchanan magazine in the US.... IMHO, the MSM in the US won't touch the story because much of the malfeasance occurred during the Clinton Administration.

[Schadenfreude]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', 'T')he link above to Sibel Edmonds interview in the London Times didn't work for me. Here is the actual link:

Sibel Edmonds interviewed by London TImes

Sibel is very clear in this interview that the spy networks she describes were in operation from at least 1997 on, with key events happening in 2000.

Thats probably why this story only is being covered by the conservative Murdoch owned London Time and the conservation Buchanan magazine in the US.... IMHO, the MSM in the US won't touch the story because much of the malfeasance occurred during the Clinton Administration.

[Plantagenet]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Schadenfreude', '
')
Seems like real patriots would actively root out the evil

[threadbear]

More on Sibel Edmonds:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycd-H2k0nZI

[Plantagenet]

Thanks threadbare. That video was very interesting.

At least the London Times and the Bucanan magazine in the US have the guts to give Ms. Edmonds an opportunity to tell her story.

[Schadenfreude]

Sibel Edmonds Must be Heard - Phillip Giraldi Feb 4, '08

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'E')dmonds should also be listened to because she clearly had access to the documents that she describes and because she has proven that she is a credible witness. Two US Senators and the 9/11 Commission found her testimony and recollection of facts to be reliable, as did an FBI Inspector General's office internal investigation. More to the point, if Edmonds is telling the truth there are documents in FBI files that would confirm her account. What she is claiming, if it is all true, is fact-based, not speculative.

But the media remains silent in spite of considerable efforts to get them on board and provide some coverage of her very serious charges. Since the recent Sunday Times articles, her story has been brought to the attention of news editors at MSNBC's Keith Olbermann, to PBS's Bill Moyers, to The New York Times, The Washington Times, and to both ABC and CBS news in an attempt to arouse some interest. But there has been no response, not even a courteous "Thank you very much for contacting us...." What are so-called gadflies like Olbermann and Moyers afraid of? The suggestion that the media does not want to face the potential legal consequences of the gag order has been cited but lacks substance as much of the Sibel story is already out in public and the details of her allegations can be pieced together without actually interviewing her in violation of the state secrets privilege. Also, no one in the media has actually claimed that the lack of interest is based on the potential legal consequences. The silence has been deafening, suggesting that other forces are at work.

And it is not just the media. Congress has a responsibility to look into Edmonds' allegations. Congressman Henry Waxman of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee has been stonewalling Edmonds and her supporters, preferring instead to look into steroids use among professional athletes. To be sure, some in the media and Congress are undoubtedly nervous because the Edmond's story involves Israel and corrupt officials both in Washington and Tel Aviv. Many of the American former and current officials involved are considered to be particularly close to the Israeli government and to the Israeli lobby AIPAC. Others fear that FBI investigative reports or wiretaps revealing illegal contributions or bribery of congressmen could open up a can of worms that many would prefer to keep closed.

[peaker_2005]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Schadenfreude', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', 'T')he link above to Sibel Edmonds interview in the London Times didn't work for me. Here is the actual link:

Sibel Edmonds interviewed by London TImes

Sibel is very clear in this interview that the spy networks she describes were in operation from at least 1997 on, with key events happening in 2000.

Thats probably why this story only is being covered by the conservative Murdoch owned London Time and the conservation Buchanan magazine in the US.... IMHO, the MSM in the US won't touch the story because much of the malfeasance occurred during the Clinton Administration.

[Schadenfreude]

Scott Horton Interviews Former CIA Officer Phillip Giraldi About His American Conservative Article On Sibel Edmonds

Right click. Save. MP3 file.

Pretty good interview.

Giraldi says the Sibel Edmonds information links Richard Perle, Douglas Feith, Marc Grossman, AIPAC, the Israelis, the Turks, the Pakistanis, Larry Franklin, the Valerie Plame scandal, high level officials at the Pentagon and State Department, etc... to steal and offer for sale US nuclear and other weapons systems information.

It's a very interesting story... that no one wants to hear about!

[Schadenfreude]

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