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Re: No bread on the shelves
by steam_cannon » Fri 28 Dec 2007, 04:48:33
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('LoneSnark', 'W')here are you people shopping? Whole Wheat bread at Food Lion was $1.29 a loaf today. That is much higher than it was in 2001 when it sold for $0.99, but it certainly is not the $3.75 RedStateGreen is paying.
You really are young LoneSnark, where to begin... The $3.75 bread is probably a whole grain wheat bread with real butter and less preservatives to drive kids in circles. And that kind of bread always costs a little bit more, but it wasn't so much more last year. But hey, it seems you're not the only one who doesn't know how much prices have gone up...
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'G')iuliani Clueless on Milk and Bread Prices (April 11, 2007)
Republican presidential candidate Rudy Giuliani hasn’t done a lot of grocery shopping lately — at least based on his answers about the cost of milk and bread. Campaigning in Alabama on Tuesday, the former New York City mayor portrayed himself as a fiscal conservative and an aggressive fighter of terrorism who has a lot in common with the Deep South state.
But when asked about more mundane matters — like the price of some basic staples — Giuliani had trouble with a reporter’s question. “A gallon of milk is probably about a $1.50, a loaf of bread about a $1.25, $1.30,” he said.
A check of the Web site for D’Agostino supermarket on Manhattan’s Upper East Side showed a gallon of milk priced at $4.19 and a loaf of white bread at $2.99 to $3.39. In Montgomery, Ala., a gallon of milk goes for about $3.39 and bread is about $2.
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Re: No bread on the shelves
by steam_cannon » Fri 28 Dec 2007, 05:26:38
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('IslandCrow', 'I')n the community where I live (only 800 - 900 people 'year round' including all the outer islands) there is a small bakery. The price of bread has been the same for the last couple of years (€1.30). This price undercuts the store bread by about 20%.
I was just talking to the baker a couple of minutes ago and he has no plans to raise the price, as at the current price level he is already making a good profit (ie earning substantially more than I am earning).
Realizing that not many people would want to work the hours the baker does, I find it interesting that a small scale business catering for the locality can profitably undercut the large firms with their long lines of delivery. This is one case where small scale localization is financially viable.
The one drawback is that the bakery closes if he wants a holiday!
That's interesting that your local bakery is doing well. I was just talking to the baker a couple of minutes ago and he has no plans to raise the price, as at the current price level he is already making a good profit (ie earning substantially more than I am earning).
Realizing that not many people would want to work the hours the baker does, I find it interesting that a small scale business catering for the locality can profitably undercut the large firms with their long lines of delivery. This is one case where small scale localization is financially viable.
The one drawback is that the bakery closes if he wants a holiday!
Small bakeries may have advantages over large distributors. I worked in a small bakery some time ago and it was interesting, by the end of the day there was maybe a few barrels of scrap. But for a large food store, losses from bread may be much higher. Also I worked at a large bread factory once, making all those perfect loaves means piles of loaves overdone, stuck to pans, misshapen... And this factory scrap is tossed in piles to be discarded, which adds to cost.
But for bread sold in local bakeries, well if a loaf is little bigger on one side it's just artistic. And if bread in a local bakery is made just in time, there are less costs like preservatives and less losses from bread getting old and not selling. So sure, small bakeries may have an advantage which will probably become more obvious as prices go up.
The best deal I've seen for bread is French bread made at a bakery in a store I shop at. It went up from $1 to $1.60 It goes stale fast but relatively, but it's still a good deal.
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A few more articles:
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')b]Wheat costs raise bread prices again
December 14, 2007
Ball Park hot dogs and its namesake frozen pies, is raising bread prices in North America for the second time since September to counter higher wheat costs.
"We increased prices by 5 percent in September and we are doing it again at this moment," Sara Lee Chief Financial Officer Theo de Kool said Wednesday. He declined to say how much Sara Lee is raising prices this time.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/ ... 0564.story
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')b]Why is the price of bread important?
9 January 2007, 11:43 GMT
The price of bread could soon rise to £1 a loaf, bakers are warning. But why is the cost of bread so important?
...The public view bread as a general gauge for inflation...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/6240619.stm
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