[Bas]

Not sure what part to highlight, so here you go

[kadoomsoon]

The wikipedia write up keeps changing and now none of the key factors exist anymore. He was not named after a saint. This was invented afterwards to make it more religious and hide its origins.

[Bas]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('kadoomsoon', 'T')he wikipedia write up keeps changing and now none of the key factors exist anymore. He was not named after a saint. This was invented afterwards to make it more religious and hide its origins.

[Andrew_S]

Do you Dutchies have something like Knechtrupecht? I asked a Dutch mate, he said he didn't know (I somehow remember it from studying German).

Knechtruprecht beats the bad children and St. Niklaus gives presents to the good chlidren, as I remembered it. Maybe it isn't politically correct.

[Bas]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Andrew_S', 'D')o you Dutchies have something like Knechtrupecht? I asked a Dutch mate, he said he didn't know (I somehow remember it from studying German).

Knechtruprecht beats the bad children and St. Niklaus gives presents to the good chlidren, as I remembered it. Maybe it isn't politically correct.

[Andrew_S]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Bas', '
')we have "black" petes as the help of saint nicholas and if you are a bad boy you get slapped on the ass with a some bound together branches (the roe) and if you were really bad you go in the bag and are taken back where (according to dutch tradition) saint nicholas resides for the rest of the year.

[Bas]

taken back to Spain that is, somehow that was missing from my post. And no, no knecht Ruprecht, never heard of him/that.

[Andrew_S]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Bas', ' ')And no, no knecht Ruprecht, never heard of him/that.

[Andrew_S]

Well, this Knecht Ruprecht, it seems, is not merely a figment of my imagination:

Wikipedia on Companions of Santa

But the politically correct, close your ears and eyes (mouths would be too much to ask, I know) , 'cos:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')raditionally, Knecht Ruprecht would sometimes be portrayed as being Black African, like Zwarte Piet

[Bas]

oh yes, black pete is still allowed in holland...I did make jokes about it being politically incorrect in the past but I have never heard about such concerns in the national media/political scene...

[kadoomsoon]

Christmass came from pagan traditions, and accepted due to monetary incentive.

[kadoomsoon]

That is different from what you heard on wikipedia,

[AWPrime]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('kadoomsoon', 'C')hristmass came from pagan traditions, and accepted due to monetary incentive.

[kadoomsoon]

actually you wouldn't believe it anyway it is too out of the box.

[kadoomsoon]

Consumerism and selfishness is the problem
Peak oil will be the solution.

[AWPrime]

And the connection is Sinterklaas is what?

[kadoomsoon]

invented fable.

[AWPrime]

Sure.

Have you seen any demons lately?

[kadoomsoon]

It is unbelievable what people will believe in order not to believe.

[AWPrime]

You might want to add substance to your posts so that we can take you serious.