I wonder what he'll say regarding energy policy.
Might place a bet on how many times the word freedom will be used.
My guess? 25
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State of the Union speech.
State of the Union speech.
by stu » Wed 02 Feb 2005, 08:47:44
Anybody out there want to make any predictions as to what we can expect to hear from Dubya tonight?
I wonder what he'll say regarding energy policy.
Might place a bet on how many times the word freedom will be used.
My guess? 25
I wonder what he'll say regarding energy policy.
Might place a bet on how many times the word freedom will be used.
My guess? 25
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Re: State of the Union speech.
by Permanently_Baffled » Wed 02 Feb 2005, 08:56:02
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('stu', 'M')ight place a bet on how many times the word freedom will be used.
My guess? 25
My guess? 25
LOL
Come on it will be way more than that!!
I cannot see the point of these speeches, Bush never actually says anything of any substance.
It's always generalised rubbish about freedom , democracy , la la la la etc
Frustrating !
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Re: State of the Union speech.
by stu » Wed 02 Feb 2005, 10:07:07
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Permanently_Baffled', '
')I cannot see the point of these speeches, Bush never actually says anything of any substance.
It's always generalised rubbish about freedom , democracy , la la la la etc
')I cannot see the point of these speeches, Bush never actually says anything of any substance.
It's always generalised rubbish about freedom , democracy , la la la la etc
True.
It will be just another propaganda speech. I just love listening to what he says in case he drops any big hints about invading Iran or North Korea.
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by mindfarkk » Wed 02 Feb 2005, 10:10:38
it's an american tradition that has lost relevance to the same proportion that we have lost participants in the voting process, and for the same reason.
i won't watch it because i believe it's 100% smoke and mirrors and little if any actual useful information about his plans for the future.
i'm looking to 2008 because i think Bush and his croneys are starting to lose support from their Republican base, some of which is happening over his proposed changes to social security. they don't want to lose the power bloc in the next election. i'm hoping dean can catalyze the democratic party and that they can offer a candidate who can win the national vote.
i won't watch it because i believe it's 100% smoke and mirrors and little if any actual useful information about his plans for the future.
i'm looking to 2008 because i think Bush and his croneys are starting to lose support from their Republican base, some of which is happening over his proposed changes to social security. they don't want to lose the power bloc in the next election. i'm hoping dean can catalyze the democratic party and that they can offer a candidate who can win the national vote.
what, me worry?
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by Tyler_JC » Wed 02 Feb 2005, 16:57:17
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')'m hoping dean can catalyze the democratic party and that they can offer a candidate who can win the national vote.
Dean?
The reason the Democrats keep losing is people like Howard "The Scream" Dean. You need someone from the South who has some Conservative "Family Values." This can slow the bleeding in rural counties enough to allow city voters to win the day for the Dems.
The other option for a Democratic victory is a recession. Pick a Mid West Populist (Gephardt or someone like him) and play off everything as Bush's fault. Use your Midwesterner to get back blue-collar folks in Iowa, Ohio, and Missouri. This will balance out the possible loss of non-socialist suburbanites in places like Florida, and New Hampshire.
The only other option is a full blown attack on Florida and a hope that demographics won't change enough to make the Repubs pick up another Mid West state like Wisconsin or Michigan
But none of this matters if the GOP crucifies itself on the Social Security Cross. Fighting too hard for private accounts will turn off normally Conservative 50-year-olds who are worried about retiring with full benefits, knowing that they can't save enough money between now and retirement to make up the difference.
Peak Oil may change this, but assuming status quo for the next 4 years, that's the basic dogma.
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by Itch » Wed 02 Feb 2005, 16:58:03
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'i') won't watch it because i believe it's 100% smoke and mirrors and little if any actual useful information about his plans for the future.
This is mostly true, but I think speeches like this give out hints about what kind of criminal shit is about to be executed. Once you learn how to convert the bullshit language into English, it is much more clear.
If social security is mentioned, then the peasants will continue getting robbed at a faster pace. If freedom and democracy is mentioned, more foreign people will be killed pretty soon. If national security is mentioned, your chances of getting arrested and beaten will increase.
The only reason I won't be watching it is because there is more applause time than actual talking, much like how there is more commercial time than the actual program. One thing I'd like to see is a British-style show, where the speaker gets heckled heavily. From what I've seen, government people, and American citizens in general, do not like criticism of any kind, so everything turns out to be sterile and dull.
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