[Mahmoud]

The French people will know true peace when they know the true faith.

[Plantagenet]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Mahmoud', 'T')he French people will know true peace when they know the true faith.

[Arkwright]

I like this true stuff, classic propaganda trick. Say a true+anything and you get to redefine what you actually meant by it but most read it just as the original word. Its easy to think that preachers of "true peace" would want casual peace, and they arent too keen on telling about the differences.

Ever heard of anything that a True American does or doesnt do?

[americandream]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Mahmoud', 'T')he French people will know true peace when they know the true faith.

[Plantagenet]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('americandream', ' ')The objectives in due course were realised but with the passage of time are now eclipsed by the so-called war on terror.

And today, we live with the consequences of past economic imperatives.

[Plantagenet]

Riots get worse and spread

immigrant youth battle police

If Sarkozy is going to stop these riots from spreading, he's got to hit them hard now.

[Cynus]

Generally things like this get the far-right parties lots of ammunition. Can someone who knows French politics let me know if this is the case here? Is Sarkozy center-right or far-right?

[Mesuge]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Mahmoud', 'T')he French people will know true peace when they know the true faith.

[Plantagenet]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Mesuge', '
')Conveniently enough the rioters pop up every time the french elites needs urgent brake from other pressing issues, pff..

The same now, when the general strikes got momentum and proper media coverage, these nobodies-rioters suddenly steal the show..
Pretty staged-faked to me..

[mos6507]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', '
')So you think the French government is secretly behind the rioting?

[Tyler_JC]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mos6507', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', '
')So you think the French government is secretly behind the rioting?

[Plantagenet]

Another night of rioting and looting and arson by immigrant youth in their ghettos. Police say there are urban guerillas mixed in with the rioters


French youth are revolting

Maybe France should to integrate the Islamic youth, rather then segregating them into ghettos?

[Plantagenet]

"More than 100 officers have been wounded, several of them seriously, according to the police. Thirty were hit with buckshot and pellets from shotguns, and one of the wounded was hit with a type of bullet used to kill large game, Patrice Ribeiro, a police spokesman, said in a telephone interview. One of the officers lost an eye; another’s shoulder was shattered by gunfire.

It is legal to own a shotgun in France — as long as the owner has a license — ...

“This is a real guerrilla war,” Mr. Ribeiro told RTL radio, warning that the police, who have struggled to avoid excessive force, will not be fired upon indefinitely without responding.

The police have made more than 30 arrests but have been restrained in controlling the violence, using tear gas to disperse the bands of young people and firing paint balls to identify people for possible arrests later.

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There's the problem right there. The police should be have MORE firepower then the rioters, not less. Les flics should announce they are going to deploy snipers to take out any rioters who are using shotguns, and then do it in force. That would quell the riots quickly.

[Mesuge]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Tyler_JC', '
')I wonder if that's because the government is sending sleeper agents into our forum to discredit the issue and take control of the key Peak Oil information portals...

[DomusAlbion]

Perhaps it is time for France to re-institute the penal system exemplified by Devil's Island. Let these rioters vacation on a Caribbean island in 8 by 10 cells.

[Plantagenet]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Mesuge', ' ')a couple of provocateurs in that community might do a good job, always ready on the call..

[Mesuge]

Plantagenet>

You are kidding right? Do you have any idea, how many violent unreported clashes there are in these french city sections daily? Petty criminals, drug dealers versus police ? This accident most probably wasn't planted it was used/misused as opportunity.

Have you ever in your life seen/been in a mob in action? There are leaders and there are followers, from certain critical mass this is obviously a total uncontrolled chaos, but smaller groups within and/or individuals can still be controlled to a degree, shaping thus the overall outcome of the presumed group.

Readup on the various FOIAs, we know how this operates, you need only one planted/manipulated guy to throw the first torch/molotov's on the police car or a shop window to move the violence on a completely different level..

The recent best documented case is perhaps the Republican convention in NY City few years back were a couple of these faked violence inducers were 100% identified as current or former police/military/security contractor guys.

These tactics are old as one could go far in the history..

[Grifter]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('DomusAlbion', 'P')erhaps it is time for France to re-institute the penal system exemplified by Devil's Island. Let these rioters vacation on a Caribbean island in 8 by 10 cells.

[Cloud9]

There are always ego maniacs within states who think they can micromanage any situation. Take for instance the decision to send Lenin to Moscow.

[Denny]

If these riots are effectively squashed, I bet Sarkozy's popularity will go way up. Lets hope it does not result in deaths. I am sure we'll see many arrests to come.

You don't mess with cops. If the government does not show it can take control and punish the perps, you'll see respect for the police and the government in general go way down. Just as we see here in Ontario, Canada with the Indian uprising at Caledonia.