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Barrons on Peak Oil

Unread postby Aaron » Tue 06 Nov 2007, 14:11:24

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')n 1930 we found 10 billion new barrels of oil in the world and we used 1.5 billion. We reached a peak in 1964 when we found 48 billion barrels and used approximately 12 billion. In 1988, we found 23 billion barrels and used 23 billion barrels. That was the crossover when we started finding less than we were using. In 2005, we found about 5 billion to 6 billion and we used 30 billion.

These numbers are just overwhelming.


http://www.1031energy.com/Barrons-predi ... prices.php
The problem is, of course, that not only is economics bankrupt, but it has always been nothing more than politics in disguise... economics is a form of brain damage.

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Re: Barrons on Peak Oil

Unread postby cube » Tue 06 Nov 2007, 21:17:26

15 years ago if you mentioned this fact to a PO skeptic, (we consume more oil then we're discovering) their usual response would be:

"From a business point, why waste money discovering more oil when we have so much in excess reserve?"

That may have made sense 15 years ago but fast forward to the present, that argument doesn't hold water anymore. Too bad for the PO skeptics. That was (past tense) actually one of their STRONGEST arguments against PO.
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I've noticed that PO skeptics have decided to retreat their previous positions and now admit that PO is the TRUTH.

However their new argument now is to claim PO will be a benign event with a painless transition to renewables......... ha ha ha
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Re: Barrons on Peak Oil

Unread postby Duende » Tue 06 Nov 2007, 22:33:49

Very interesting article. In my mind it paints a picture of how things are likely to play out. I'll pull a snippet from the article to illustrate my point:

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')Q: What about a peak in gas production?

A: That's much, much further out. There is a lot of what they call stranded natural gas, big discoveries that are not tied to any local needs, or any local distribution system, and they will be tapped and brought in, in liquefied form to our country and to Europe and to Asia. The peak of natural gas now roughly looks like it will be in 2035 to 2040. There is a finite supply that is being drawn down, but it hasn't been exploited nearly as much as oil. The run-up in natural gas prices in the past year or so was because production in this country has peaked, and natural gas is more expensive and difficult to move from one continent to another, and we don't really have the means to do that yet. We are getting there and the big liquefied natural gas expansion is starting, and soon we are going to have interchangeability between continents. When one continent is short we can move gas there, which will keep prices down.


So, my crystal ball says:
1. Oil gets really expensive in the near term, as supply cannot reach demand.
2. Corn production continues to grow (as do subsidies for corn production).
3. Natural gas production really intensifies in the middle of nowhere, as giant LNG boats are produced which can carry the stuff back here.
4. Natural gas is used to produce the corn ethanol, which is hailed (at least initially) as our saving grace.

So, I can't help but think that Maxwell's point is that natural gas will be THE answer to softening the fall after the oil peak hits. Between it and tar sands, anyway.

Granted the cost of energy will rise, the environment will continue to go to hell, but it gives a certain relief I must admit that we won't run into physical energy restraints so soon. Soccer moms rejoice!
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Re: Barrons on Peak Oil

Unread postby kublikhan » Wed 07 Nov 2007, 19:20:00

Interesting read. He seems to think that the current tightness in the oil supply is not because we already peaked, but rather caused by the ineptitude of national oil companies. He predicts the worldwide oil peak as 2015-2020, depending on how much conservation the world does. And natural gas peak around 20 years later at 2035-2040. Sounds like we still have some time to adjust.

I didn't see him mention coal though. I think coal is going to grow in importance as oil shrinks in availability. Woe to the environment when that happens.
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